2nd day of training camp 2022, vs 2nd day of training camp 2023

19 minutes ago, UK Eagle said:

It looks like Rodgers is taking this off season more seriously than others. He looks in good shape and not so mopey.

To be clear, that is not me nor anyone I know.  Dude must be a moron

Probably Spanish.  Acela-Whiteside was born there.

7 minutes ago, Aerolithe_Lion said:

2nd day of training camp 2022, vs 2nd day of training camp 2023

meanwhile at Eagles camp

1 minute ago, BigEFly said:

Probably Spanish.  Acela-Whiteside was born there.

The funny thing is wearing that while southern Europe is in the middle of a heatwave. Dude must be committed

28 minutes ago, UK Eagle said:

looks like Rodgers is taking this off season more seriously than others. He looks in good shape and not so mopey.

Probably doesn't want it to end up a disaster like Russell Wilson 

2 minutes ago, Bwestbrook36 said:

Probably doesn't want it to end up a disaster like Russell Wilson 

Agree. That spectacle was not a good look and to be fair, he seems to be on a team that seems more energised and happy to have him.  Can do wonders for someone's motivation

15 hours ago, Aerolithe_Lion said:

That’s actually insane. I know we’ve been hyperbolizing Howie lately but the new contract is way smaller. Barnett is a legit bargain now, unbelievable job HR

 

So if I'm reading this right... (because the posted numbers on the main sites are jacked)

More guaranteed money.

Less overall salary

More incentives.

 

 

That's a tough win to get.

Dude looks absolutely tiny out there. He's either not going to be a factor or he's going to be a pain in the butt to account for on the field. 

 

9 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

Dude looks absolutely tiny out there. He's either not going to be a factor or he's going to be a pain in the butt to account for on the field. 

 

For comparison’s sake, Darren Sproles is the name constantly brought up because they’re similar weights coming out of college (Vaughn is 176)

Sproles struggled to maintain a role in the offense and had bad injury problems his first 3 years in the league (45  rushing attempts total in that time), something that isn’t typically brought up in player comparisons. He didn’t start really taking off until he put on nearly 20 lbs of muscle. He was already 190 when the Saints got him. So Vaughn’s main comp creates a precedent that isn’t exactly in his favor

4 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

Dude looks absolutely tiny out there. He's either not going to be a factor or he's going to be a pain in the butt to account for on the field. 

 

He looks like Toad in Mario Kart. 

36 minutes ago, paco said:

So if I'm reading this right... (because the posted numbers on the main sites are jacked)

More guaranteed money.

Less overall salary

More incentives.

That's a tough win to get.

Yup.

Hey, if Barnett wants to hit 7 sacks to get his money, none of us should complain.

2 minutes ago, RLC said:

Yup.

Hey, if Barnett wants to hit 7 sacks to get his money, none of us should complain.

Is that what the incentives are?

4 minutes ago, Aerolithe_Lion said:

For comparison’s sake, Darren Sproles is the name constantly brought up because they’re similar weights coming out of college (Vaughn is 176)

Sproles struggled to maintain a role in the offense and had bad injury problems his first 3 years in the league (45  rushing attempts total in that time), something that isn’t typically brought up in player comparisons. He didn’t start really taking off until he put on nearly 20 lbs of muscle. He was already 190 when the Saints got him. So comparing Vaughn to Sproles is not a good thing

Yea, Sproles really rocked up. He was a bowling ball for his height. Vaughn has to work on his build.

17 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

Dude looks absolutely tiny out there. He's either not going to be a factor or he's going to be a pain in the butt to account for on the field. 

 

DL had him at the LOS.  

14 hours ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Was he always on the books until 2027? Sounds like they just tacked on some dummy years to spread it out more. 

I'm not 100% sure because OTC and Spotrac were out of sync but if I were to guess, yes.  OTC changed since Wednesday and looks like this, which was in line with what spotrac had

Year	Age	Base Salary	Prorated Bonus	Per Game Roster Bonus		Guaranteed Salary		Cap Number	Cap %		Dead Money & Cap Savings Cut (pre-June 1)Cut (post-June 1)Trade (pre-June 1)Trade (post-June 1)RestructureExtension
Total		$2,115,000	$9,885,000	$2,000,000		$3,115,000		$13,000,000
2022	26	$1,035,000	$693,000	$1,000,000		$2,035,000		$2,669,176	1.2%
2023 📝	27	$1,080,000	$1,977,000	$1,000,000		$1,080,000		$3,115,824	1.3%		$10,272,000	($7,156,176)
2024 📝	28	Void	$1,977,000	Void		Void		$1,977,000	0.8%		$7,215,000	($5,238,000)
2025	29	Void	$1,977,000	Void		Void		$5,238,000	1.9%		$5,238,000	$0
2026	30	Void	$1,977,000	Void		Void		$0	0.0%		$3,261,000	($3,261,000)
2027	31	Void	$1,284,000	Void		Void		$0	--		$1,284,000	($1,284,000)

 

This is what Spotrac had Wednesday:

  

On 7/26/2023 at 10:01 AM, paco said:

You are right.  And that seems to not have everything rolled up correctly.  This looks like a big dead cap hit

YEAR		AGE	BASE SALARY	ROSTER	ROSTER/GM	RESTRUCTURE	CAP HIT	DEAD CAP	YEARLY CASH	CASH AAV
2022		26	$1,035,000	$941,176	-	$693,000	$2,669,176	$6,000,000	$4,558,823($4,558,823)	$4,558,823
POTENTIAL OUT: 2023, 1 YR, $4,558,823; $10,692,000 DEAD CAP
2023		27	$1,080,000	-	$58,823	$1,977,000	$3,115,823	$10,692,000	$8,500,000($13,058,823)	$6,529,412
2024		28	-	-	-	$1,977,000	$7,215,000	$7,215,000	-
2025		29	-	-	-	$1,977,000	$1,977,000	-	-
2026		30	-	-	-	$1,977,000	$1,977,000	-	-
2027		31	-	-	-	$1,284,000	$1,284,000	-	-

 

 

15 minutes ago, Aerolithe_Lion said:

For comparison’s sake, Darren Sproles is the name constantly brought up because they’re similar weights coming out of college (Vaughn is 176)

Sproles struggled to maintain a role in the offense and had bad injury problems his first 3 years in the league (45  rushing attempts total in that time), something that isn’t typically brought up in player comparisons. He didn’t start really taking off until he put on nearly 20 lbs of muscle. He was already 190 when the Saints got him. So Vaughn’s main comp creates a precedent that isn’t exactly in his favor

Meanwhile, similar height but a stout and jacked 203, Boston Scott.  Suspect Vaughn is closer to Lorenzo Booker than Sproles.

16 minutes ago, RLC said:

Yup.

Hey, if Barnett wants to hit 7 sacks to get his money, none of us should complain.

New here?

Oh no Penny can catch.  So can Scott.  Kind of kills Kempski’s theory about two types of RBs on the roster.

 

@just relax

Any idea what Stout is focusing on with this drill?

 

 

One thing I liked about Desai, when asked about the young corner group, he emphasized letting them cover like they individually do, not to mimic the vets but to optimize what the player does.  Be himself.  Sounds a lot like Nick’s overall philosophy. 

 

 

1 hour ago, Freshmilk said:

The Eagles are paranoid and don't want to advertise what  is a winning secret sauce.  Why give anybody so much intel on internal processes.

I do miss the old old days of going to training camp and the full coverage there.  Wish we got more.  Played my first live gig at Westchester training camp and would go to the Rat hoping to see players and coaches.

They've been pretty secretive for about a decade now. Ever since they stopped doing Eagles Live

Working on OPI already.