Wonder what Carter currently weighs

37 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Or... crazy thought... don't gamble on NFL games.  That doesn't seem to be that hard to do as a professional athlete.  

Or they just haven't been caught

14 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Baldy claims Seumalo played around 335. I find that hard to believe. 

Quote

"Lane wants to play next to a big guy like (former Eagle Brandon) Brooks and Seumalo. He doesn’t want to play next to (Cam) Jurgens, a 300-pound center. They’re not going to get any movement … Seumalo is much better than people gave him credit for. He didn’t make mental errors. He comes from a football family. He had less than five penalties last year. The Eagles couldn’t afford him. He played between 330-335 pounds, and you never had to worry about the guy. And he was large. Jurgens isn’t 310. He’s a pumped up 300. He’s purely a center. Lane and Kelce know that better than anyone.”

Baldy doesn't think he's Jurgens can be a guard

8 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

Or they just haven't been caught

Baldy doesn't think he's Jurgens can be a guard

why the Eagles always listing Seumalo at 305.  Steelers have him listed at 303

11 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

Wonder what Carter currently weighs

Looks like 316 to me

52 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Or... crazy thought... don't gamble on NFL games.  That doesn't seem to be that hard to do as a professional athlete.  

I thought the Detroit players were actually gambling on other sports but were doing it from the Lions' facilities.  

21 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

Or they just haven't been caught

Baldy doesn't think he's Jurgens can be a guard

Lane wants Brandon Brooks. Baldy, that's a keen bit of analysis.

Baldy: "Lane, who do you want as the RG?" Lane: "A pro bowl RG would be ideal."  Baldy: "boy I never would have guessed that as your response..."

2 hours ago, GoEagles5921 said:

Would make no sense to get DHop with the other needs they have

Probably not.  Would be nice to have both though. 

I've been sort of considering/planning on writing something about the Eagles offensive line situation for awhile now. What I'm planning is not a reaction to the news that they had worked out D.J. Fluker yesterday or the day before. But I guess that workout sort of agrees with the general point I was planning on making. And that is, I think the Eagles will look to add a veteran to the unit between now and August. And not just someone who might have a chance to win the tenth spot but someone who might actually be more than that, someone who could actually play if things go bad during the year regarding health.

My thinking on that is based on the premise that the Eagles really, REALLY love their offensive line depth. It's sort of been their trademark of late. I actually think their philosophy in training camp is "our twelfth and thirteenth guys are better than your eighth and ninth guy." Just think about last year. In the final cutdown, they released three guys who within a month were on active rosters of other teams. Jack Anderson was claimed immediately by the Giants. Kayode Awosika was snagged a little while later by the Lions. And Le'Raven Clark was signed by the Titans in late September. These were guys who went to active rosters of other teams, not just practice squads. That really means that the Eagles went through camp last year with about a dozen guys who were legitimate 53-man roster players. It also speaks to what they really thought of Josh Sills last year. They must really have liked him to keep him over guys who could roster elsewhere. And even though he didn't play, they made sure to keep Sills on the active roster the entire season, just to redshirt him for this season. I'm sure they were anticipating a big jump by him in year two. And then things went sideways for him in January, and who knows what the hell is going on there?

And that list doesn't even include Nate Herbig, who they had on the roster through the draft last year, unless I'm misremembering the date. They simply released him so that the could catch on elsewhere since he wasn't going to be needed. Nor does it include Brett Toth, who was on PUP all year long.

So my point is that they cherish offensive line depth. It's really, really important. And yet, this offseason we saw the loss of two guys who can start in the league in Isaac Seumalo and Andre Dillard. Both signed contracts to start for other teams. Both of them signed contracts high enough to qualify for compensatory picks. So they weren't just your ordinary free agent types. Those were significant losses. The problem is, where is this depth going to come from this year? They were down the two guys they lost, and it's entirely possible that Sills never plays again for us. That's THREE spots that need to be accounted for. Okay, we got Steen in the draft, and I'm hopeful that he can be an eventual starter. But that's probably not a this-year thing.

It's kinda naive to think there won't be injuries and that you'll be able to stroll through the season with the guys you go to camp with. So I'm not sure that we can just assume we'll start Mailata, Dickerson, Kelce, Jurgens, and Johnson all year and have Steen and Driscoll be the backups and we'll be fine. There needs to be more than that. Sure, there's Opeta, and he's okay. But it was clear they preferred Sills. (Remember, they played a roster activation game with Opeta late in the year whereby they waived him, exposing him to the rest of the league, only to quickly sign him to the practice squad and activate him from there. That was something they weren't doing with Sills.)

There needs to be someone good added to the unit. Without it, our depth this year is going to be ordinary run-of-the-mill depth. We're not going to be in the position where our twelfth and thirteenth guys are good enough to make active rosters elsewhere.

I randomly found this

He had trouble hearing so he just kept calling everyone who came on the phone coach lol. Seems like a great dude.

1 hour ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

 

 If not the eagles which probably won't happen. Ravens or Chargers is best scenario .

47 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

Or they just haven't been caught

What I said was... as a professional athlete, don't bet on games in the league you are employed in.   It really isn't that big a deal, unless you are an addict.  And if you are an addict, it is a MAJOR deal and they need to seek help immediately so that they don't allow themselves to be compromised in their sport and they get banned for life.  

Being a professional athlete comes with a few caveats that go along with the paycheck and not having to 'get a real job'.  If you want that lifestyle, you have to play by their rules.  Not gambling on the NFL should be easy enough for a player.  And if they can't handle that, then they don't belong in the sport.

4 minutes ago, eaglestime34 said:

 If not the eagles which probably won't happen. Ravens or Chargers is best scenario .

 

Yeah both of those teams make sense.  I want to see him in Baltimore though.  Lamar gets so much slander for never having quality weapons to throw to outside of his TE.  Give him Hopkins and let's see how that offense looks.

36 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

I thought the Detroit players were actually gambling on other sports but were doing it from the Lions' facilities.  

If the rules are that they can't gamble on the premises, then so be it.  It really isn't that big a deal.  If they can't abide by those rules, then they have a gambling problem.

1 hour ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Baldy claims Seumalo played around 335. I find that hard to believe. 

What a bunch of crap.  Both Seumalo and Jurgens weighed 303 at the Combine; there's no way looking at Seumalo that he's put on 30 pounds of muscle since then.  Jurgens tested much better than Seumalo in every way -- better speed, size, strength, explosion.  Everything.

1 minute ago, Iggles_Phan said:

What I said was... as a professional athlete, don't bet on games in the league you are employed in.   It really isn't that big a deal, unless you are an addict.  And if you are an addict, it is a MAJOR deal and they need to seek help immediately so that they don't allow themselves to be compromised in their sport and they get banned for life.  

Being a professional athlete comes with a few caveats that go along with the paycheck and not having to 'get a real job'.  If you want that lifestyle, you have to play by their rules.  Not gambling on the NFL should be easy enough for a player.  And if they can't handle that, then they don't belong in the sport.

I think majority just bet on non nfl games at team facilities

1 minute ago, Alphagrand said:

What a bunch of crap.  Both Seumalo and Jurgens weighed 303 at the Combine; there's no way looking at Seumalo that he's put on 30 pounds of muscle since then.  Jurgens tested much better than Seumalo in every way -- better speed, size, strength, explosion.  Everything.

I'm sure Seumalo put on 30 lbs of muscle in his first NFL offseason... all NFL players do it.  Jurgens did too.  Easily up to 330 by now, if not more.   Might even get to 350 by the start of TC.  Putting on 30 lbs of muscle is easy, especially with the NFL special vitamins.

 

 

 

/sarcasm

1 minute ago, Mike030270 said:

I think majority just bet on non nfl games at team facilities

Probably do.  But if they aren't allowed to bet at the team facilities, then they have to abide by that rule.  It shouldn't be an issue for anyone who doesn't have a gambling problem.  All professions have rules about what can and can't be done on the premises. 

15 minutes ago, FranklinFldEBUpper said:

I've been sort of considering/planning on writing something about the Eagles offensive line situation for awhile now. What I'm planning is not a reaction to the news that they had worked out D.J. Fluker yesterday or the day before. But I guess that workout sort of agrees with the general point I was planning on making. And that is, I think the Eagles will look to add a veteran to the unit between now and August. And not just someone who might have a chance to win the tenth spot but someone who might actually be more than that, someone who could actually play if things go bad during the year regarding health.

My thinking on that is based on the premise that the Eagles really, REALLY love their offensive line depth. It's sort of been their trademark of late. I actually think their philosophy in training camp is "our twelfth and thirteenth guys are better than your eighth and ninth guy." Just think about last year. In the final cutdown, they released three guys who within a month were on active rosters of other teams. Jack Anderson was claimed immediately by the Giants. Kayode Awosika was snagged a little while later by the Lions. And Le'Raven Clark was signed by the Titans in late September. These were guys who went to active rosters of other teams, not just practice squads. That really means that the Eagles went through camp last year with about a dozen guys who were legitimate 53-man roster players. It also speaks to what they really thought of Josh Sills last year. They must really have liked him to keep him over guys who could roster elsewhere. And even though he didn't play, they made sure to keep Sills on the active roster the entire season, just to redshirt him for this season. I'm sure they were anticipating a big jump by him in year two. And then things went sideways for him in January, and who knows what the hell is going on there?

And that list doesn't even include Nate Herbig, who they had on the roster through the draft last year, unless I'm misremembering the date. They simply released him so that the could catch on elsewhere since he wasn't going to be needed. Nor does it include Brett Toth, who was on PUP all year long.

So my point is that they cherish offensive line depth. It's really, really important. And yet, this offseason we saw the loss of two guys who can start in the league in Isaac Seumalo and Andre Dillard. Both signed contracts to start for other teams. Both of them signed contracts high enough to qualify for compensatory picks. So they weren't just your ordinary free agent types. Those were significant losses. The problem is, where is this depth going to come from this year? They were down the two guys they lost, and it's entirely possible that Sills never plays again for us. That's THREE spots that need to be accounted for. Okay, we got Steen in the draft, and I'm hopeful that he can be an eventual starter. But that's probably not a this-year thing.

It's kinda naive to think there won't be injuries and that you'll be able to stroll through the season with the guys you go to camp with. So I'm not sure that we can just assume we'll start Mailata, Dickerson, Kelce, Jurgens, and Johnson all year and have Steen and Driscoll be the backups and we'll be fine. There needs to be more than that. Sure, there's Opeta, and he's okay. But it was clear they preferred Sills. (Remember, they played a roster activation game with Opeta late in the year whereby they waived him, exposing him to the rest of the league, only to quickly sign him to the practice squad and activate him from there. That was something they weren't doing with Sills.)

There needs to be someone good added to the unit. Without it, our depth this year is going to be ordinary run-of-the-mill depth. We're not going to be in the position where our twelfth and thirteenth guys are good enough to make active rosters elsewhere.

I agree with everything you said. I’ve also said earlier in the off-season I don’t think you can just assume Jurgens is going to be good because he’s in his second year, got stoutland teaching him and playing right guard. The Eagles tried similar with Isaac Seumalo his second year and he eventually got benched in week two. thankfully they had Stephen Wisniewski as a backup because otherwise they were in some trouble because seumalo was clearly not ready. Frankly we don’t have a backup in that wiz mold. Driscoll is ok but never stays healthy. Steen is a rookie.  Don’t trust any of the rest. 

The Eagles need to release videos like this, dammit. 

Edit: Although maybe not if they have Mayer that high. That’s embarrassing. 

21 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

The Eagles need to release videos like this, dammit. 

Edit: Although maybe not if they have Mayer that high. That’s embarrassing. 

 

 

It'd go something like this:

 

 

 

3 hours ago, Mike030270 said:

For who? Aren't they still stuck with Murray?

Financially, yes.  But that still wouldn't stop me from drafting Caleb Williams if I was the Cards GM

Somehow the Texans almost won the DeAndre Hopkins trade. If only they hit on the 2nd round pick they got for him.

Just now, LeanMeanGM said:

Somehow the Texans almost won the DeAndre Hopkins trade 

I know it’s a different regime than the one who made that trade. But it’s almost why I would try to get Budda Baker because I’m betting you’re gonna get him at a value that’s better than what you think because the Cardinals are poorly run still. They knew Hopkins wanted to be traded at the end of the season. The best time to trade him was leading up to the draft. They kept holding out trying to get more than what they were going to get back. At some point in time you just Gotta take what you can instead of getting nothing by releasing him. Because if you traded him you get at least something in return for him and your  situation would be nearly the same money situation anyways.

also baker has no guaranteed money left on that contract. Add onto that You’re trading for his base salary in 2023 which is gonna be 13.1 million in 2023. His base in 2024 is 14.2 million. Knowing the Eagles and the fact that he’s 27 years old I’m guessing they probably offer him an extension with some guaranteed money and manipulate it so they can lower his cap number down to something more reasonable. 

that said, I think it comes down to more about whether the Cardinals are reasonable, and what they expect to acquire for him.

Kelce was on Chris Long pod and he said Jurgens was around 307 during the season and Tyler Steen reminds people in the building of Brandon Brooks 

Can we agree to be reasonable with the RG battle?

Someone will loose between Jurgens/Steen, when that happens, let's not automatically label the other a bust.