Just say no to trading Dickerson. He has a chance to be a multiple times All Pro. I’d rather him have those seasons as an Eagle. And why are we harping on his injury background when he’s never been injured as a pro? 

3 minutes ago, FranklinFldEBUpper said:

Just say no to trading Dickerson. He has a chance to be a multiple times All Pro. I’d rather him have those seasons as an Eagle. And why are we harping on his injury background when he’s never been injured as a pro? 

Who wants to trade Dickerson?

35 minutes ago, FranklinFldEBUpper said:

Just say no to trading Dickerson. He has a chance to be a multiple times All Pro. I’d rather him have those seasons as an Eagle. And why are we harping on his injury background when he’s never been injured as a pro? 

He played with an ankle injury for most of the year and was in/out of the lineup. Dude is very tough, but we should continue to be concerned with his injury history. We went through this with Brandon Brooks.

Not sure if this was posted 

https://nypost.com/2023/07/04/eagles-jordan-mailata-belts-out-isnt-she-lovely-at-wedding/amp/

50 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

Who wants to trade Dickerson?

Never heard of it til just now 

On 7/6/2023 at 4:50 AM, Cochis_Calhoun said:

That's the big worry, this team has a window and when it closes it's going to close hard. I expect Lurie to propose unlimited cap or unlimited June 1st designations at one of the upcoming Owners meetings

Since the cap rolls over without penalty and the cap continually rises, you're essentially paying less relatively speaking as a percentage of the cap year to year the more you push it forward.
 

It's basically the same strategic idea of borrowing money at 5% for a home for example instead of using the money you have now to pay for it. Instead, if you can earn 10% investing it, you're constantly getting ahead.

It's odd to see teams worth billions of dollars that strategically don't understand positional and monetary value like the Eagles do. You would think they'd look for every possible advantage, but they don't.

29 minutes ago, mattmcginley7 said:

Since the cap rolls over without penalty and the cap continually rises, you're essentially paying less relatively speaking as a percentage of the cap year to year the more you push it forward.
 

It's basically the same strategic idea of borrowing money at 5% for a home for example instead of using the money you have now to pay for it. Instead, if you can earn 10% investing it, you're constantly getting ahead.

It's odd to see teams worth billions of dollars that strategically don't understand positional and monetary value like the Eagles do. You would think they'd look for every possible advantage, but they don't.

One thing I don't get however, I may be not understanding or missing something though. If you have say 10 mil available right now, what is the benefit of rolling it over rather than signing a player or two on 1 year deals for say 6 mil in total. Once the new league starts you get that 6 mil right back anyway as long as you don't have any dead money type years attached. But just clean 1 year deals. I don't understand the benefit of the rollover unless the league gives you something extra for doing it? The only benefit I can see is to just have that money available during the year in case you want to do extensions during the year. 

2 hours ago, FranklinFldEBUpper said:

Just say no to trading Dickerson. He has a chance to be a multiple times All Pro. I’d rather him have those seasons as an Eagle. And why are we harping on his injury background when he’s never been injured as a pro? 

Because some fans equate unpreventable fluke injuries such as someone rolling up on the back of a player's leg as the player being injury-prone.

 

2 hours ago, RLC said:

He played with an ankle injury for most of the year and was in/out of the lineup. Dude is very tough, but we should continue to be concerned with his injury history. We went through this with Brandon Brooks.

He played 1096 regular season snaps last year (93%), started every game including the postseason where he played an additional 201 snaps. Every single starter in the league last year played through some injury or another. That is football. 

The RG camp battle should be a pretty good one.  What is heightening it for me is Lane Johnson really speaking very highly of Steen and he seems to want him to win that job. On the other hand, Kelce always raves about Jurgens and said he thinks he should start. Should be interesting to follow that battle and to also hear what Lane & Kelce have to say about it throughout camp. 

21 minutes ago, greendestiny27 said:

One thing I don't get however, I may be not understanding or missing something though. If you have say 10 mil available right now, what is the benefit of rolling it over rather than signing a player or two on 1 year deals for say 6 mil in total. Once the new league starts you get that 6 mil right back anyway as long as you don't have any dead money type years attached. But just clean 1 year deals. I don't understand the benefit of the rollover unless the league gives you something extra for doing it? The only benefit I can see is to just have that money available during the year in case you want to do extensions during the year. 

Imagine this scenario: the cap is 200 million and Hurts' contract is 50 million per year.

If we actually pay him 50 million this year, that's 25% of the cap today. That's a large amount and makes signing players currently more difficult.

Instead, let's say we do 25 million this year and it scales up as time increases. That's only 12.5% of the cap

6 years have gone by, the cap is now 400 million. If we pay Hurts 50 million in this season, it's still only 12.5% of the cap.

 

So in this scenario, we are okay with scaling the contract to larger numbers as we project the total cap number to increase 

And I'm pretty sure we have a few dummy years as well in addition to scaling it to further offset the cap year to year cost at the expense of paying him way into the future, at a time where he no longer plays for the team. But when we owe him let's say another 50 million in this scenario, the cap might be 500 million and so he's only taking up 10% of the cap by then. 

If remember correctly, when you include the dummy years, we're paying Hurts like 31 million per season, including non guaranteed money, spread over 8 years. And we scale it upwards with the rise of the cap.

Also, considering how talented and close this team is, even if it wasn't cost effective to push the money into the future, the circumstances we're currently in still make this a good idea

31 minutes ago, greendestiny27 said:

One thing I don't get however, I may be not understanding or missing something though. If you have say 10 mil available right now, what is the benefit of rolling it over rather than signing a player or two on 1 year deals for say 6 mil in total. Once the new league starts you get that 6 mil right back anyway as long as you don't have any dead money type years attached. But just clean 1 year deals. I don't understand the benefit of the rollover unless the league gives you something extra for doing it? The only benefit I can see is to just have that money available during the year in case you want to do extensions during the year. 

You answered it at the end. You want flexibility.

Also depends what the long term roster building strategy is. If you you know you have a lot of FA’s coming up you can roll over money to help retain more of them. 

Danny Ainge  doing Danny Ainge things

 

Philadelphia 76ers restricted free agent F Paul Reed Jr., has signed a three-year, $23M offer sheet with the Utah Jazz, his agent Ron Shade of Octagon Basketball tells ESPN. Sixers have until Sunday at 11:59 PM ET to match sheet and retain Reed.

 

17 hours ago, bpac55 said:

This thing is wild. It just looks so real but fake at the same time. The experience of concerts inside is going to be another level. Not sure how I feel about never being able to escape it if you're actually in Vegas though.

 

that looks like dystopian nightmare

Speaking of Dickerson. Kelce gets some credit but LD manhandled that DT.

 

1 hour ago, greendestiny27 said:

The RG camp battle should be a pretty good one.  What is heightening it for me is Lane Johnson really speaking very highly of Steen and he seems to want him to win that job. On the other hand, Kelce always raves about Jurgens and said he thinks he should start. Should be interesting to follow that battle and to also hear what Lane & Kelce have to say about it throughout camp. 

I know for sure Kelce compared Steen to Brandon Brooks, I believe Lane Johnson did too. Long term I think they really believe in Steen at RG, and I don't think the team should get spooked about starting him if he looks good.

2 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

Speaking of Dickerson. Kelce gets some credit but LD manhandled that DT.

 

Absolutely ridiculous Mailata didn't budge after getting a 300 lb man thrown at him.

7 hours ago, RLC said:

The 2020 draft class, Hurts aside, was bad so there weren't any viable extension candidates.

Next up is the 2021 class (at the end of this upcoming season): Smith, Dickerson, Milton, Gainwell. Gainwell is a RB, so we can wait until he's a UFA. Milton Williams is the type of player that will sign a big contract elsewhere. He's not a starter here, but would start for other teams. He'd bring back a 4th or a 5th since DL get paid in free agency. Smith will get extended because Howie never lets those players walk.

The hard one for me is Dickerson. He's very good, but his injury history makes a 2nd contract very tricky. I'd rather trade him at the end of next year than extend him. Let somewhere else deal with it. I think Howie will want to extend him, despite knowing the risks.

Shamefully bad take.  Dickerson will likely captain the OL after Kelce and Lane retire, which could be within two years.

You should go run laps.

7 hours ago, RLC said:

The 2020 draft class, Hurts aside, was bad so there weren't any viable extension candidates.

Next up is the 2021 class (at the end of this upcoming season): Smith, Dickerson, Milton, Gainwell. Gainwell is a RB, so we can wait until he's a UFA. Milton Williams is the type of player that will sign a big contract elsewhere. He's not a starter here, but would start for other teams. He'd bring back a 4th or a 5th since DL get paid in free agency. Smith will get extended because Howie never lets those players walk.

The hard one for me is Dickerson. He's very good, but his injury history makes a 2nd contract very tricky. I'd rather trade him at the end of next year than extend him. Let somewhere else deal with it. I think Howie will want to extend him, despite knowing the risks.

Milton Williams showed potential but I don’t think he’s proven enough to say that he’s a lock for a big contract elsewhere. Maybe we have different ideas on what a big contract is. Either way, if he’d get said contract, he’s worth much more than a 4th or 5th. In that case, keep him. 

The Dickerson take is just lunacy

Howie hasn’t made a move in awhile. You know he’s itching to make a trade. They aren’t going to get much but I could see bottom of the roster player swaps with K’Von Wallace and Josiah Scott. Both seem to be outside of the roster bubble looking in. 

I kinda sorta like Milton Williams as an undersized but very athletic defensive tackle who could also get some snaps at end. But I also kinda sorta think he’s often overrated by Eagles fans. I think he was a decent value in the third round of a draft that was thought to be pretty weak in terms of depth, but let’s not go nuts here either about how good he actually is. 

The trade Dickerson idea is legitimately one of the worst takes in TATE'rdom history.

Right up there with "Shady McCoy is bust and "What has Aaron Rodgers ever won?".

5 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Howie hasn’t made a move in awhile. You know he’s itching to make a trade. They aren’t going to get much but I could see bottom of the roster player swaps with K’Von Wallace and Josiah Scott. Both seem to be outside of the roster bubble looking in. 

I’d still like to see them make a trade for Budda Baker. I’m not a "cap guy” though so I’m not even sure if it’s feasible. But that’s the one move I’d like to see. 

Jalen Hurts, ?, Jason Kelce

Josh Jobe, Joseph Ngata, Greg Ward

Jalen Carter, Josh Sweat, Fletcher Cox 

 

I was going to say Sanders for pro-bowl ACC but he’s not on the team

4 minutes ago, QuinnWR4 said:

I’d still like to see them make a trade for Budda Baker. I’m not a "cap guy” though so I’m not even sure if it’s feasible. But that’s the one move I’d like to see. 

It’s feasible but it’s going to take premium assets to trade for him and he’s unhappy with his contract and wants to be paid as the top S. Two things the Eagles have shown they don’t really do for a S. 

1 hour ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Howie hasn’t made a move in awhile. You know he’s itching to make a trade. They aren’t going to get much but I could see bottom of the roster player swaps with K’Von Wallace and Josiah Scott. Both seem to be outside of the roster bubble looking in. 

I expect a CJ type move mid to late camp. Not sure which position but would guess LB or S. I do really like Duron Harmon as a FA, he could step in day 1 at FS and not cost much. Think he wouldn't have much competition either. Give Brown the full year getting acclimated to FS similar to how they played it with Dean, Jugens...