40 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Covey can punt too? What can’t that kid do?! 

Zach Wilson's mom???

2 minutes ago, Cliftoma said:

Yup 

Not surprised, said when he was signed I  didn't think he'd make it out of camp And be cut 

I was wrong he wasn't cut ...

5 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

Sure was and it didn't have to be. That article talked about Reid getting angry and saying screw this....well that worked out well.

Yeah I think I remeber that story as well., I remember that day I was pretty pissed off, Trotter was one my favorite players.

It was nice when he and Reid and the eagles made up and trotter made an instant impact in 04.

Axe man was the man 💪

15 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

Maybe it's because I still think the Eagles would have won the SB if Reid didn't pull Trott's tag the year they lost to Tampa....but trying to make due with just a guy at LB will come back to bite them. They are trying so hard to make a few guys work for the spot who in all honestly shouldn't even be on the roster. Make a trade, give up an asset, but save probably 2 roster spots they could use at WR/CB/RB/DL for someone who could actually help the team this year. They probably won't, but that's the better move IMO.

Cunningham as a backup to that guy? I'd rather see Ellis and ditch Morrow as well.

Ellis looks fast and explosive, which surprised me. I don't want him starting but I think he's shown much better than Morrow in both games. They can wipe their hands of Morrow and not have any money owed I believe. 

Meanwhile, Ivan Pace had another good game for the Vikings😡

11 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

I remember them talking on 610 back then that it was Reid who decided to pull the tag but I could be wrong. What a shame that year was....

 

Edit

 

Have any other teams lost top end talent for next to nothing like the Eagle have?

Taking the tag off Trotter and letting him walk.

Trading Corey Simon for peanuts (granted he was a shell of his rookie year)

Cutting DJack

Trading Shady for a glorified ST LBer.

53 minutes ago, metal said:

Arazia still has a civil case pending. He hasn't had a visit or anything since working out for the Jets back in May. My guess is he probably wants to get that case out of the way before signing anywhere. 

Jalen Carter has a Civil case pending as well. So that is not it

4 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

Have any other teams lost top end talent for next to nothing like the Eagle have?

Taking the tag off Trotter and letting him walk.

Trading Corey Simon for peanuts (granted he was a shell of his rookie year)

Cutting DJack

Trading Shady for a glorified ST LBer.

Pretty sure they just ended up lifting the tag off Simon too and didn’t get anything 

13 minutes ago, Cliftoma said:

 

 

The season is rapidly falling apart.

1 minute ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Pretty sure they just ended up lifting the tag off Simon too and didn’t get anything 

No loss there really, lifting the tag saved them in the end because he wasnt worth the tag, he was fat and had bad knees and going down hill fast 

He was great his rookie year then ate his way right out of the league.

Too bad he could have been really good.

7 minutes ago, DeathByEagle said:

Jalen Carter has a Civil case pending as well. So that is not it

Ariaza having sex with a drunk minor, even if it's no longer a criminal case, carries a lot of weight. 

6 minutes ago, Utebird said:

No loss there really, lifting the tag saved them in the end because he wasnt worth the tag, he was fat and had bad knees and going down hill fast 

He was great his rookie year then ate his way right out of the league.

Too bad he could have been really good.

I think that might have been the last time the Eagles used the franchise tag too

11 minutes ago, RLC said:

Ariaza having sex with a drunk minor, even if it's no longer a criminal case, carries a lot of weight. 

Yeah maybe might be something the league can't just sweep under the rug and pretend never happened 

Ray Lewis murderer🤷‍♂️

Big Ben rape 🤷‍♂️

Ray Rice Mike tysoned his girlfriend 🤷‍♂️ caught on tape 😡 banned 

Watson 20+ sex assaults 🤷‍♂️

Kraft gets a rub and tug🤷‍♂️

Punter found not guilty in a court of law for statutory 😡 Ban

Kapernik kneeled, the whole league holds hands then 😡 Ban.

The league has no method to their madness...

3 hours ago, just relax said:

Montana's ball placement and timing were peerless. That's what made him so great.

Add to that knowing where to put the ball as well in terms of his reading of the defenses.

1 minute ago, LeanMeanGM said:

I think that might have been the last time the Eagles used the franchise tag too

Come to think of it yeah you might be right 

I remember Westbrook held out for a bit during contract negotiations but i don't think they ever tagged him???

That of course lasted like a second as Reid and Co realized Westbrook was holding all the cards.

Wouldn't happen today because RBs are about as valuable as punters but still...

3 minutes ago, Utebird said:

Yeah maybe might be something the league can't just sweep under the rug and pretend never happened 

Forgetting modern standards for a second, why would a team want to put up with all of that for a punter?

Just now, RLC said:

Forgetting modern standards for a second, why would a team want to put up with all of that for a punter?

Because he's got a cool nickname...😒

2 hours ago, pgcd3 said:

Smith is going to take the next step this year. Best WR combo we've ever had

 

 

 

So much disrespect to Thrash and Pinkston and Charles Johnson and Torrence Small!!!

 

On a serious note, I think that this is unquestionably the best duo we've had... but who is Number 2?

Maclin/Jackson
Barnett/Williams
Quick/Carter
Carmichael/Charlie Smith

 

2 hours ago, wussbasket said:

People want a player with the potential to take it to the house. While Covey is great at fielding and getting a decent return, I don’t think he has much potential to break one big.

For the record, I don’t mind Covey as the PR, but I don’t like that that’s the only thing he can contribute to the team.

I wouldn't use the word 'great' here.  He is capable of field and getting a decent return.  

Add to the fact that he is basically adequate, with no ability to put fear into the opposing ST unit about a return that he can't have an impact on offense, and its really a wasted roster spot.   It was interesting to see OZ returning punts in the last preseason game.  He's a guy I'd much rather have back returning punts as he does offer some impact on offense as well.

2 hours ago, pgcd3 said:

Smith is going to take the next step this year. Best WR combo we've ever had

 

 

 

What is the next step?  That would be amazing no matter what you think the next step is.  There is a reasonable argument that he was our best WR last year by a small margin over AJ.  

34 minutes ago, DeathByEagle said:

Jalen Carter has a Civil case pending as well. So that is not it

Here's what his lawyer said

"Mr. Araiza remains unemployed. There are football teams that want him. They will not have a try out until (the plaintiff) voluntarily dismiss(es) this case or he gets a verdict in this courtroom,” Araiza attorney Dick Semerdjian said Friday during a hearing in Braner’s downtown San Diego courtroom. 

https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/courts/story/2023-08-04/attorneys-for-punter-araiza-press-for-quick-trial-date-in-civil-case-alleging-rape

So it's not him, it's the teams that are waiting for this to be settled. Either way I don't expect to see him signed before this is out of the way.

1 hour ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Covey can punt too? What can’t that kid do?! 

Reach items on the top shelf at the grocery store.

24 minutes ago, RLC said:

Ariaza having sex with a drunk minor, even if it's no longer a criminal case, carries a lot of weight. 

Can you fill me in on this a bit?   How old was he and how old was she at the time it was supposed to have happened?

2 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

So much disrespect to Thrash and Pinkston and Charles Johnson and Torrence Small!!!

 

On a serious note, I think that this is unquestionably the best duo we've had... but who is Number 2?

Maclin/Jackson
Barnett/Williams
Quick/Carter
Carmichael/Charlie Smith

I actually looked up all the pairings since 1980 added up there receptions yards tds av.not sure where it went I can't find it right now.

A lot of times the pairings were carried by one WR like T.O and pinkston with TO having most yards rec And tds by a wide margin.

Quick and Carter while talented at individual times together weren't that great in that quick was on the down side of career and Carter was young, his biggest year with the birds was barely 700 yards.

Barnett and Williams best year statistically was there rookie years as the next 5 years when one of them played really well the other was hurt or Randall was hurt which really hurt them both 

Carmichael and Smith were pretty but smiths best years were in the downside of Carmichael's.

Desean and Riley Cooper were surprisingly good for one year

And one pairing you didn't mention that were really good for 1 season were Irving fryar and Chris T Jones ☹️

I think Brown and Smith though are at the top.

One would have to go back to the 60s team with McDonald and Walston  to see a comparable pairing and its tough to compare those olden days teams with today.

Heck it's tough to compare today's game with 10 years ago