8 minutes ago, QuinnWR4 said:

Yeah I didn’t understand this either. He’s shown flashes of being good on the outside and at the same time JB had been assigned the slot earlier this year and did ok. Why not have Ricks outside and JB inside?

JB did not do ok at all. He was worse than Ricks 

50 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Both starting safeties are gone.  Bradberry, overnight, went from a 2nd team all pro to a legit liability.  And Slay went from a probowler and foundational DB to a quality starter.  Some injuries, but Maddox is always out anyway.

I guess that's how you go from 1 to 32.

Not to mention 2 decent coverage LBs

6 minutes ago, judunno said:

JB did not do ok at all. He was worse than Ricks 

Hmm…maybe I’m remembering that wrong. Wasn’t that the TB game?

There are so many bigger issues than Reed Blankenship. Is he Justin Simmons? No. But he's not Sean Considine either.

If today’s topic is arguing how the pass coverage has looked, I think we should start with talking about the lack of interior pass rush the last couple of weeks. It’s been disappointing 

 

11 minutes ago, QuinnWR4 said:

If today’s topic is arguing how the pass coverage has looked, I think we should start with talking about the lack of interior pass rush the last couple of weeks. It’s been disappointing 

 

Yeah. People were complaining about not finishing sacks on Dak, but the issue was when Reddick or Sweat would win, they could only get a hand on him and there was almost never a DT winning inside to clean it up. 

14 minutes ago, RLC said:

There are so many bigger issues than Reed Blankenship. Is he Justin Simmons? No. But he's not Sean Considine either.

Blame in the secondary has been displaced. Much of the issues have been having no legit slot corner and miscommunication with the DBs who haven't been on the same page. Hopefully post bye they start getting some guys back. Wouldn't mind seeing them bring in Bryce Callahan for depth. The experiments with the other guys at slot have failed miserably.

16 minutes ago, QuinnWR4 said:

If today’s topic is arguing how the pass coverage has looked, I think we should start with talking about the lack of interior pass rush the last couple of weeks. It’s been disappointing 

 

Davis and Baby 🦏 haven't been healthy in weeks so I'm sure that plays into it. Cox has been nicked up too. The bye couldn't have come at a better time. Definitely going to need the second one with the way guys are banged up.

 

26 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

 

Hurts looks pedestrian based on throws to open receivers.

35 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

 

No, I'm pretty sure Purdy is elite and making the skill players around him look good, not the other way around.

1 hour ago, RLC said:

There are so many bigger issues than Reed Blankenship. Is he Justin Simmons? No. But he's not Sean Considine either.

Considine blew tackles like it was going out of style in a league that ran a lot more.  He wasn’t so terrible in coverage.

On 11/8/2023 at 5:17 AM, Wentz_Era said:

True…but this is a blind optimist way of looking at it.  They won Sunday because Dallas was trying harder to lose.  There’s a lot to clean up if we are hoping to be playing football on 11 Feb.

So you believe that winning and losing on Sunday was done on a one way street.  I disagree.  I could see "traffic" going both ways.

1 hour ago, ManuManu said:

Yeah. People were complaining about not finishing sacks on Dak, but the issue was when Reddick or Sweat would win, they could only get a hand on him and there was almost never a DT winning inside to clean it up. 

I dont know what the snap counts were. But it kinda seemed like Milton Williams was way too disruptive in the previous game, so they opted to play Davis on his bum wheel, and Carter without a spine a lot more, over Williams in this game.

 

1 hour ago, ManuManu said:

 

so our WRs separate a lot, but Hurts throws to covered guys more. Makes sense considering how he doesnt mind airing it out to Brown in double coverage.

1 minute ago, HazletonEagle said:

so our WRs separate a lot, but Hurts throws to covered guys more. Makes sense considering how he doesnt mind airing it out to Brown in double coverage.

Or triple 

4 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

I dont know what the snap counts were. But it kinda seemed like Milton Williams was way too disruptive in the previous game, so they opted to play Davis on his bum wheel, and Carter without a spine a lot more, over Williams in this game.

 

They're playing Williams at 4-3 DE at times, at 3-4 DE as well as DT.

2 minutes ago, austinfan said:

They're playing Williams at 4-3 DE at times, at 3-4 DE as well as DT.

Im aware. I just didnt see him as much.  Maybe he just didnt play as well as last week. I noticed the injured guys a lot more.

 

1 hour ago, eagle45 said:

Both starting safeties are gone.  Bradberry, overnight, went from a 2nd team all pro to a legit liability.  And Slay went from a probowler and foundational DB to a quality starter.  Some injuries, but Maddox is always out anyway.

I guess that's how you go from 1 to 32.

Football isn’t a plug and play sport.  It’s more akin to a choreographed show in movement. 8 different secondary alignments with two players who started learning the nickel six weeks ago.  Bradberry excels in tighter zones and knowing where the S will be.  Remember how rough CJGJ looked to start last season?  Now, it is likely that the Eagles start their ninth secondary alignment next game.  But, Roby at nickel has now had weeks in the playbook.  Byard will be in his fourth week in the playbook.  Morrow and Cunningham will be the starters at LB for a while now and thus aligned with the secondary and are showing to be in tune with each other.  I expect we will see some of the stability of the defense of last year show over the second half.   

The Eagles lost both starting Ss and backup from last year, both starting LBs and their primary backup from last year and starter at ILB this year (to injury) , their primary backup at CB and that now included the slot position (to injury) after last year’s (Scott) didn’t work out. A starting S (Evans) to injury also has contributed to the lack of continuity.  All the folks claiming Jobe was better than McPhearson have quieted as have those that proposed Ricks as a starting CB.  I am not condemning either.  Jobe is a capable backup CB with S help.  Ricks may turn into a decent slot CB but is too slow for outside corner.  
Brown is really green at S.  WRs aren’t the only players coming out of college that don’t have complete route trees. DBs have to learn those as well and scout tells too.  Now Howie added two very experienced DBs since Maddox went down and Edmunds exhibited why he is a bit of a bust.  But we saw Byard thrown to the wolves with no experience with the Eagles plays and thus they played real loose zones.  I expect those will tighten and the disguises that were just starting to show before the changes will reappear.  Desai already mixes things up more than Gannon.  Thing with zone is that the player has to know where the other players are by "feel” (something that Nelson was bad at).  

Patience, Grasshopper.

Soon you will be able to focus on the decrease of targets to the TEs.

9 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Im aware. I just didnt see him as much.  Maybe he just didnt play as well as last week. I noticed the injured guys a lot more.

 

75 total defensive snaps.  Not sure what the relative health of these guys was, but Carter's snap count would indicate he and Cox were close to full strength:

 

Interior defensive line

• 55 snaps: Fletcher Cox

• 51 snaps: Jalen Carter

• 28 snaps: Milton Williams

• 18 snaps: Jordan Davis

• 3 snaps: Marlin Tuipiulotu

16 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

so our WRs separate a lot, but Hurts throws to covered guys more. Makes sense considering how he doesnt mind airing it out to Brown in double coverage.

Yeah I'm not sure this is that big of a knock on Hurts. If your #1 is a guy who is going to win most jump balls it makes sense you're going to throw to guys in tight coverage more often. If you had that stat with Tyreek Hill/Jalen Waddle I'd be a bit more concerned. 

9 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

75 total defensive snaps.  Not sure what the relative health of these guys was, but Carter's snap count would indicate he and Cox were close to full strength:

 

Interior defensive line

• 55 snaps: Fletcher Cox

• 51 snaps: Jalen Carter

• 28 snaps: Milton Williams

• 18 snaps: Jordan Davis

• 3 snaps: Marlin Tuipiulotu

Carter looked ineffective early. Better later on. But also, when he and Davis had a chance to chase Dak in space, they both looked slower than expected. In that regard, I think their injuries held them back. I expected a bigger game out of Williams. And more snaps for sure.

2 hours ago, ManuManu said:

In man coverage? Zone coverage? Both?

He is best downhill.  On man or man match he needs to be perfect.  So susceptible on a read at times.   That said, he has excellent instincts so freezing him is hard.  Brown is also best downhill.  But he is learning still so he is thinking more than reacting.  I still think he has great potential. That said, I could see Evans as the third S if he can return. Knee injury but no word on surgery.  May need to get his legs under him.  Personally, I would play Brown as he needs that nickel like experience in the NFL.

6 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

Yeah I'm not sure this is that big of a knock on Hurts. If your #1 is a guy who is going to win most jump balls it makes sense you're going to throw to guys in tight coverage more often. If you had that stat with Tyreek Hill/Jalen Waddle I'd be a bit more concerned. 

If someone wanted to complain and nitpick they could say he forces too many to Brown. But its working because Brown is that good. 

Its way too early for me to know for sure, and I dont think theres any concensus on top CBs yet.

Im kinda feelign like Cooper DeJean is the guy for this secondary. Though there may be better CBs out there, his inside, outside, safety versatility is just what we seem to need right now. 

We have that colts player coming in next year as the nickel. DeJean could start as an outside CB, but give us flexibility to move him wherever the depth is needed, or be used differently in different personnel groupings.