6 minutes ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

Week 1 will tell us a lot about Hurts. Belichick will, imo, 1. Take away the run game and 2. Take away AJ Brown in the passing game. Luckily both Smith and Goedert would be #1 options in a handful of offenses.
 

Either way, I think Hurts has to win being a pocket passer in a tough road game. Would like to see him under center as well. 

Is that even possible without an elite corner? I’m not sure you can take away the run game and still give the extra attention required to take away Brown. 

That said, Belichick with a full offseason to study what we struggled against is fascinating. 

13 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Is that even possible without an elite corner? I’m not sure you can take away the run game and still give the extra attention required to take away Brown. 

That said, Belichick with a full offseason to study what we struggled against is fascinating. 

8 in the box and Brown doubled means leaving receivers uncovered.

That would be one hell of a gameplan.

2 hours ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Yup.  The only blemish was the INT where he dropped a dime to Jeffery and he couldn't bring it in clean.  

 

I always thought Jeffrey had his arm pinned on that pick which is why he couldn't bring it in

8 hours ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Yeah on Twitter, radio, flyers message board and even on here in the flyers thread. Was routinely that. I suggest you go find  flyers threads on emb, Twitter, radio during that time and other message boards. It wasn’t just fans. Things said by the flyers organization also pumped their own prospects up to unreasonable level 

To be fair, there were definitely external media outlets that ranked the flyers organizational depth highly for 3 straight years. The flyers problem has been player development, their only terrible pick was Jay o brien. They haven't really overdrafted anyone in a while, but they cannot develop these players for ish. They draft decently well but their development is god awful. 

They're like the opposite of the eagles drafting OL under Stoutland 

1 hour ago, D-Shiznit said:

 

I said this after hurts 2nd year and I still think it 

Hurts reminds me a lot of Steve young 

Steve young was kind of a raw athletic QB, he didn't just turn into one of the most efficient passes ever over night. He was more an athlete at QB but he turned into a deadly pocket passer who could still threaten defenses with his legs..

I don't think hurts is quite at youngs level as a passer yet and I'm not going to say he'll get there or won't but he's shown he's well on his way and I think the sky's the limit for him as long as he stays healthy.

looks like the beats got to Tommy and bullied him to fall in line 

2 hours ago, Iggles_Phan said:

The throw to Clement in the end zone is a throw QBs dream of making, no doubt.  

The OTHER throw to Clement in the end zone -- the two point conversion that maybe should have been flagged for interference -- is probably one he'd like to have back. He held onto the ball too long before finally tossing it. If he makes that throw immediately, it's two points. And the game changes. Of course, I'm happy with the way things turned out, so I wouldn't want to change anything.

But yeah, Foles was damn near perfect that night. My only other criticism would be the third down play, possibly in the first half, that resulted in an incompletion and led to the game's only punt. I recall he had running room and could have done better.

2 hours ago, QuinnWR4 said:

What has bugged me all offseason is, that fumble doesn’t happen if Seumalo doesn’t false start the play before that. 

Can't that be traced even further back to Gainwell slipping short of the first down mark? We can play this "what if" game endlessly, I'm afraid, and it doesn't really matter because we lost.

7 hours ago, LeanMeanGM said:

There’s nothing to say he wouldn’t fumble on 3rd and 1 vs 3rd and 6. What happens, happens. It was a fluke, but it is what it is. 

QB sneak vs drop back being exposed to the rush. 

 

9 hours ago, ManuManu said:

I honestly don’t even know how to rate how he played with that devastating flukey fumble. You can’t pretend it didn’t happen but it really was just dumb luck. 

All-time performance, even with the fumble.

Still stunned how many crazy plays he made to keep that game close given our defense.

8 hours ago, ManuManu said:

Is that even possible without an elite corner? I’m not sure you can take away the run game and still give the extra attention required to take away Brown. 

That said, Belichick with a full offseason to study what we struggled against is fascinating. 

Maybe not. That’s why I said it’d be priority 2. But I’m thinking they’ll have a safety his way more often than not. 

9 hours ago, Wentz_Era said:

He's tiny...he played on a historic D in college and in his moments so far in the NFL he's been pretty 'meh' at best.  I personally don't have disdain, but he's a lottery pick that I'm expecting nothing out of and I'm hoping I'm surprised at.  

230 is not tiny.

34 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

QB sneak vs drop back being exposed to the rush. 

 

Watching replays of it now, it looks like a designed QB run and Seumalo went left and ended up double teaming a single defender with Kelce when Bolton was lterally lined up smack in front of him, he just stood in the hole and Hurts ran straight at him.  99 times out of 100 he switches the ball and eats a sack and that's it, he might even have recovered the fumble if the ball hadn't fallen onto his foot and kicked it towards the endzone. 

It's like he had all his bad luck for the season on one play in the biggest game of his career.

14 hours ago, Iggles_Phan said:

The big question is will Dean play in PS?  If he's a starter, does he sit with the 1s, or play with the 2s?  And is that a fair assessment tool?

For me, yes and the other "1" LBs and S need to get snaps collectively against other teams - same for the joint practice too. Way too many changes in that area, so even 20 snaps will be good in the first and second games. Dean would be in the 1s and 2s, assuming he is healthy enough to do it of course.  

11 hours ago, bpac55 said:

Can someone explain what the issue is here?

 

That is mad.  I have no idea what was so offensive.  My football teams commentators have thrown far more cutting subtle shade than that and not got in any trouble for it.

8 hours ago, devpool said:

To be fair, there were definitely external media outlets that ranked the flyers organizational depth highly for 3 straight years. The flyers problem has been player development, their only terrible pick was Jay o brien. They haven't really overdrafted anyone in a while, but they cannot develop these players for ish. They draft decently well but their development is god awful. 

They're like the opposite of the eagles drafting OL under Stoutland 

If development was bad, where are the prospects that went to other teams and blossomed under better coaching?

Problem was bad drafting, especially in the middle rounds where they drafted too many players suited to the NHL of the previous decade before rule changes put a greater premium on speed v size.

42 minutes ago, austinfan said:

If development was bad, where are the prospects that went to other teams and blossomed under better coaching?

Problem was bad drafting, especially in the middle rounds where they drafted too many players suited to the NHL of the previous decade before rule changes put a greater premium on speed v size.

Nolan Patrick was one of the worst NHL draft selections of the past 20 years.  He's right there with Nail Yakupov.  The #2 pick is hard to screw up that badly, especially considering the #3, 4, and 5 overall picks from that draft have all had excellent NHL careers so far.

How many of Howie’s FA signings make the team out of Penny, Zaccheus, Arnold, Street, Morrow, Jack, Cunningham, Greedy, Edmunds and Evans?

9 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

How many of Howie’s FA signings make the team out of Penny, Zaccheus, Arnold, Street, Morrow, Jack, Cunningham, Greedy, Edmunds and Evans?

 

 

10 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

How many of Howie’s FA signings make the team out of Penny, Zaccheus, Arnold, Street, Morrow, Jack, Cunningham, Greedy, Edmunds and Evans?

I'll say Penny, Zaccheus, Jack, and Edmunds

 

 

7 minutes ago, garingovt2000 said:

I'll say Penny, Zaccheus, Jack, and Edmunds

Was listening to Sirius NFL Radio yesterday (don’t recall which show).  They both agreed that, at this moment, Cunningham was by far the better LB between him and Jack.  They were saying they’ve heard from sources that Jack is a far cry from his prime and that he is unlikely to ever reach his former level again.  Knee issues.  They were making it sound like it’s not really close between the two

 

 

Seems like Eagles are going with vet backups at OL this year. 

Dean stacking up missed days isn't great.  It's not panic time but it hurts.