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EMB Blog: 2023 Camps and Preseason - NO POLITICS

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10 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

 

I think the ship has sailed on that guy.

He was waaaay overdrafted out of Western Michigan, with not a lot of tape against high-level competition and didn’t run at the Combine nor pre-draft workouts.  I liked him in that draft, like most Eagles fans did (I think his thread in IWTETG was over 60 pages IIRC).  
 

He’ll get another shot with another NFL team, but I highly doubt he’ll ever be an impactful player.

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2 hours ago, HazletonEagle said:

Dicker the kicker was a revelation out of nowhere. 

It's too bad there's no Cunter the punter waiting to be discovered.

That escalated quickly...

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Who!

51 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

There’s no question the Eagles recognize Siposs is a bottom-tier NFL punter; the majority of his stats rank about 26th or worse.  The Eagles brought in a free agent punter to compete against him in training camp, and objectively Siposs "won” the job — because Zentner was even worse, more than anything.

Strangely, one punting stat I cannot find online is hang time.  It’s really strange the league wouldn’t track this important metric.  Siposs had a 45.6 yard per punt, but only a 38.6 net yard per punt — so the Eagles are allowing 7.0 yards per return, which is over the league average.

The point I’m trying to get at is — Siposs’ poor punting might be further exacerbated by a poor coverage unit.  The Titans brought in a big leg to punt last season in Ryan Stonehouse, who averaged 53 yards per kick, but their net punt average was down at 43.4 yards — averaging almost 10 yards per return.  I assume he is out-kicking his coverage team with regularity.  I don’t think Siposs would look quite as bad if the Eagles’ coverage unit was better.

A reasonable possibility. Hang time numbers would definitely give better context. 

3 hours ago, pgcd3 said:

For some reason Morrow is a big TFL guy.  That sounds good but it might mean a lot of plays get behind him too. Not sure.

I would take the trade off. Putting a team ~5 yards behind schedule on first down is going to result in some 3rd down punts and red zone field goals.

30 minutes ago, TEW said:

A reasonable possibility. Hang time numbers would definitely give better context. 

If only there were someone who would painstakingly clock hang times of all the punts in every Eagles game and regularly provide that information for anyone to see. We can only wish, I suppose.

1 hour ago, FranklinFldEBUpper said:

If only there were someone who would painstakingly clock hang times of all the punts in every Eagles game and regularly provide that information for anyone to see. We can only wish, I suppose.

I was thinking about the non eagles players as a comparison.

7 hours ago, TEW said:

If he adds enough to give you a 20% chance at an extra win over 4 games, wouldn’t that be significant?

Nope

6 hours ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

 

Why would it be interesting to watch?  Is he going to go elsewhere and shine?

5 hours ago, FranklinFldEBUpper said:

If only there were someone who would painstakingly clock hang times of all the punts in every Eagles game and regularly provide that information for anyone to see. We can only wish, I suppose.

Yeah. Who would do such a thing? And while at it, would anyone be crazy focused enough to do the same for the other team in those games and maybe keep a running tally over the course of the season?

7 hours ago, brkmsn said:

I can honestly admit to being completely uninformed and too lazy to confirm, but now that I have spent the 2 min needed to find out, I'm gonna still pretend I wasn't wrong.

fyp 

14 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

fyp 

I didn't say my prior assumption wasn't wrong and I admitted to not really caring to investigate earlier. 

This seems awfully important to you. The original post on the topic was a query about CGI and I attempted to explain the "concept" (which you took exception to) --- that at least a lot of the early racing footage is supposed to be from the game since it's about a player that wins a gaming tournament and gets into real racing. 

I hope you enjoy the movie. Maybe I'll dust off the old Wii and keep working on prepping for my PGA debut. 

Just now, brkmsn said:

I didn't say my prior assumption wasn't wrong and I admitted to not really caring to investigate earlier. 

This seems awfully important to you. The original post on the topic was a query about CGI and I attempted to explain the "concept" (which you took exception to) --- that at least a lot of the early racing footage is supposed to be from the game since it's about a player that wins a gaming tournament and gets into real racing. 

I hope you enjoy the movie. Maybe I'll dust off the old Wii and keep working on prepping for my PGA debut. 

Not as important as it was to you when you implied it was a mostly fictionalized Hollywood claim, and then doubled down on it after someone pointed out to you that it wasn't.

I just find it amusing how some people can be so sure of something, and yet still refuse to simply look it up when someone else doubts their understanding of a story. Simply admitting fault must be a bridge too far for some, I suppose.

When is the roster cut down date?  Must be fairly soon right?

4 minutes ago, UK Eagle said:

When is the roster cut down date?  Must be fairly soon right?

August 29th

5 minutes ago, UK Eagle said:

When is the roster cut down date?  Must be fairly soon right?

29 August.  See, I even wrote that your way.

5 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Not as important as it was to you when you implied it was a mostly fictionalized Hollywood claim, and then doubled down on it after someone pointed out to you that it wasn't.

I just find it amusing how some people can be so sure of something, and yet still refuse to simply look it up when someone else doubts their understanding of a story. Simply admitting fault must be a bridge too far for some, I suppose.

Let's look at the post I made that you took such exception to:

21 hours ago, brkmsn said:

Always take this claim with a grain of salt. The "true story" could just be how during covid NASCAR (I know this isn't NASCAR) drivers raced on consoles for a stint or maybe there was a video game competition where the prize was to ride in a real car for a few minutes. There doesn't need to be much to "base" on in Hollywood. But if the consumer believes it, maybe they'll buy the game and really play it. 

You nailed the theme of the movie. 

It's pretty obvious I didn't know the background of the story. I was mostly commenting on the "based on a true story" claim in general and admitting I'm a skeptic. I used the word "could" which denotes I had no idea. 

But since you are here, making a big deal about what I did or didn't know about a movie I won't see, I need to ask you which story is more interesting:

Matt Leo's story or Jordan Mailata's story? Which would make a better movie?

9 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

August 29th

8 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

29 August.  See, I even wrote that your way.

Cheers - one of the more mundane banes of my job is rewriting American dates so that the APJ folks then don't complain about the wrong date format

9 hours ago, HazletonEagle said:

I was always surprised he wasn't talked about more in here with his brother being Nate.

Agreed

7 hours ago, Alphagrand said:

There’s no question the Eagles recognize Siposs is a bottom-tier NFL punter; the majority of his stats rank about 26th or worse.  The Eagles brought in a free agent punter to compete against him in training camp, and objectively Siposs "won” the job — because Zentner was even worse, more than anything.

Strangely, one punting stat I cannot find online is hang time.  It’s really strange the league wouldn’t track this important metric.  Siposs had a 45.6 yard per punt, but only a 38.6 net yard per punt — so the Eagles are allowing 7.0 yards per return, which is over the league average.

The point I’m trying to get at is — Siposs’ poor punting might be further exacerbated by a poor coverage unit.  The Titans brought in a big leg to punt last season in Ryan Stonehouse, who averaged 53 yards per kick, but their net punt average was down at 43.4 yards — averaging almost 10 yards per return.  I assume he is out-kicking his coverage team with regularity.  I don’t think Siposs would look quite as bad if the Eagles’ coverage unit was better.

Net average is also affected by touchbacks … a 20 yard difference for each one.

4 hours ago, TEW said:

I was thinking about the non eagles players as a comparison.

Franklin has those on the non-Eagles punter in each game.  Seek and ye shall find.

Since the NFL granted Australia and New Zealand to the Eagles as their IHMA, maybe they like having a couple players from that market on the team. It didn't really make much sense not to bring in competition last season for Siposs and Zentner wasn't much competition this season. 

1 hour ago, brkmsn said:

Let's look at the post I made that you took such exception to:

It's pretty obvious I didn't know the background of the story. I was mostly commenting on the "based on a true story" claim in general and admitting I'm a skeptic. I used the word "could" which denotes I had no idea. 

But since you are here, making a big deal about what I did or didn't know about a movie I won't see, I need to ask you which story is more interesting:

Matt Leo's story or Jordan Mailata's story? Which would make a better movie?

You keep saying it's a big deal to me not realizing it's like your 4th post now trying to walk it all back. It's just admitting you were wrong, with extra steps.

2 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

You keep saying it's a big deal to me not realizing it's like the your 4th post now trying to walk it all back. It's just admitting you were wrong, with extra steps.

I admitted ignorance several times.

You really got me! I quit. I lose. You're the winner. 

 

 

 

The one Debbie Downer on this team is special teams. Between coaching and players shaping up to be a problem

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