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8 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

It appears that a new GM's only move is to take the risk of bad optics in the future and trade Maxey this summer if you can get a good package. Just for the flexibility to be able to add some useful players and additional draft picks. Of course his new coach will still be saddled with George and Embiid... but he can try to shake things up and add more picks for the rebuild with VJ.

After next season you have to make both Embiid, and PG available in the expansion draft, but even then, I doubt either expansion team bites.

How the sixers handle the Maxey situation is going to be fascinating. Believe he’s back next year but really the time issue begins after 2026-27. At that point he has 2 years left on his extension. I don’t think he’d publicly ever ask to be traded but if the Sixers are in the same spot (very likely) could see him begin to doubt winning a title here or constructing a roster that can. More value with 2 years left than with 1. So if the Sixers and Maxey play the 2027-28 season, he’s now down to a contract year.

If he doesn’t sign an extension before that year then the Sixers have a massive decision. Either trade him then so you get value for him or let him play it out and hope he re-signs in the offseason. Dangerous game to let it play out cause he could walk away at the end of the year and end up with nothing. Granted Embiid and PG’s deals are also finished by that point. But realistically VJ needs his rookie extension then and if he walks there’s really nothing notable on the roster besides VJ. So essentially a rebuild with him on his rookie extension. So next 3-4 years is VJ in a rebuild and hoping they do it fast so when he gets to the last year of his contract he wants to stay.

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16 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Based on reading the article not sure how they bring nurse back. Apparently the relationship between players and the coaching staff was pretty tense and came to a head in the beginning of April and was pretty contentious.

they need a coach willing to give young guy minutes to develop them. that’s the only way to build depth with this roster / salary configuration. with this version of Joel, they’re no longer a win now team.

5 minutes ago, mr_hunt said:

they need a coach willing to give young guy minutes to develop them. that’s the only way to build depth with this roster / salary configuration. with this version of Joel, they’re no longer a win now team.

Yup nurse is not that guy. McCain is partially not here cause nurse didn’t build up his minutes coming back from the injury and eventually give him consistent minutes to get him into a rhythm. Instead he just began overplaying guys in the regular season and eventually even more in the postseason.

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24 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

How the sixers handle the Maxey situation is going to be fascinating. Believe he’s back next year but really the time issue begins after 2026-27. At that point he has 2 years left on his extension. I don’t think he’d publicly ever ask to be traded but if the Sixers are in the same spot (very likely) could see him begin to doubt winning a title here or constructing a roster that can. More value with 2 years left than with 1. So if the Sixers and Maxey play the 2027-28 season, he’s now down to a contract year.

If he doesn’t sign an extension before that year then the Sixers have a massive decision. Either trade him then so you get value for him or let him play it out and hope he re-signs in the offseason. Dangerous game to let it play out cause he could walk away at the end of the year and end up with nothing. Granted Embiid and PG’s deals are also finished by that point. But realistically VJ needs his rookie extension then and if he walks there’s really nothing notable on the roster besides VJ. So essentially a rebuild with him on his rookie extension. So next 3-4 years is VJ in a rebuild and hoping they do it fast so when he gets to the last year of his contract he wants to stay.

I'm also a little weary of talking about a rebuild with VJ. We have no idea what he will become yet.

He shot the ball better than anyone expected but he was a raw offensive prospect who still very much is.

He hit a ton of open stand still 3. its as easy as it gets for a shooter. Despite a nice percentage, he has a long way to go developing as a shooter if youre talking about a star player as a top 1 or 2 option on a team. His release is still extremely slow.

He needs to work on hitting them off screens, on the move, off the dribble, etc.

Not to mention his handle....

It may be what we have to do, but he hasn't truly earned that optimism yet. We have to see how he develops next year. For all we know, he can quickly plateau.

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PG has 2 years left on his deal…man, I’d love to see him gone. If morey can flip pg for a couple depth pieces, he can stay.

7 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

I'm also a little weary of talking about a rebuild with VJ. We have no idea what he will become yet.

He shot the ball better than anyone expected but he was a raw offensive prospect who still very much is.

He hit a ton of open stand still 3. its as easy as it gets for a shooter. Despite a nice percentage, he has a long way to go developing as a shooter if youre talking about a star player as a top 1 or 2 option on a team. His release is still extremely slow.

He needs to work on hitting them off screens, on the move, off the dribble, etc.

Not to mention his handle....

It may be what we have to do, but he hasn't truly earned that optimism yet. We have to see how he develops next year. For all we know, he can quickly plateau.

I don’t disagree with you. I kind of think they’re gonna wind up potentially getting forced into that. Cause I can see Maxey after next year saying we are stuck due to PG and Embiid’s contracts and can’t make the moves to make this roster a championship type contender. (Plus an owner actively trying to duck the tax doesn’t help). Can’t really do much until another 2 years when Embiid’s contract is over. with two years left on maxey’s contract sixers better make sure he is gonna be here after those two years. Because if he’s not or lukewarm about his future here then at that point you should be thinking about trading him to maximize his value so you don’t get nothing if he just walks away.

That said we had a discussion back in 2022, where we discussed Maxey’s timeline doesn’t match up with Embiid. Either had to go all in on Joel Embiid‘s remaining peak years by trading Maxey getting him another star (before the bad harden trade) or trade Joel Embiid and start going to a youth movement and another direction. The Sixers unfortunately thought they could mesh the two timelines. But this is playing out similarly to the way I kind thought. That you’re gonna try to mesh the two timelines, but when Embiid started to decline and isn’t great anymore, and Maxey starts reaching his potential you’re going to be stuck in no man’s land (frankly instead of trading simmons for harden they should’ve been trying to get younger and build around Maxey and a young core. Chose harden which hurt this even more as it delayed trading Embiid at his peak value as an mvp candidate). as have contracts you can’t easily move (embiid and also add PG since that discussion) and will cost you assets that you need to build for the future. The Sixers will still be competitive enough to be a fringe playoff team meshing the two time lines when Embiid declined, you’d ultimately land in a purgatory.

Gotta hope Maxey doesn’t ask to be traded, extends after 2027-28 season and allows you time to eventually rectify the issue. Unfortunately i think 3 years is a long time for Maxey to wait to have a better solution and it is essentially his prime years. I think this ultimately ends with a complete rebuild

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gotta lol at embiid’s post game comments saying this season was a success because his knee issues were minimal. dude missed 44 games & somehow picked up 2 new injuries since returning from the appendectomy. roll but the knees…

1 minute ago, mr_hunt said:

gotta lol at embiid’s post game comments saying this season was a success because his knee issues were minimal. dude missed 44 games & somehow picked up 2 new injuries since returning from the appendectomy. roll but the knees…

In fairness it is a success for him… He doesn’t have to retire and can collect his $190ish mil lol 

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Harris probably loves Morey. He kept them under the tax, as instructed.

Damn Morey is staying

And the hits keep coming. That would basically render our pick and swap with clips to be worse

10 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

And the hits keep coming. That would basically render our pick and swap with clips to be worse

Never got too excited about that pick to begin with. Its an LA team. Players want to be there, and the Clippers in recent years have actually attempted to be relevant so always assumed they might be improved by then.

On a similar note though, Ive seen fans float maxey for a top 4 pick in this draft (plus more). Im not ready to be off the Maxey train yet. But, realizing thats about the only thing they can do to try to rebuild this trash roster, I dont hate it.

2 hours ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I have no idea what any of that means.

2 hours ago, HazletonEagle said:

Never got too excited about that pick to begin with. Its an LA team. Players want to be there, and the Clippers in recent years have actually attempted to be relevant so always assumed they might be improved by then.

On a similar note though, Ive seen fans float maxey for a top 4 pick in this draft (plus more). Im not ready to be off the Maxey train yet. But, realizing thats about the only thing they can do to try to rebuild this trash roster, I dont hate it.

My feeling is because of Embiid’s contract and PG’s along with Harris as the owner that we are going to be unable to construct a better roster. So wind up going into the final year of maxey’s contract in 2028-29 with him undecided on whether to extend here. At that point going to be a tough decision to play out the contract and hope he re-signs here in FA or trade him prior to the season and cash out. Frankly i think you get less at that time as opposed to doing it sooner where he has multiple years left on his contract

A dynasty ?!? 😂

They can't stop talking about Mccain during this lakers vs okc series Everytime he is on the floor that's all they talk about.

7 hours ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

My feeling is because of Embiid’s contract and PG’s along with Harris as the owner that we are going to be unable to construct a better roster. So wind up going into the final year of maxey’s contract in 2028-29 with him undecided on whether to extend here. At that point going to be a tough decision to play out the contract and hope he re-signs here in FA or trade him prior to the season and cash out. Frankly i think you get less at that time as opposed to doing it sooner where he has multiple years left on his contract

Sixers need to find a way to trade Paul George.

Two years left on his contract at $54mil and $56mil.

Tear it down. Get younger.

Do not trade Maxey or VJ.

7 hours ago, no1birdsfan said:

A dynasty ?!? 😂

Wouldn’t have used that word. But he’s right in the aspect they had a ton of assets and and they should’ve been significantly better off than what they were if it wasn’t for a bad owner and GMs pissing away assets of draft picks and cap space

1 hour ago, CouchKing said:

Sixers need to find a way to trade Paul George.

Two years left on his contract at $54mil and $56mil.

Tear it down. Get younger.

Do not trade Maxey or VJ.

PG more realistic to trade but still difficult. Frankly probably can do it but you’d be taking back 2 contracts to match which are likely 2 bad contracts. Fine doing it as long as you don’t get 2 contracts longer than 2 years. Once you go over that then might as well keep PG as he only has 2 left. 

Warriors are interesting team cause i believe butler is out til at least december/January. They want to upgrade the roster and he’s an expiring contract. Hard time believing they’d deal butler for PG but at least if you did that you’d get out of the money at the end of 2026-27. That said very unlikely and his expiring contract along with 11 probably could get them a solid piece. Still not winning crap at this point with that roster

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