6 minutes ago, Utebird said:

Yup.

Reports are that Dean has been blitzing a bit more in practice something that at Georgia he was pretty good at 

Not sure how much Desai is going to blitz Dean but I'd rather take my chances blitzing him than dropping him in coverage.

I think also the eagles probably don't want to pair Dean who has like 35 NFL snaps with another guy in Ellis who has even less, so pairing Dean with Cunningham who has started a bunch of games could help ease him in until Ellis is ready to take over.

Or even morrow who hasn't  really made any splash plays but has looked capable.

We'll see how it shakes out in a bit I guess 

For some reason Morrow is a big TFL guy.  That sounds good but it might mean a lot of plays get behind him too. Not sure.

Has anyone noticed what Nick Herbig has been doing? Envy the Steelers ability to find LB.

 

Just now, pgcd3 said:

For some reason Morrow is a big TFL guy.  That sounds good but it might mean a lot of plays get behind him too. Not sure.

Yup, seems like he's a go around blocks rather than through them,but. I mean he only weighs like 220 so🤷‍♂️

I liked how he played in Chicago he was all over the place but the eagles are being really tight lipped about how they're going to deploy their LBs which is good but as a fan frustrating.

1 minute ago, bpac55 said:

Has anyone noticed what Nick Herbig has been doing? Envy the Steelers ability to find LB.

 

Yup whenever the Steelers need another LB they just go shake the tree and another pro bowl LB falls out 

Meanwhile Howies shaking the tree and myles Jack falls out and retires a week later...😒

1 minute ago, Utebird said:

Yup, seems like he's a go around blocks rather than through them,but. I mean he only weighs like 220 so🤷‍♂️

I liked how he played in Chicago he was all over the place but the eagles are being really tight lipped about how they're going to deploy their LBs which is good but as a fan frustrating.

I suspect they aren't in love with their LBs as Cunningham showing life is enough to get 1st team reps.  I don't think they'll trade a high pick for a guy but I think Howie will keep the options open.  

On the other front I don't think punter is that impactful but it's a fail to go into the season with Siposs after he basically had a mediocre camp after a bad season

1 minute ago, bpac55 said:

Has anyone noticed what Nick Herbig has been doing? Envy the Steelers ability to find LB.

 

Their RB flashed too. They are a real RB, LB and WR factory. 

Just now, LeanMeanGM said:

Their RB flashed too. They are a real RB, LB and WR factory. 

Just haven't had good QB play in years and that matters most

Just now, pgcd3 said:

I suspect they aren't in love with their LBs as Cunningham showing life is enough to get 1st team reps.  I don't think they'll trade a high pick for a guy but I think Howie will keep the options open.  

On the other front I don't think punter is that impactful but it's a fail to go into the season with Siposs after he basically had a mediocre camp after a bad season

Yup, hopefully a better punter from another team shakes loose after cuts .

I mean Jake Elliot was cut by the Bengals then kicking FGs in the super bowl so it's not unheard of.

Would be great if they could do something like that again because siposs is just so bad.

13 minutes ago, Utebird said:

That you don't see the difference between a highschool QB and a college Heisman candidate QB says it all.

My highschool QB was all state won state player of the year and a championship as a JR. He was a running QB we ran triple option.

He went to BYU didn't play til his SR year after a couple dudes got hurt. Had a great senior year got drafted by the niners in the 5th or 6th round started like one game after a couple guys in front of him got hurt, he was in the league for like 3 years???

No one in the NFL cares that he was a great high school player, majority of NFL players were great high school players 

That covey was means Jack so why bring it up.

In well aware of coveys college career, he played 10 minutes away from where I grew up, lot of hype after his freshman year but he could never stay healthy and he's not big or really that fast which is why he went undrafted. He's shown In the pros he can be a reliable PR, could he probably run a few gadget plays where he runs or throws the ball? sure. But one doesn't  game plan around that when you have AJ Smitty and goedert in the team and about 4 other guys that are going to get touches before covey.

As for ward I don't care about his college career as a QB he's not a QB he's a WR a mediocre one at that, I don't care that he has comparable athletic measurements to covey who returns punts, when ward returned punts he was a disaster, if he wasn't they wouldn't have gone to covey another undrafted to replace him 

Could ward return punts in a pinch? Sure but one doesn't go out of ones way to make him your starting PR or give him a roster spot because he once was a Heisman candidate QB, none of that matters.

As for Nolan at PR KR, come on now, what evidence do we have that he can actually be effective at either? Can he consistently field punts safely as well as kicks, does he have the vision to follow his blocks? I mean if it was just about raw RAS numbers then teams would just go find some super athletic guy with a high RAS score who's not really a football player and let him get his freak on.

Oh wait they have a guy on their team whose a world class hurdler who can't get on the field because even though he's super fast and athletic he's not a very good football player.

Takes more than just having a high RAS score at any given position to succeed at said position.

 

 

 

You don't understand what I mean.  where did I say I didn't understand the difference between high school and college?

You can assign your own weight to the relative importance of high school vs college.

I'm pointing out the skills that these people have.  Which ones were QBs and can throw the ball and/or run the ball from the QB spot.  Can take a snap.  QBs are good to innovate with because they take snaps all the time.  

I think that you think that I'm trying to say something that I'm not.

You aren't spot on with the reading comprehension.  I was saying that Crovey's measurables were better, not that they were the same.   I'm going to give up trying to reply, too much of what you're saying is off in some way,  you're missing my point.   I'm pointing out that Covey was a QB at a high level, and that Ward was a QB at a high level.  And the reason I point that out is that I would like innovation out of those QBs or similar QBs.   Ward is a WR.  A WR who can throw and run.  Covey is a WR who can throw and run.  I'd like to see innovation where the WRs who were top performing QBs throw the ball.  Those Philly Specials.

Versatile Freakbeasts.   Neither Ward nor Covey are freakbeasts, but they're high level versatile. 

1 minute ago, pgcd3 said:

Just haven't had good QB play in years and that matters most

Yea, they stuck with Ben for far too long. Hell of a career for him though. Arguably the best QB in 2004 and Pitt didn’t even have to trade for him. 

11 hours ago, brkmsn said:

Always take this claim with a grain of salt. The "true story" could just be how during covid NASCAR (I know this isn't NASCAR) drivers raced on consoles for a stint or maybe there was a video game competition where the prize was to ride in a real car for a few minutes. There doesn't need to be much to "base" on in Hollywood. But if the consumer believes it, maybe they'll buy the game and really play it. 

You nailed the theme of the movie. 

Imagine being this confident in something yet being so completely wrong. Literally would take 2 min to confirm whether the "Hollywood claim" is accurate.

8 hours ago, Sack that QB said:

I still think they should bring him in. Can always cut him later and re-sign Siposs if the worst came to absolute worst. No one's going to sign Siposs, he'll remain on the FA market if cut.

If their going ahead plan is to look at/keep both, then I would do it in the reverse of what you propose.  Keep Siposs on the 53-man and sign Araiza to the Practice Squad.

 

9 minutes ago, Random Reglar said:

You don't understand what I mean.  where did I say I didn't understand the difference between high school and college?

You can assign your own weight to the relative importance of high school vs college.

I'm pointing out the skills that these people have.  Which ones were QBs and can throw the ball and/or run the ball from the QB spot.  Can take a snap.  QBs are good to innovate with because they take snaps all the time.  

I think that you think that I'm trying to say something that I'm not.

You aren't spot on with the reading comprehension.  I was saying that Crovey's measurables were better, not that they were the same.   I'm going to give up trying to reply, too much of what you're saying is off in some way,  you're missing my point.   I'm pointing out that Covey was a QB at a high level, and that Ward was a QB at a high level.  And the reason I point that out is that I would like innovation out of those QBs or similar QBs.   Ward is a WR.  A WR who can throw and run.  Covey is a WR who can throw and run.  I'd like to see innovation where the WRs who were top performing QBs throw the ball.  Those Philly Specials.

Versatile Freakbeasts.   Neither Ward nor Covey are freakbeasts, but they're high level versatile. 

Highschool isn't a high level compared to the NFL.

Covey isn't a QB, he's a WR and a PR.

Like I said if he makes the team maybe he'll get in on one play and have a run throw option, when they're up by 50 to the giants.

My comprehension is fine I get exactly what you are saying and I'm telling you it's nonsense.

 

45 minutes ago, brkmsn said:

What part of that isn't a "concept?" Go ahead and watch the movie and tell me if everything in the movie literally happened. I won't see it, so I won't know. I'm counting on you. 

this is amazing

4 minutes ago, Utebird said:

 

Covey isn't a QB, he's a WR

 

Even THAT feels like a stretch 

45 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

Has anyone noticed what Nick Herbig has been doing? Envy the Steelers ability to find LB.

 

I was always surprised he wasn't talked about more in here with his brother being Nate.

41 minutes ago, Utebird said:

Yup, hopefully a better punter from another team shakes loose after cuts .

I mean Jake Elliot was cut by the Bengals then kicking FGs in the super bowl so it's not unheard of.

Would be great if they could do something like that again because siposs is just so bad.

Dicker the kicker was a revelation out of nowhere. 

It's too bad there's no Cunter the punter waiting to be discovered.

Was driving down I-95 to Baltimore and heard this song

Georgia, Georgia
The whole day through (the whole day through)
Just an old sweet song
Keeps Georgia on my line (Georgia on my line)

 

I said Georgia
Georgia
A song of you (a song of you)
Comes as sweet and clear
As moonlight through the pines

 

Other arms reach out to me
Other eyes smile tenderly
Still in peaceful dreams I see
The road leads back to you

 

I said Georgia
Oh Georgia, no peace I find (no peace I find)
Just an old sweet song
Keeps Georgia on my line (Georgia on my mind)

 

Other arms reach out to me
Other eyes smile tenderly
Still in peaceful dreams I see
The road leads back to you

 

Whoa-whoa, Georgia
Georgia
No peace, no peace I find
Just an old, sweet song
Keeps Georgia on my line (Georgia on my line)

I said just an old sweet song
Keeps Georgia on my line.

1 hour ago, Alphagrand said:

Your proposition was Hurts missing 2-6 games.  If I’m reading that objectively I will default to the middle and use 4 games.  The punter isn’t going to be a key variable in helping a team’s playoff positioning in that scenario 

If he adds enough to give you a 20% chance at an extra win over 4 games, wouldn’t that be significant?

3 hours ago, Aerolithe_Lion said:

How do PS numbers work? Let’s say Book gets released, then goes to PS. Does McKee snag his number in the pending few hours and then Book needs yet another number?

I think it's more likely that McKee would keep 10, Book would keep 19, and the punter would get something in the 40s.

It's absolutely silly how the Eagles have been giving out single digit and teen numbers to regular players at such an alarming rate that they've now burned through almost all the options. Giving out both 3 and 13 this offseason seems especially egregious.

At least they finally handed out 86 and 87 again.

I'm okay with Dean and Elliss.

Fight me.

18 minutes ago, Iggles25 said:

I'm okay with Dean and Elliss.

Fight me.

1 hour ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Imagine being this confident in something yet being so completely wrong. Literally would take 2 min to confirm whether the "Hollywood claim" is accurate.

I can honestly admit to being disinterested in the story behind the movie and what story it was based on. Cocaine Bear was "based on a true story." There's a lot of leeway in that phrase, which is used to sell a lot of fiction. Hopefully the movie stays pretty accurate for the sake of those interested.

1 hour ago, we_gotta_believe said:

this is amazing

The fact that I didn't know the story behind the movie does not change that the entire thing is a "concept."  The competition to use a specific video game tournament to narrow down a huge field of competitors to one winner where the prize is mainly a "drive" on a team in a 24 hour race --- which I'm pretty sure they prepared him for with real (non-simulated) practice. Then to parade the guy around in different race levels to keep bringing in the publicity, which in turn sells more games, and brings in more contestants for more annual tournaments. Then they make a movie about their most successful tournament winner --- turned "professional." (keep in mind that all drivers are part of a team that drives one car). Yes the entire thing is indeed a concept --- even if they don't sensationalize the story at all. 

If you want to really know how much of this is about the story and how much is about the video game, well the real story happened when he won the tournament in 2011, so the video game  footage should be of Gran Turismo 5 (2010) and not Gran Turismo 7 (2022). In fact, they should have all the genuine footage of his (video game) races to use for the movie footage of the tournament. 

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2023/08/28/gran-turismo-movie-review-fremont

 

Gran Turismo 5 game play

Gran Turismo 7 game play

 

1 hour ago, TEW said:

If he adds enough to give you a 20% chance at an extra win over 4 games, wouldn’t that be significant?

There’s no question the Eagles recognize Siposs is a bottom-tier NFL punter; the majority of his stats rank about 26th or worse.  The Eagles brought in a free agent punter to compete against him in training camp, and objectively Siposs "won” the job — because Zentner was even worse, more than anything.

Strangely, one punting stat I cannot find online is hang time.  It’s really strange the league wouldn’t track this important metric.  Siposs had a 45.6 yard per punt, but only a 38.6 net yard per punt — so the Eagles are allowing 7.0 yards per return, which is over the league average.

The point I’m trying to get at is — Siposs’ poor punting might be further exacerbated by a poor coverage unit.  The Titans brought in a big leg to punt last season in Ryan Stonehouse, who averaged 53 yards per kick, but their net punt average was down at 43.4 yards — averaging almost 10 yards per return.  I assume he is out-kicking his coverage team with regularity.  I don’t think Siposs would look quite as bad if the Eagles’ coverage unit was better.