6 hours ago, D-Shiznit said:

F'in love this kid. "I want the playbook now coach, send me a PDF. I want to be out on the field. I'm being deadass serious"

This kid has the right attitude.

He's already become one of my favorite Eagles and he hasn't played a down yet. I love the kid, and am up to 5 autographed rookie cards of his. He better not suck.

5 hours ago, Ace Nova said:

I tend to agree.  Although Hopkins would be an amazing addition, there’s only so many plays/passes/balls to go around.  The biggest incentive is to keep him from going to KC - which would make KC that much more difficult to play against - if we were to make it to the Super Bowl against them. 
 

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I have a feeling he’ll end up in KC 😤

 

My guess is Buffalo.

4 hours ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I’ve said him for a while but i think he’s likely waiting til an injury happens to sign somewhere or at least after mini camps and potentially training camp 

This.

2 hours ago, RememberTheKoy said:

Ravens are only morons if they don't find a way to get Hopkins signed.  They are like the early era McNabb-Eagles.  Just struggling for years to finally get around to giving Lamar a top flight WR to cook with.  I get the OBJ signing because at that point they had to do something.  They still need to do more though and Hopkins would be that more.  I was already leaning Ravens winning the AFC a couple days ago but them signing Hopkins would only reinforce that.  

Friendly bet that the Ravens DON'T win the AFC? Sig bet? Avatar bet?

3 minutes ago, Outlaw said:

He's already become one of my favorite Eagles and he hasn't played a down yet. I love the kid, and am up to 5 autographed rookie cards of his. He better not suck.

My guess is Buffalo.

This.

Friendly bet that the Ravens DON'T win the AFC? Sig bet? Avatar bet?

I don’t know if the ravens win the afc or not. That conference is loaded at Qb. It’s a year where having the one seed really makes a difference so you avoid playing a 7 seed that might have someone like a herbert or rodgers type Qb. I’d still bet on bengals or chiefs but I do know if anyone should just count on Odell Beckham Jr. being healthy or reliable. There’s been 98 potential games he could have played over the last six years and he has played in 53 games. So 54% of the games. He’s played in 13 games or more in 2 of those 6 seasons. Heck even if with took out 2022 and go 2016-2021 he’s played in just 65% of the games over that time.

I get playing with Baker Mayfield you’re not gonna have the ideal production but I’m not so sure after this knee injury he’s ever going to get himself back to being a top 15 wide receiver in the NFL. There’s a chance obj is just never the same and he’s already unreliable in terms of staying healthy 

21 minutes ago, Outlaw said:

Friendly bet that the Ravens DON'T win the AFC? Sig bet? Avatar bet?

Ravens are no better than the #6 seed in the AFC as it stands right now.  Bengals will win that division unless injuries stop them, and I don’t see any measure in which BAL should be favored over the Jets, for example.  Many other teams could finish higher than BAL — Miami, the Chargers …. what happens if Deshaun Watson becomes a top 8 QB again?

41 minutes ago, Outlaw said:

He's already become one of my favorite Eagles and he hasn't played a down yet. I love the kid, and am up to 5 autographed rookie cards of his. He better not suck.

My guess is Buffalo.

This.

Friendly bet that the Ravens DON'T win the AFC? Sig bet? Avatar bet?

 

I would consider a sig bet based on the parameters but an avatar bet is off limits.  My avatar is a brand.  You wouldn't understand.  

10 hours ago, RememberTheKoy said:

Ravens are only morons if they don't find a way to get Hopkins signed.  They are like the early era McNabb-Eagles.  Just struggling for years to finally get around to giving Lamar a top flight WR to cook with.  I get the OBJ signing because at that point they had to do something.  They still need to do more though and Hopkins would be that more.  I was already leaning Ravens winning the AFC a couple days ago but them signing Hopkins would only reinforce that.  

They don't need to add Hopkins, Lamar has already said he's going to throw for 6000 yards.  Seems he's quite confident in his receivers.

AFC has the top teams in the NFL right now.  Chiefs, Bills, Bengals are all head and shoulders above the Ravens.  Chargers, Jets (now with a real QB), Jacksonville are poised to make a push.  Ravens have a long way to go to be able to run that gauntlet.

9 hours ago, RememberTheKoy said:

Hurts making a big leap forward and being in the MVP conversation.

You have me there

8 hours ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

I would consider a sig bet based on the parameters but an avatar bet is off limits.  My avatar is a brand.  You wouldn't understand.  

Your brand is essentially the Enron of the EMB. But sure, sig bet. Winner gets to provide the text of the loser’s sig for 30 days. 

36 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

They don't need to add Hopkins, Lamar has already said he's going to throw for 6000 yards.  Seems he's quite confident in his receivers.

AFC has the top teams in the NFL right now.  Chiefs, Bills, Bengals are all head and shoulders above the Ravens.  Chargers, Jets (now with a real QB), Jacksonville are poised to make a push.  Ravens have a long way to go to be able to run that gauntlet.

I think there is a slight underestimation happening of the ravens roster here. Remember they were 9-4 and in the drivers seat of the division before Lamar got hurt. The gap between Cincinnati and Baltimore was in Baltimore’s favor as they had already beaten Cincy in their first matchup. Had Cincy lost to Buffalo in the Damar Hamlin game, Baltimore would have been playing for the division week 18… despite not even having a QB for over a month. They nearly beat Cincy again in the first round of the playoffs before Tyler Hundley fumbled on the goalline. As That scoop and score was the difference in the game, Lamar may have won that game easily.

Baltimore’s roster is very talented. Keep in mind they didn’t have Roquan Smith all year, their best defensive player, as they traded for him after week 10. And then Marcus Williams, their star free agent, was injured week 10 so those 2 barely played together at all. Then add the improvements to the wide receiver position and it is entirely possible Baltimore is flat out better than Cincinnati this season. A lot of it is riding on Lamar’s health, but projecting injures isn’t the clearest way to differentiate the AFC hierarchy

1 hour ago, Aerolithe_Lion said:

I think there is a slight underestimation happening of the ravens roster here. Remember they were 9-4 and in the drivers seat of the division before Lamar got hurt. The gap between Cincinnati and Baltimore was in Baltimore’s favor as they had already beaten Cincy in their first matchup. Had Cincy lost to Buffalo in the Damar Hamlin game, Baltimore would have been playing for the division week 18… despite not even having a QB for over a month. They nearly beat Cincy again in the first round of the playoffs before Tyler Hundley fumbled on the goalline. As That scoop and score was the difference in the game, Lamar may have won that game easily.

Baltimore’s roster is very talented. Keep in mind they didn’t have Roquan Smith all year, their best defensive player, as they traded for him after week 10. And then Marcus Williams, their star free agent, was injured week 10 so those 2 barely played together at all. Then add the improvements to the wide receiver position and it is entirely possible Baltimore is flat out better than Cincinnati this season. A lot of it is riding on Lamar’s health, but projecting injures isn’t the clearest way to differentiate the AFC hierarchy

The discussion is the Ravens as AFC Champions, meaning winning playoff games and getting to the Super Bowl.  I’d take the AFC field over the Ravens all day every day.  The Ravens are still building their roster, scheme, and cap around Lamar Jackson.  I’ll take Mahomes over him in a high stakes playoff game.  I’ll take Allen, Rodgers, Burrow over Jackson easily.  I don’t see Jackson having any distinct advantage over Herbert, either — other than the Chargers never make the playoffs, so that argument is moot.

BAL have a top 5 defense, but CIN and the Jets are right there with them defensively.  The Ravens definitely aren’t getting the #1 seed, so they’ll need three playoff wins to get out of the conference.

5 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

The discussion is the Ravens as AFC Champions, meaning winning playoff games and getting to the Super Bowl.  I’d take the AFC field over the Ravens all day every day.  The Ravens are still building their roster, scheme, and cap around Lamar Jackson.  I’ll take Mahomes over him in a high stakes playoff game.  I’ll take Allen, Rodgers, Burrow over Jackson easily.  I don’t see Jackson having any distinct advantage over Herbert, either — other than the Chargers never make the playoffs, so that argument is moot.

BAL have a top 5 defense, but CIN and the Jets are right there with them defensively.  The Ravens definitely aren’t getting the #1 seed, so they’ll need three playoff wins to get out of the conference.

I don’t agree with them being shoe-ins for the SB appearance, was responding to that posters’ assertion that Baltimore was "head and shoulders” below Cincinnati

26 minutes ago, Aerolithe_Lion said:

I don’t agree with them being shoe-ins for the SB appearance, was responding to that posters’ assertion that Baltimore was "head and shoulders” below Cincinnati

Unless Lamar Jackson stays healthy for a full season they are head and shoulders below Cincinnati.  Jackson will continue to get injured regularly until he changes his style of play, which I’m betting against.  His injury history isn’t by accident — it’s an accumulation of punishment from the contact he takes all season long.  As he gets older that will continue.  
 

Lamar Jackson playing close to 17 games will be the outlier season, not the norm going forward.  The only contingency the Ravens made at QB was to bring in Josh Johnson — the guy who was comically bad for the 49ers against the Eagles this past January.  I wouldn’t be on them being AFC contenders at this point.

32 minutes ago, Aerolithe_Lion said:

I don’t agree with them being shoe-ins for the SB appearance, was responding to that posters’ assertion that Baltimore was "head and shoulders” below Cincinnati

They are.  Cincinnati has proven themselves in the playoffs.  The Ravens remain unproven... or more exactly, they have proven themselves to be lacking when the playoffs arrive.  Until the Ravens can win consistently in the playoffs, they remain significantly behind the Bengals, no matter what their respective regular season records are.

Like i said he’s wants a big contract as it’s likely his last big one at age 31. 

 

The problem is there's not a lot of cap room out there for him. Bills and Chiefs are strapped. Though I suppose they could always restructure a few deals, but you figure most teams already did most of their restructuring during free agency.

I wonder why the Panthers haven't been linked to him. I guess because they're not a contender? But they're #2 in cap space, they have basically been trying to piece back together their WR group after trading Moore. Hopkins would be a nice target for Young.

Colts could be interested too.

Patriots and Ravens have more cap room than the Bills and Chiefs.

4 hours ago, Iggles_Phan said:

They don't need to add Hopkins, Lamar has already said he's going to throw for 6000 yards.  Seems he's quite confident in his receivers.

AFC has the top teams in the NFL right now.  Chiefs, Bills, Bengals are all head and shoulders above the Ravens.  Chargers, Jets (now with a real QB), Jacksonville are poised to make a push.  Ravens have a long way to go to be able to run that gauntlet.

Despite being in neutral, if not reverse, the Ravens have consistently managed to be a popular pick for the SB.  I don’t get it.

1 hour ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Like i said he’s wants a big contract as it’s likely his last big one at age 31. 

 

His health since the trade, his age, his wants in a QB, front office management etc. don’t jive with a "significant contract.  

33 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

His health since the trade, his age, his wants in a QB, front office management etc. don’t jive with a "significant contract.  

Don’t disagree on his health and age from a team stand point. But I don’t think he’s willing to taking a pay cut to sign somewhere. I’d be shocked if he doesn’t get a better contract than obj and likely much better looking at OBJ contract. Part of the reason they cardinals didn’t get a trade done is that he was unwilling to restructure his contract to help facilitate a move. He easily could’ve done that to help get him to a place where he wanted to go already. He didn’t. Some of that possibly control where he wanted to go. Some of that is also he wanted a new contract with only two years left on his deal and he is at 30 and waiting two years to get it his value drops more. At his age and wear and tear this is his last opportunity to get paid what he believes is big money. 

 

I wonder how Fluker looked in his workout. If he has anything left wouldn't be a bad depth signing. There's still a decent amount of money left under the cap for some depth signings for OL, S, LB.

1 hour ago, eagle45 said:

Despite being in neutral, if not reverse, the Ravens have consistently managed to be a popular pick for the SB.  I don’t get it.

People are pretending the WRs open deep on the sidelines that Lamar could not reach was a WR problem?

He's a runner and a middle of the field throw it to huge TEs QB. He's not that guy. Dumb people bet all the time.

1 hour ago, eagle45 said:

Despite being in neutral, if not reverse, the Ravens have consistently managed to be a popular pick for the SB.  I don’t get it.

Some teams are media darlings... the Ravens are one such team.

3 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Some teams are media darlings... the Ravens are one such team.

This. People have been betting the Cowboys to win the SB for 27 years.

3 hours ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Like i said he’s wants a big contract as it’s likely his last big one at age 31. 

 

I think he’ll do a 1 year deal. Just a hunch

14 minutes ago, SkippyX said:

This. People have been betting the Cowboys to win the SB for 27 years.

So this is how many years since the boyz have won a Superbowl? 

 

 

                                 

 

Finally got a piece ive been searching for to give me dad for Father’s Day for a while. From the 2019 Buffalo game

 

16 hours ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

Haha, okay buddy.  Says the same guy who would have the same sort of stuck up response to one of my posts last year about Hurts making a big leap forward and being in the MVP conversation.  

Lamar has the second highest win percentage of active QBs in the NFL behind only Mahomes.  He has done this too along with becoming the youngest player in NFL history to win MVP with never having elite or top end WRs in the league and never really anything special at RB either.  He has had a great TE and that is it.  Comparatively he has had the worst surrounding cast of skill players that any top young QB in this current era has had.  If Odell can stay healthy and pan out and if they sign Hopkins to go along with what they have then that's a legit contender and Lamar will again be on MVP watch if he can stay healthy for most of the season.  It's one of the 6 or 7 best QBs in the league with one of the 6 or 7 best HCs in the league on one of the 6 or 7 top run organizations in the league.  They add Hopkins and Odell to an already playoff team and you're damn right they are a contender.  

If you had to choose:

Hurts or Jackson