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EMB Blog: 2023 Camps and Preseason - NO POLITICS

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Just now, NCiggles said:

I always bet on the team with the prettiest helmets. 

Betting against the Browns is very profitable

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1 hour ago, NCiggles said:

Rear Window is still my favorite and also has Gracy Kelly.  I am assuming you're not a Kim Novak fan. 

Compared to Grace Kelly, no. Grace Kelly was the definition of elite.

2 hours ago, ToastJenkins said:

Cool story

 

Also happens to be true one.  

1 hour ago, NCiggles said:

So a valid reason is one that is factually true and has a logical connection to avoid the vaccine.   For example, a valid reason to wear bring an umbrella with you to work is that there is a 90% chance of rain when you leave work.  A valid reason to not bring an umbrella to work is that there is a 10% chance of rain.  An invalid reason to bring an umbrella to work is that you believe your umbrella is magical and wards off evil spirits. An invalid reason to not bring an umbrella to work is that eventhough there's a 90% chance of rain, last Monday there was a 50% chance of rain and it didn't rain.  

In summary the reasonable reasons for not getting a vaccine are:

1) It's too political - I am not sure what that means.   I would agree that the vaccine was politicized by people.  While that is true, it doe not make it a reaons to not get the vaccine.    While someone could have a valid religious reason, (e.g. if I take any vaccines my God says I will burn in hell) politics aren't religion.  My personal politics dictate that I don't take a vaccine seems not rooted in any true political outcome unless the outcome isn't related to having a health political constituency.  

2) The Pharmaceutical companies made billions - OK how does differentiate this vaccine from any other medication or vaccine? I am not sure how it connects as a reason to refuse it. If there was a monetary cost and you didn't want to pay it, I could understand.  There wasn't a cost. 

3) Politicians were misleading about the efficacy -  "If you get the shot, you won't get COVID" - I do not think this was ever the case. It certainly was not what Dr. Fauci or the CDC stated publically.   I do not recall anyone saying anything other than the vaccine was effective and the best chance to prevent the spread.  The Pfizer was shown to be effective at 95% rate in initial tests.  Moderna was similar.  They had no data on the durability of the effect.  In terms of waiting for more data, I am sure there will be more data but there's been 100's of millions of doses of the vaccines at this point.  There is overwhelming data.  So while it's true there may be more later, it's true that if someone is making a factual decision about the vaccine the data overwhelmingly supports getting it.  The risks of getting Covid while unvaccinated far outweigh the risks of the vaccine. 

 

4) Some people are healthy and are more concerned with the unknown of what the vaccine could potentially do to them than getting covid itself. There have been multiple people on here already stating the fact of what the vaccine has done to them and in hindsight wouldn't have taken it if they knew what they know now. 

Doesn't having the vaccine make the symptoms mild? So why would someone that has the vaccine be concerned with someone that hasn't taken it? I assume you're not pro choice then? (Stirs the pot more)

2 hours ago, BDawk_ASamuel said:

If I'm a 25 year old healthy person in shape with no co-morbidities and saw that under 7,000 people in my age cohort have died from COVID in the past 3+ years (0.6% of total deaths), should I be ridiculed for not getting vaccinated?

Yes bc you contributed to the spread

14 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

Yes bc you contributed to the spread

So no one who was vaccinated contributed to the spread? 
 

If the vaccine really was a silver bullet in stopping the transmission of the virus, I’d agree in shaming those who chose not to get it. But we all know now that isn’t the case. 

1 hour ago, FranklinFldEBUpper said:

Compared to Grace Kelly, no. Grace Kelly was the definition of elite.

Thoughts on Vera Ellen?  Did she have ribs removed?  Her waist and legs always drove me wild in White Christmas. 

Less than 30 days until the players report to camp cupcake.  

11 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

Yes bc you contributed to the spread

 

Vaccinated people also contributed to the spread.  Delta variant made it glaringly obvious how completely ineffective the vaccine was to preventing the spread. 

9 minutes ago, BDawk_ASamuel said:

So no one who was vaccinated contributed to the spread? 

The vaccination doesn’t make you immune to COVID. It reduces symptoms and shortens sickness length. The vaccination does not prevent you from being contagious to others, it reduces your contagiousness due to shortening the period of time you have the disease

13 minutes ago, BDawk_ASamuel said:

So no one who was vaccinated contributed to the spread? 
 

If the vaccine really was a silver bullet in stopping the transmission of the virus, I’d agree in shaming those who chose not to get it. But we all know now that isn’t the case. 

Not what i said so spare me the strawman

its all relative risk. You increased the risk. Your right to make that choice but just own it

3 minutes ago, Aerolithe_Lion said:

The vaccination doesn’t make you immune to COVID. It reduces symptoms and shortens sickness length. The vaccination does not prevent you from being contagious to others, it reduces your contagiousness due to shortening the period of time you have the disease

Agreed. So based off of that, why should someone who got vaccinated care if someone else chose not to get it? 

4 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

Not what i said so spare me the strawman

its all relative risk. You increased the risk. Your right to make that choice but just own it

I’m vaccinated. What is my statistical risk of getting COVID standing next to someone who has it two days in with symptoms who is vaccinated versus not vaccinated? 

7 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

Less than 30 days until the players report to camp cupcake.  

Josh Sweat is entering the last year on his deal, Reddick will want more money after this year as well. Not sure they can afford both with other extensions looming... Very curious to see what they do with this situation.

3 hours ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

Vaccinated people also contributed to the spread.  Delta variant made it glaringly obvious how completely ineffective the vaccine was to preventing the spread. 

On a cartesian plane that plots arrogance versus ignorance, you are upper first quadrant.

Vaccines don't need to entirely prevent the disease to stem transmission. COVID is an airborne transmission. If transmissibility is decreased but not eliminated it changes the person-to-person transmission probability even if the R0 changes significantly from one variant to another -- as it did from the wild variant to omicron. This will decrease but not eliminate spread. The vaccine or immunity from having the virus accomplish the same result in this regard in terms of T and B cell memory. The vaccine's effectiveness does change with variant and this changes spread probability, however, the stated strategy is to try and annually target COVID variants as is done with the flue vaccine. Since COVID-19 is in the rhinovirus family and our immune systems have evolutionarily been exposed to many such common cold/respiratory viruses, the recombination processes for T and B cells to "remember" COVID is less "sticky" than more unique viruses like polio. 

Yes, vaccinated people spread COVID. Vaccinations do not stop COVID spread 100%. Vaccinations do, however, modulate the spread of COVID because they decrease the R0 between vaccinated people versus those who have had no exposure to the virus. 

Peddle your "I did my own research" conspiracy theory nonsense someplace like 4chan if you want to find like-minded idiocy. 

2 minutes ago, greendestiny27 said:

Josh Sweat is entering the last year on his deal, Reddick will want more money after this year as well. Not sure they can afford both with other extensions looming... Very curious to see what they do with this situation.

Isn’t Sweat signed through 2024? 

Just now, greendestiny27 said:

Josh Sweat is entering the last year on his deal, Reddick will want more money after this year as well. Not sure they can afford both with other extensions looming... Very curious to see what they do with this situation.

Josh Sweat for sure.  He just turned 26. Nolan Smith is primed to take over for Reddick.  The Eagles have NOTHING at DE behind Sweat.  He's your guy and you keep him.

 

As much as I rag on Reub for his takes, this was part of his 10 Observations today.

Sweat, who turned 26 in March, had 28 ½ sacks before his 26th birthday. Only Clyde Simmons (31 ½) and Reggie White (31) have had more in Eagles history. With just seven more sacks, Sweat would pass Jerome Brown (29 ½), Vinny Curry (30), Juqua Parker (31 ½), Mike Mamula (31 ½), Connor Barwin (31 ½), Corey Simon (32), Kenny Clarke (32 ½), William Thomas (33) and Dennis Harrison (34) and match William Fuller (35 ½) in the No. 10 spot in franchise history.

1 minute ago, greendestiny27 said:

Josh Sweat is entering the last year on his deal, Reddick will want more money after this year as well. Not sure they can afford both with other extensions looming... Very curious to see what they do with this situation.

 

If Nolan Smith looks like the real deal and both Sweat and Reddick are looking for big market setting deals next year then you figure out which one makes more sense going forward knowing new deals will be needed for hopefully at least 2 of the 3 of AJ Brown, Goedert and DeVonta coming down the pipeline.  

 

If Smith doesn't look like the next thing then you hold onto them both for the season and see if you can buy yourself another year to figure things out and hope neither holds out.  

 

8 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

If Nolan Smith looks like the real deal and both Sweat and Reddick are looking for big market setting deals next year then you figure out which one makes more sense going forward knowing new deals will be needed for hopefully at least 2 of the 3 of AJ Brown, Goedert and DeVonta coming down the pipeline.  

 

If Smith doesn't look like the next thing then you hold onto them both for the season and see if you can buy yourself another year to figure things out and hope neither holds out.  

 

I'm so excited to see what Smith turns in to.  Everything about him since he's been drafted just gives off BDawk vibes.

8 minutes ago, BDawk_ASamuel said:

Isn’t Sweat signed through 2024? 

 

Yep.  It would make sense for the Eagles to do a new deal though just to lower the cap hit, besides the fact that Sweat has developed into a great young player at a premium position. 

 

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/philadelphia-eagles/josh-sweat-25231/#:~:text=Current Contract&text=In 2023%2C Sweat will earn,dead cap value of %2419%2C042%2C000.

8 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

If Nolan Smith looks like the real deal and both Sweat and Reddick are looking for big market setting deals next year then you figure out which one makes more sense going forward knowing new deals will be needed for hopefully at least 2 of the 3 of AJ Brown, Goedert and DeVonta coming down the pipeline.  

 

If Smith doesn't look like the next thing then you hold onto them both for the season and see if you can buy yourself another year to figure things out and hope neither holds out.  

 

Dickerson as well. He’s on pace for top tier OG money. 

12 minutes ago, BDawk_ASamuel said:

Isn’t Sweat signed through 2024? 

Think I read it wrong. He is under contract in 2024 and over the cap says he has a 9 mil cap hit, but spotrac has him with a 18.7 mil cap hit. Reddick also has a 20 mil cap hit in 2024. If spotrac is correct, not sure if they kick the can on both guys or choose one and then draft a DE high to allocate the saved money elsewhere. If over the cap is right then I don't see as big a problem at the end of 2023. But regarding Reddick, a decision will have to be made on whether an extension or maybe trade. He may want to hold out the final year if he has another all pro season. If that is the case and you don't want to pay the mega deal then I'd think trade is the next option.

1 minute ago, BDawk_ASamuel said:

Dickerson as well. He’s on pace for top tier OG money. 

This is why I'm on board to get another top WR in the draft next year. If there's anyway that Marvin Harrison Jr. is in sniffing distance, get him.  I can't see the hanging on to both Brown and Smith at top 10 WR salaries.  As good as Brown is, you might have to move him before his deal turns in to $40 mil/year. Smith is my WR1 for this team. 

Dickerson is a must. Mailata is going to need an extension too. Milton Williams too.  

Just now, bpac55 said:

I'm so excited to see what Smith turns in to.  Everything about him since he's been drafted just gives off BDawk vibes.

 

I'm also excited but trying not to be because I got really hyped last summer to watch Nakobe Dean and then he hardly played as a rookie.  Smith should get some more opportunities giving Reddick some rest every now and then than what Dean had when they were only playing their starting LBs last year.  

2 hours ago, RLC said:

You would think legalized gambling would improve the general public's understanding of probabilities, but alas no.

I suspect the casinos and online betting companies prefer the general public not have a good understanding of odds and probabilities.

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