2 minutes ago, KINGnabb said:

Obviously sarcasm but still some truth about taking unnecessary risk.  My overall point was we had a chance to end that streak last night.  

There's no chance the starters play Thursday after Monday, Tuesday joint practices. Book stunk. Going for 2 was correct move in the preseason.  I don't even see any of those as debatable 

31 minutes ago, RLC said:

Our LBs right now are Nakobe Dean, Morrow, Elliss, Jack and Cunningham.

That's bad. If Elliss misses any time, we're in real trouble. 

There have been rumblings of Jordan Hicks losing his job in Minnesota....

I feel bad for Bradley but he wasn’t even a lock to make the team. His injury doesn’t mean much besides we need another preseason body and our ST’s went from terrible to terrible. 

18 minutes ago, KINGnabb said:

Sirianni getting cute on the two point and Jake missed FG is why we lost to the 24-0 Preseason Super Bowl Champs Ravens.   It was a fun game though.  We had them. Though Book didn't throw that great, he had a strong bursts.  I like how he was making things happen out there.  Quick Turnaround with a Thursday Home game.  I say give the starters a quarter and that's it.  But I blame Sirianni for the loss.  We should have just taken the extra piont.   

Why blame anybody for the loss?, it's pre season, only people that care about winning pre season games are the ravens and apparently you.

31 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

I’m not sure why Blankenship would be penned in as a starter at this point 

He took every first team snap during practice and didn’t play last night. He’s a starter. 

A few things that were interesting...

Morrow had more tackles in fewer snaps than both Cunningham and Jack. I have to believe that he and Dean will be the starters.

The battle for the second safety spot is probably over at this point as Edmunds was taken out of the game before Wallace, but it was encouraging that Brown and Wallace were making plays. Wallace especially has struggled in the past with taking bad angles or getting washed out of plays, but last night he showed better instincts.

Again, it wasn't a great sign that Brown was making a lot of tackles with Cunningham and Jack on the field.

Driscoll was better than Kelly against better competition at RT. He faced David Ojabo, who is a legit talent, and it was a typical performance by him in that he didn't really win his reps, but lost slowly enough that the qb was never in danger. My guess is that Steen, Sills and Driscoll are the only backups who make the roster.

Ricks and Garner are probably fighting for one roster spot. But I could see the team keeping Garner for special teams with Bradley out. If they go light at LB (keeping just four - Morrow, Dean, Ellis and one of Jack/Cunningham) it opens up a possible spot for Garner.

 

 

 

 

57 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

My take on safety remains the same. With all the guys they have a good shot at average safety play. Possible upside with a Blankenship-Brown combo in long run but possible below average mix too.  I expect average

That is a very reasonable take.

27 minutes ago, jsb235 said:

A few things that were interesting...

Morrow had more tackles in fewer snaps than both Cunningham and Jack. I have to believe that he and Dean will be the starters.

The battle for the second safety spot is probably over at this point as Edmunds was taken out of the game before Wallace, but it was encouraging that Brown and Wallace were making plays. Wallace especially has struggled in the past with taking bad angles or getting washed out of plays, but last night he showed better instincts.

Again, it wasn't a great sign that Brown was making a lot of tackles with Cunningham and Jack on the field.

Driscoll was better than Kelly against better competition at RT. He faced David Ojabo, who is a legit talent, and it was a typical performance by him in that he didn't really win his reps, but lost slowly enough that the qb was never in danger. My guess is that Steen, Sills and Driscoll are the only backups who make the roster.

Ricks and Garner are probably fighting for one roster spot. But I could see the team keeping Garner for special teams with Bradley out. If they go light at LB (keeping just four - Morrow, Dean, Ellis and one of Jack/Cunningham) it opens up a possible spot for Garner.

 

 

 

 

LB seems more and more like a position Howie needs to make a trade for. Barnett and a pick....a pick...whatever. It doesn't have to be Queen, but they need someone stable there they can rely on.

1 hour ago, Alphagrand said:

Blankenship is not the incumbent starter at safety; he’s simply a guy left over from last season.  He backed up CGJ and Epps last season, and when CGJ got injured last season Blankenship drew in off the bench.  That doesn’t make him a presumptive starter this season — at least, it shouldn’t.

He may win the starting spot, but that remains to be seen.  If he does win the starting job, I haven’t been impressed enough by his play thus far to assume he’ll keep the job 

I think you are reading more into the situation than is there when you say "presumptive."  I get the sense that Blankenship's performance throughout Training Camp is speking loudest, not any coaches' presumption.

Man, you know QB2 sucks when you would much rather have Jameson Winston😅

2 hours ago, eagle45 said:

How much did Jordan Davis play and how did he look?

Not much, and he looked big.   Carter got only 2 snaps and flashed big on his first.  Davis didn't flash... then again, I don't think Davis' game will ever have much 'flash' to it.  The high side for him, I think is to clog it up and let the LBs make the plays.  He'll look better on film later taking on blockers more than making the plays for himself.

I'm not going to say camp is irrelevant, but people lose sight of this every year and overvalue camp. A guy like Nick Morrow who has started games in this league, and while he's never been a world beater, he's been solid. A guy like Rashaad Penny who's been a legitimate stud when healthy... you have reporters projecting these guys to get cut because they didn't have a standout camp. The games are all that matters. These guys have track records.

Wouldn't be surprised if Howie adds some combination of a LB/S/Punter before the season.

1 hour ago, KINGnabb said:

Though Book didn't throw that great, he had a strong bursts.  I like how he was making things happen out there.    

Care to elaborate on what he made happen?

1 hour ago, KINGnabb said:

Obviously sarcasm but still some truth about taking unnecessary risk.  My overall point was we had a chance to end that streak last night.  

Ok...  apologies for being confused.

1 hour ago, KINGnabb said:

Obviously sarcasm but still some truth about taking unnecessary risk.  My overall point was we had a chance to end that streak last night.  

No one wants overtime preseason. There’s no reason to kick the xp there. 

https://x.com/aidandoc_/status/1690761392729559040?s=46&t=gAwjPxzSEDdTSordgsDRvw
 

The tweet isn’t loading for some reason, but last night I referenced Davis winning on one pass rush. It’s not an impressive win like Carter’s, but he effectively collapsed the pocket. 

1 hour ago, jsb235 said:

A few things that were interesting...

Morrow had more tackles in fewer snaps than both Cunningham and Jack. I have to believe that he and Dean will be the starters.

The battle for the second safety spot is probably over at this point as Edmunds was taken out of the game before Wallace, but it was encouraging that Brown and Wallace were making plays. Wallace especially has struggled in the past with taking bad angles or getting washed out of plays, but last night he showed better instincts.

Again, it wasn't a great sign that Brown was making a lot of tackles with Cunningham and Jack on the field.

Driscoll was better than Kelly against better competition at RT. He faced David Ojabo, who is a legit talent, and it was a typical performance by him in that he didn't really win his reps, but lost slowly enough that the qb was never in danger. My guess is that Steen, Sills and Driscoll are the only backups who make the roster.

Ricks and Garner are probably fighting for one roster spot. But I could see the team keeping Garner for special teams with Bradley out. If they go light at LB (keeping just four - Morrow, Dean, Ellis and one of Jack/Cunningham) it opens up a possible spot for Garner.

 

 

 

 

I know there was a lot of hype when Jack and Cunningham signed but I was confused by not just signing one but both 

Neither of them at their age are going to give you much on special teams and both I think are past the point in their careers where they are reliable starters.

Jack was pretty bad last year in Pitt And he's damaged goods, his tires are bald.

Meanwhile Cunningham has barley played the last two years due to injury and when he had played he's useless on passing plays but good against the run in a passing league.

Everybody may be down on morrow but at least the dude can run and isn't hobbled and is decent in pass coverage.

I wouldnt be surprised if one or both of Jack and Cunningham were cut 

Signing them just looks desperate especially seeing as neither play teams.

Maybe the eagles need to put a little more resources into LB Instead of bringing in 1 year rentals off other teams trash heaps...

3 hours ago, ToastJenkins said:

Can you breakdown the sack we gave up on first possession?

i cant tell If Steen screwed up or the guard should have passed off and picked up the blitzing LB

Here you go.

The OLB for the Ravens takes a wide set but comes at the snap. Steen sees him and sets to his left. The ILB over the LG seems to be reading the play.

 

The DT, who set up on the outside shoulder of the LG crosses his face and attacks the A gap. Swift (#0) releases to the flat. As he does so...

...the ILB blitzes. Steen sees him but, because the rush LB set up so far outside, Steen can't get there. It's worth noting that if Mariota had read the blitz, he had a

wide open Swift  in the left flat.

Steen ends up blocking neither guy. Still, I put the blame for this on Mariota.

12 minutes ago, WentzFan11 said:

No one wants overtime preseason. There’s no reason to kick the xp there. 

They actually don't have overtime in preseason anymore but still need to go for the win there anyway. Would be pretty weak to just kick the XP

1 hour ago, LeanMeanGM said:

How does it feel to get bodied by Bacarty3?

He ghosted

2 minutes ago, just relax said:

Here you go.

The OLB for the Ravens takes a wide set but comes at the snap. Steen sees him and sets to his left. The ILB over the LG seems to be reading the play.

The DT, who set up on the outside shoulder of the LG crosses his face and attacks the A gap. Swift (#0) releases to the flat. As he does so...

...the ILB blitzes. Steen sees him but, because the rush LB set up so far outside, Steen can't get there. It's worth noting that if Mariota had read the blitz, he had a

wide open Swift  in the left flat.

 

Steen ends up blocking neither guy. Still, I put the blame for this on Mariota.

A lot of blitzes can be beat pretty easily if the QB recognizes it quickly and knows where to go with the ball.  Athletic QBs many times just seem like they want to bail and make a play with their legs, rather than with their mind/arm.

21 minutes ago, Utebird said:

I know there was a lot of hype when Jack and Cunningham signed but I was confused by not just signing one but both 

Neither of them at their age are going to give you much on special teams and both I think are past the point in their careers where they are reliable starters.

Jack was pretty bad last year in Pitt And he's damaged goods, his tires are bald.

Meanwhile Cunningham has barley played the last two years due to injury and when he had played he's useless on passing plays but good against the run in a passing league.

Everybody may be down on morrow but at least the dude can run and isn't hobbled and is decent in pass coverage.

I wouldnt be surprised if one or both of Jack and Cunningham were cut 

Signing them just looks desperate especially seeing as neither play teams.

Maybe the eagles need to put a little more resources into LB Instead of bringing in 1 year rentals off other teams trash heaps...

Even if they are both cut it is pretty much a no harm, no foul situation.  In that case they were snap count eaters … and a different option than Davion Taylor, whose ship had sailed.

1 hour ago, Diehardfan said:

LB seems more and more like a position Howie needs to make a trade for. Barnett and a pick....a pick...whatever. It doesn't have to be Queen, but they need someone stable there they can rely on.

Don't see Howie trading a pick for a LB unless it is a good one or a late round pick on a LB that is going to be a cut.  Most likely, he will wait to see who hits the street.

 

25 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

https://x.com/aidandoc_/status/1690761392729559040?s=46&t=gAwjPxzSEDdTSordgsDRvw
 

The tweet isn’t loading for some reason, but last night I referenced Davis winning on one pass rush. It’s not an impressive win like Carter’s, but he effectively collapsed the pocket. 

Yah, that was the one rep that looked very positive.

I was hoping that Davis would develop more than a bull rush, but he's so strong that I get why he wants to rely on that.

33 minutes ago, just relax said:

Here you go.

The OLB for the Ravens takes a wide set but comes at the snap. Steen sees him and sets to his left. The ILB over the LG seems to be reading the play.

 

The DT, who set up on the outside shoulder of the LG crosses his face and attacks the A gap. Swift (#0) releases to the flat. As he does so...

...the ILB blitzes. Steen sees him but, because the rush LB set up so far outside, Steen can't get there. It's worth noting that if Mariota had read the blitz, he had a

wide open Swift  in the left flat.

Steen ends up blocking neither guy. Still, I put the blame for this on Mariota.

Excellent breakdown, thank you.

Do that to Hurts and Swift takes it for 25+ yards. Its 100% on the QB.

Cunningham and Jack were signed a week ago and hadn't been in a camp.  I don't think how they played 6 days after being signed is a definitive proof of anything yet