48 minutes ago, justwinbaby said:

He not show up? Someone would have to record this if it did happen. 

I was nowhere near Philly but I doubt he would have showed. To be honest, I probably wouldn’t have either… I’m not looking to meet any of you clowns on here, let alone fight one in front of his kid 

So i missed a lot on this thread the past couple days but here you guys go 

 

8 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

So i missed a lot on this thread the past couple days but here you guys go 

 

Gonna be hard to justify a 12:00am start time on the east coast on a Sunday

4 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Gonna be hard to justify a 12:00am start time on the east coast on a Sunday

3 hours ago, mattwill said:

You can’t list a single good reason.  There definitely are reasons, but none of them are good.

When my daughter (adult) got the initial booster (Pfizer) she felt miserable for almost a week and pretty much stayed in bed. For me, the symptoms of covid weren't nearly that severe. Do the math.

Despite the annual deaths worldwide, nobody seems to be stigmatizing the people that opt out of getting an annual flu shot. Strange ...

Some people have a significant degree of trypanophobia.

Some people will be allergic to certain covid vaccines. 

Even after all this time, and after so many people worldwide have had some type of covid vaccine or another and we're told everything is so great and all the risks are so minimal, why is virtually everything still EUA instead of FDA approved? 

 

 

I mean ... if you're waiting for me to say it's a political decision or something, that's just silly. Vaccinations aren't "political." There are no major party stances on getting a vaccination or not. Religion? While I'm sure there are plenty of religions I know little about, I doubt most are against getting vaccinated. Those that are are more likely cults than anything else. But there are people that decided to not get the shots. Who are you to tell them their reason isn't good?

 

18 minutes ago, brkmsn said:

When my daughter (adult) got the initial booster (Pfizer) she felt miserable for almost a week and pretty much stayed in bed. For me, the symptoms of covid weren't nearly that severe. Do the math.

Despite the annual deaths worldwide, nobody seems to be stigmatizing the people that opt out of getting an annual flu shot. Strange ...

Some people have a significant degree of trypanophobia.

Some people will be allergic to certain covid vaccines. 

Even after all this time, and after so many people worldwide have had some type of covid vaccine or another and we're told everything is so great and all the risks are so minimal, why is virtually everything still EUA instead of FDA approved? 

 

 

I mean ... if you're waiting for me to say it's a political decision or something, that's just silly. Vaccinations aren't "political." There are no major party stances on getting a vaccination or not. Religion? While I'm sure there are plenty of religions I know little about, I doubt most are against getting vaccinated. Those that are are more likely cults than anything else. But there are people that decided to not get the shots. Who are you to tell them their reason isn't good?

 

I think you are leaving out the fact that the modern anti-vax movement is predicated on fraudulent scientific research that linked vaccines to autism. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2831678/

All of these "results" were proven to be a fraud but the genie was out of the bottle and the credibility of the immunology community has never fully recovered. It is very true that vaccines occupy part of each person's immune repertoire, a cluster of cells will be taken offline from being novel to being reproduced for the pathogen that the vaccine mimics, and that this decreases the number of "free" soldiers ready to fight off other pathogens. Vaccines reduce the diversity of the immune repertoire. But, this is just a tradeoff and is not very different from being exposed to the pathogen itself except without the symptoms, for the most part. Personally, I would rather have the polio vaccine than polio. Or measles, mumps, smallpox, meningitis, and so on. The COVID vaccines also mitigate symptoms and make it less life threatening. It is a personal choice but it has become politicized and is an unhealthy consequence of identity politics. 

Very reasonable response.  I have embedded some thoughts below in bold

2 hours ago, brkmsn said:

When my daughter (adult) got the initial booster (Pfizer) she felt miserable for almost a week and pretty much stayed in bed. For me, the symptoms of covid weren't nearly that severe. Do the math. Her making a decision not to have a second shot makes sense.  No one has ever said there is no risk, but there is a greater good to be achieved … genetically mitigating the probability of additional mutations happen.  There is considerably greater risk of "feeling miserable” driving your automobile, but that doesn’t stop us from doing it.

Despite the annual deaths worldwide, nobody seems to be stigmatizing the people that opt out of getting an annual flu shot. Strange ... The number of deaths is statistically minimal, and a very clear recurring annual life cycle of the flu makes it very predictable.  COVID was the opposite of predictable.  That uncertainty is the answer to your question.

Some people have a significant degree of trypanophobia. FDR said it best

Some people will be allergic to certain covid vaccines. Again statistically minimal, and I doubt anyone gives a person with a documented allergy any grief.  The first question I get from Kaiser is about allergies.

Even after all this time, and after so many people worldwide have had some type of covid vaccine or another and we're told everything is so great and all the risks are so minimal, why is virtually everything still EUA instead of FDA approved? There is a very simple answer to that. There hasn’t been a single vaccine, but rather a series of unique and different vaccines developed to address the long series of variants that have mutated and spread.  Each vaccine matched to a variant is starting the approval process at ground zero.  It is a constantly evolving process.

I mean ... if you're waiting for me to say it's a political decision or something, that's just silly. Vaccinations aren't "political." There are no major party stances on getting a vaccination or not. Religion? While I'm sure there are plenty of religions I know little about, I doubt most are against getting vaccinated. Those that are are more likely cults than anything else. But there are people that decided to not get the shots. Who are you to tell them their reason isn't good? I’m not telling them their reason is no good, I’m telling you that their reasons are mostly based on personal feelings rather than public health principles.

 

 

Can we start the season already?

Came in to check and see what's going on with the Eagles......thought I was in CVON....

6 hours ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

So i missed a lot on this thread the past couple days but here you guys go 

 

 

 

13 hours ago, Alphagrand said:

You're talking about a contagious and deadly virus that spread by person-to-person contact, and people only caring about what "they felt was best for themselves" -- rather than the greater interest of public health and safety -- is what killed an excessive number of people.   

I would argue that just as many, or more, died due to poor life choices that led to them being obese and having a slew of other health issues which put them at a much higher risk of serious illness when contracting Covid.

7 hours ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Read that Ringo hasn't signed a contract yet. Is there a reason for this? 

6 hours ago, Next_Up said:

I think you are leaving out the fact that the modern anti-vax movement is predicated on fraudulent scientific research that linked vaccines to autism. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2831678/

All of these "results" were proven to be a fraud but the genie was out of the bottle and the credibility of the immunology community has never fully recovered. It is very true that vaccines occupy part of each person's immune repertoire, a cluster of cells will be taken offline from being novel to being reproduced for the pathogen that the vaccine mimics, and that this decreases the number of "free" soldiers ready to fight off other pathogens. Vaccines reduce the diversity of the immune repertoire. But, this is just a tradeoff and is not very different from being exposed to the pathogen itself except without the symptoms, for the most part. Personally, I would rather have the polio vaccine than polio. Or measles, mumps, smallpox, meningitis, and so on. The COVID vaccines also mitigate symptoms and make it less life threatening. It is a personal choice but it has become politicized and is an unhealthy consequence of identity politics. 

I didn't list conspiracies as good reasons. 

As for things like measles, mumps, polio, etc. Those vaccines pretty much ensure the person will never get the disease. They are effective at preventing, which in turn, prevents spreading them as well. Most people that in the covid debate are labeled "anti-vaxer" are not anti-vax at all. They just don't view these covid shots as true vaccinations.

3 hours ago, mattwill said:

Very reasonable response.  I have embedded some thoughts below in bold

 

I'm not sure if it's just my browser, but people that quote responses like this makes it very hard to follow. The so-called "bolded parts" are not showing up in bold if we try to add bold to a quoted reply. Check and see if it's showing up for you. Then when we want to quote that person we can't easily because the software thinks that was another person's quote (in this case mine). so take a look and see if anything looks bold to you. You may have to adjust how you reply to others. 

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 Her making a decision not to have a second shot makes sense.  No one has ever said there is no risk, but there is a greater good to be achieved … genetically mitigating the probability of additional mutations happen.  There is considerably greater risk of "feeling miserable” driving your automobile, but that doesn’t stop us from doing it.

It's a little too late for her to change that decision. For the record, she still went on to get the next booster later. She took some other stuff to attempt to mitigate the side effects.

I'm not drawing a connection between driving, though. If you are implying accidents, well, I guess people can walk where they need to go, but pedestrians get run over too. They can ride a bus or train, but they have accidents too (and you still have to get there safely). In a car, you are less likely to get mugged, assaulted, or attacked by an animal. So, it appears the risk of going from point A to point B in essence remains the same.

 

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The number of deaths is statistically minimal

The Flu kills over 400,000 people a year around the world (about 1/10 of that here in the US).

In sadder NFL news, Ryan Mallett died yesterday - it seems he drowned in Florida while on holiday with his girlfriend.

8 hours ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

So i missed a lot on this thread the past couple days but here you guys go 

 

 

 

That's silly.  Just do a big Saturday Night Basketball game.

15 hours ago, justwinbaby said:

It applies to you as well. No one can have a differing opinion than yours or you look down on them and you mock them. You're narrow minded. People should be able to make decisions that they feel is best for themselves without others belittling them. But you'll continue doing what you do because well... you have a superiority complex.

And how did you know I have a face only a mother could love...? The cougars do love me though

If you think I feel superior to you, that's on you. Also the Cougars only want you for your massive dick. 

 

14 hours ago, brkmsn said:

 

Since this all started with Wentz, perhaps someone can tell me what he did when he had covid and also tell me how many people he infected to deserve such ire. 

He behaved like a spoiled child after the Eagles won without him.  He kept trying to play hero ball and lost the whole locker room. 

On 6/26/2023 at 8:44 PM, Next_Up said:

That's the second time you've used that GIF in response to a response I posted to your nonsense. You are either not very creative or you've got a thing for Michael Keaton

 

He calls it "Keaton Off" when he's alone

56 minutes ago, rrfierce said:

Read that Ringo hasn't signed a contract yet. Is there a reason for this? 

It's either about the offset language or the Covid vaccine. 

1 hour ago, rrfierce said:

Read that Ringo hasn't signed a contract yet. Is there a reason for this? 

He's decided to sell Pokemon cards instead of playing football.

8 hours ago, brkmsn said:

Even after all this time, and after so many people worldwide have had some type of covid vaccine or another and we're told everything is so great and all the risks are so minimal, why is virtually everything still EUA instead of FDA approved? 

 

 

 

The Pfizer and Moderna vaccines are fully FDA approved, they moved from emergency approval to full late '21 - early '22.

1 hour ago, rrfierce said:

Read that Ringo hasn't signed a contract yet. Is there a reason for this? 

Pen shortage. Due to COVID

1 hour ago, rrfierce said:

Read that Ringo hasn't signed a contract yet. Is there a reason for this? 

He hates Philadelphia

1 hour ago, mikemack8 said:

I would argue that just as many, or more, died due to poor life choices that led to them being obese and having a slew of other health issues which put them at a much higher risk of serious illness when contracting Covid.

One poor life choice was not getting vaccinated.