9 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Howie passed on handing out extensions last year because he thought it would be detrimental to team chemistry. I just can’t seem him going big at outside corner and disrupting Slay/Bradberry. 

Won't be a problem this year, as there are so few players worth extending.

Although I'm not worried about what Calcaterra or Penny think if they want to extend Stoll or Swift.

7 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Howie passed on handing out extensions last year because he thought it would be detrimental to team chemistry. I just can’t seem him going big at outside corner and disrupting Slay/Bradberry. 

I don't see it either, but from a cap perspective, one of them would have to be moved to add Surtain, and Bradberry is the only one that that is feasible for.  But, as my final conclusion stated, it would cost too much beyond that to even worry about.  The point of my post was to point out that while the Eagles have a great many bodies at CB, they may not have a single one on the roster now that is likely to be on the roster in 2025.   Hopefully at least one of these young guys really steps up and proves himself, but as of this moment, the current roster construction as an argument to ignore adding a CB, especially a stud, is sorely lacking in actual supporting evidence.

Free Shocker 

Of course I wouldn 't turn downb Surtain but maybe seeing what we have in Ricks & giving 21yr old Ringo more than one camp might be a sound strategy too

1 hour ago, BigEFly said:

Interesting perspective.  I would argue that it was a combination of all aspects including the alliance with Russia but the three front approach, beginning in North Africa and continuing in Italy, depleted and removed the Italy component and forced a stretch of Germany’s forces, then a combination of the combined British and American aerial assault depleted German industrial capabilities and from the southern assault depleted the energy aspects including preventing a real incursion into the Middle East.  One cannot overlook the impact of Britain’s defense of India, the Suez Canal and in doing so protecting the oil resources from Germany.  It is well understood that Iraqi leaders were sympathetic to National Socialism.  (The impact of the western usurpation of natural borders and peoples in the Middle East and Africa are still playing out today as well as how that played into the early oil policies of the US and Britain).  That defense was greatly benefited by the US’s and Australian (oft overlooked much as the Canadians were) fierce fighting in the Pacific.  While the resources were concentrated towards Europe, the impact of what was in essence a revenge raid with little impact itself in damaging Japan’s industry, Doolittle’s raid turned into a huge strategic coup because Japan concentrated on protecting itself and recent acquisitions and abandoned its move toward India where it had such a successful initial bombardment on Ceylon.   I would argue that the greatest reason for Russian success was its devotion to such a sacrifice of men and because of that it wasn’t really equipped to push further west from Berlin.  

Be interested in any recommended reading that influenced your statement.

I mean, of course all the things you mentioned were important. My opinion is based on raw data: nearly the entire German army was deployed on the Eastern front and Russia sustained something approaching 9 million KIA. Without the tens of thousands of vehicles, along with clothes and food for their army, I don’t think there is any way they hold off the Germans. As horrific as the Russian losses were, it would likely have been multiples of that without lend lease. And then the Germans have all the natural resources they need and the western front is dealing with 4X the number of German soldiers.

You only go for a Patrick Surtain in an underpayment situation, like the AJ Brown deal. At the time, they also needed a 2nd WR. They are fine at CB for now and don't need to overpay for it. Need the draft picks here to build up team depth. That is more important. Howie will most likely make more draft picks out of current stash. Can't take that weapon away from him. We are in a perfect spot now to just finish the job here with the youth movement over the next 2 drafts. Fill in at CB later if the youth doesn't hold up. Need to find out about them first, before throwing great assets out here. In the meantime, Howie needs to stick the plan and stay focused on raiding the Crimson Tide and Bulldog farm teams. While in the pros, ransacking our Titans affilliate opportunistically to fill in. And not to mention, to masterfully continue filling in our depth concerns via the UDFA route. Would be nice to hit on linebacker this offseason.

2 hours ago, bpac55 said:

Russia was essentially the Ukraine of WWII. We gave them so much aid. The biggest thing Russia did on their own was mass produce the T-34 tank and the Yak-1 fighter as well as have enough men willing to fight and die as you stated. The Russian Air Force was then filled out with  P-39 Air Cobra and P-63 King Cobra's given to them via lend-lease with the United States.

Information taken from the US/Russian embassy website:

Even before the United States entered World War II in December 1941, America sent arms and equipment to the Soviet Union to help it defeat the NSDAP invasion. Totaling $11.3 billion, or $180 billion in today’s currency, the Lend-Lease Act of the United States supplied needed goods to the Soviet Union from 1941 to 1945 in support of what Stalin described to Roosevelt as the "enormous and difficult fight against the common enemy — bloodthirsty Hitlerism.”

400,000 jeeps & trucks

14,000 airplanes

8,000 tractors

13,000 tanks

1.5 million blankets

15 million pairs of army boots

107,000 tons of cotton

2.7 million tons of petrol products

4.5 million tons of food

Exactly.

Just the boots — the physical footwear alone — might have made the difference in the war. People talk about tanks and planes, but men fight on their feet. Kind of tough to do in a Russian winter without boots.

I can't envision many, if any, scenarios I'd trade two 1sts for a CB. Even one as good as Surtain.

2 hours ago, bpac55 said:

Yea, I'm trying to play with scenarios in my head to figure out how the money side of things would work. Looking at what contracts expire, who needs to be extended and so on. That's the biggest hurdle. 

2024 UFA- Cox, Kelce, BG, Swift, Scott, Opeta, Albert O, Penny, Bradley, Ellis, Barnett, Mariota, Street, Oz, Morrow, Driscoll, Stoll, Quez, Cunningham, Evans

Out of those players, give me Swift on a 3-year, team friendly deal and one of Bradley/Ellis as LB/ST depth. 

2025 is where things start to happen- Reddick, Sweat, Byard, Maddox, Elliott, Dickerson, Williams, Fred Johnson, McPhearson, Gainwell, Tuipulotu, Patrick Johnson, Jobe, Blankenship. Covey, Isaiah Rodgers.

You can say that maybe 9-10 of those guys are starters. Maddox starts in the slot, Covey is starting PR, Jobe is starting right now.  Out of those guys, Sweat, Elliott and Dickerson are my must have guys. The hope is Nolan Smith replaces Reddick (as good as he's been). Byard is an unknown in this system and will be 32 after 2025 so he's probably gone. Maddox can go after 2023 IMO. Milton Williams is a perfect trade chip based on the talent and expected contracts of Davis/Carter. McPhearson, Gainwell, Tuipulotu, PJ, FJ can go. The hope is Ricks develops and if this is all for Surtain they could be your starting CB and Jobe can go. Blankenship honestly hasn't proven anything to me yet so he isn't a must sign guy yet.

DeVonta Smith will also need his new contract and I hope the Eagles can make him happy enough both money wise and catch volume wise.

It's going to be tricky for sure and that's where Howie is going to earn his paycheck. 

Smith is an interesting question as far as a contract goes. Great player, obviously. But Brown is only 18 months older and clearly a different level of player.

If it comes down to it, I think we could bite the bullet and let him walk. It would suck, but if he wants a mega contract and we are tight on cash, I’d rather keep Brown, extend Dickerson and Sweat, and let Smith walk. 

As good as Smith is, I think his skill set can be replaced, he’s limited by his size, and he doesn’t have game breaking deep speed. So if you have to make hard choices, keep the OL and DL intact and use the opportunity of replacing Smith to improve another aspect of the offense like speed or size at the WR position.

2 minutes ago, TEW said:

Smith is an interesting question as far as a contract goes. Great player, obviously. But Brown is only 18 months older and clearly a different level of player.

If it comes down to it, I think we could bite the bullet and let him walk. It would suck, but if he wants a mega contract and we are tight on cash, I’d rather keep Brown, extend Dickerson and Sweat, and let Smith walk. 

As good as Smith is, I think his skill set can be replaced, he’s limited by his size, and he doesn’t have game breaking deep speed. So if you have to make hard choices, keep the OL and DL intact and use the opportunity of replacing Smith to improve another aspect of the offense like speed or size at the WR position.

I’m overall down on smith this year, for someone who’s supposed to be an amazing route runner, he never seems to be that open, all his catches seem contested, and his hands aren’t that reliable. Love the kid, and I’m sure he will probably go off for 150 this weekend since I said something, but his production can be found for cheaper than what he will want. 

I'd be very surprised if they didn't re-sign Smith. Lurie loves passing and wouldn't want the team to be worse because they let a very good WR walk

Letting smitty walk is beyond foolish. Brown will age out quicker and will want a raise.

dickerson is a must keep. Sweat got paid and isnt a must keep for me. Reddick should get the money

3 minutes ago, Fhalbig22 said:

I’m overall down on smith this year, for someone who’s supposed to be an amazing route runner, he never seems to be that open, all his catches seem contested, and his hands aren’t that reliable. Love the kid, and I’m sure he will probably go off for 150 this weekend since I said something, but his production can be found for cheaper than what he will want. 

Have heard from a few beats that he's been playing through injuries this year. Had his fingers splinted/taped at practice which explains the drops

There is a 0.0% chance of letting Smitty walk. Get real people.

18 minutes ago, TEW said:

Smith is an interesting question as far as a contract goes. Great player, obviously. But Brown is only 18 months older and clearly a different level of player.

If it comes down to it, I think we could bite the bullet and let him walk. It would suck, but if he wants a mega contract and we are tight on cash, I’d rather keep Brown, extend Dickerson and Sweat, and let Smith walk. 

As good as Smith is, I think his skill set can be replaced, he’s limited by his size, and he doesn’t have game breaking deep speed. So if you have to make hard choices, keep the OL and DL intact and use the opportunity of replacing Smith to improve another aspect of the offense like speed or size at the WR position.

Let's keep in mind, AJ is signed til end of 2026 and will be going into age 30 season as a free agent by then. Alot can change. I'd wait on both guys til end. Maybe franchise Devonte for an extra season, which takes you into his age 28 season (end of 2026). Probably pick the better receiver out of the 2 at that time. Perhaps you can keep both and Goedert could be the odd man out in reupping as he enters his age 31 season at end of 2025 season. Some tough calls to make coming up. Player health will certainly play a factor in all of this. I'd be patient if I were Howie as these guys enter their 30's.

Howie is gonna keep all the key guys at premium positions. They will make up for it by going super cheap at the non premium positions.

First big element game of the season??

Smith was the only good WR drafted out of the last like 10 and Howie has always been partial to his draft picks. Don’t see him leaving anytime soon. 

24 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

Letting smitty walk is beyond foolish. Brown will age out quicker and will want a raise.

dickerson is a must keep. Sweat got paid and isnt a must keep for me. Reddick should get the money

Brown is only 18 months older, is way better, is bigger, faster, better after the catch, etc.

Smith isn’t in his league as a player and I doubt Smith reaches Brown’s level, let alone sustains it longer.

Obviously we don’t want to lose Smith, but if it comes down to hard decisions between Smith Dickerson and Sweat, I’m keeping the latter two. Much easier to replace a good, one dimensional #2 WR than the best LG in the NFL or a top tier DE.

Russini:

"The Eagles want to make another move even after adding safety and five-time Titans captain Kevin Byard. I expect Howie Roseman to be busy Monday morning. He’s poking around at linebacker."

I think Jordan Hicks coming back is probably the best bet if the Eagles make any move.

1 minute ago, Sack that QB said:

Russini:

"The Eagles want to make another move even after adding safety and five-time Titans captain Kevin Byard. I expect Howie Roseman to be busy Monday morning. He’s poking around at linebacker."

I think it will be Josey Jewell.  Just not sure what picks we have left to move

Anyone know why the Oklahoma Kansas game is delayed?

3 hours ago, DEagle7 said:

@mattwill 30-17 Eagles

Our D scores points 

This Bonus reminds me of a limerick from my youth

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It's funny that the Broncos are holding out for so much.  On Monday they'll sell or look foolish.  That team stinks.   Vikings are the team that can say they aren't selling unless they are blown away not Dolphins

I wonder if Howie is slick enough or a team is dumb enough to give up a LB in a swap with Barnett.

Russini says Broncos not moving Surtain.