14 hours ago, eagle45 said:

Does anyone seriously think Dallas could even remotely hang with KC in a playoff game??(obviously it would only be SB, but just pretend it’s a divisional game).  

Is there anything that could possibly happen in week 1 that would change that?

Let’s see.  Mahommes lost his best WR two years in a row, KC has been retooling its OL with two downgrades at OT, Dallas upgraded its DL and has Parsons, upgraded its WR group from last year, tried to fix the hole at TE and added Gilmore at CB, allowing Diggs to be CB2, for which he is better suited.  If Prescott can manage games, yes, Dallas can more than remotely hang with KC.  I hate the cowpads with a passion but I am not delusional.

3 minutes ago, austinfan said:

How soon people forget Gainwell's post-season performance.

Gainwell is a fine piece of the puzzle. He's not a lead dog. 

16 hours ago, HazletonEagle said:

It's not about control over a group of people.  That's the racist spin put on it.  It's about the qualification, or lack thereof, of those trying to make decisions. 

The asylum is meant to be run by the people with the training to do so.  The doctors,  clinical staff, and administrators. 

The patients are not oppressed. They are just not qualified to run things. 

I didn't say oppressed. Oppression would suggest an unjust control.  I simply said controlled.  Controlled, as you point out, because they are unqualified to make decisions for their own good.  Asylums are about control of a person.   Their very nature is to take away a person's autonomy and ability to make ordinary decisions in their life.   If you think your employees are analogous with inmates at an asylum that shows a bias. At the very least, you think of them as being unqualified.  

Is that bias a racial one? I don't think it matters because it's still a bad analogy when talking about your employees.  Football players are not untrained and unqualified with respect to the game of football and it's popularity.  It is antagonistic and unnecessary.  

1 minute ago, BigEFly said:

Let’s see.  Mahommes lost his best WR two years in a row, KC has been retooling its OL with two downgrades at OT, Dallas upgraded its DL and has Parsons, upgraded its WR group from last year, tried to fix the hole at TE and added Gilmore at CB, allowing Diggs to be CB2, for which he is better suited.  If Prescott can manage games, yes, Dallas can more than remotely hang with KC.  I hate the cowpads with a passion but I am not delusional.

Yup. Hate Dallas but the Gilmore move if he stays healthy is a really nice acquisition. Makes that defense better, much more dangerous by shifting diggs to no. 2 corner and likely more consistent than they were last year (not as good down the stretch). also think cooks gives Dallas a solid no. 2 to lamb which they didn’t really have last year. 

imo if Dallas loses unless there’s a ton of injuries it’s likely because Dak had a meltdown and mccarthy went full mccarthy. 

2 hours ago, bpac55 said:

That's a good point too. I think the bigger picture is that I don't think we should count on Milton Williams being here long term. Hopefully he takes full advantage of playing with the talent around him and becomes a disruptive player while he's an Eagle though.

Not sure about that.  One of the DL alignments includes a kind of 3/4-4/3 hybrid with Sweat or Graham at DE on one side with Milton as the DE on the other side.  They brought in Street as the back up to Williams for the short term with Ojomo as the long term back up.  The OLB in that scheme will be Reddick with Smith as his back up.  The DT on Sweat’s side frequently is positioned almost like a 3/4 DE some of the time.  At least once last game I saw Smith in place of Sweat but positioned like a 3/4 OLB.   This DL will be interesting to watch.  The question is whether the LBs are up to their gap and coverage responsibilities.

4 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

Let’s see.  Mahommes lost his best WR two years in a row, KC has been retooling its OL with two downgrades at OT, Dallas upgraded its DL and has Parsons, upgraded its WR group from last year, tried to fix the hole at TE and added Gilmore at CB, allowing Diggs to be CB2, for which he is better suited.  If Prescott can manage games, yes, Dallas can more than remotely hang with KC.  I hate the cowpads with a passion but I am not delusional.

It's a long season but the Cowboys did look good on offense and even better on defense.  That being said, it's hard to judge the CBs vs. the trash the Giants have at WR.  It's not like they faced good WRs and a competent passing game.  The Giants offense was outschemed at every turn and looked talentless at every level.  It's clear that they played better than any other team week one but it's also week one.  

1 hour ago, bpac55 said:

All this talk about Swift and Penny needing lighter workloads to keep them healthy and Gainwell is hurt after just 18 touches. He's not a lead back. He should never come close to 18 touches (nearly 35% of the offense). Hopefully there's a heavy does of Swift and Penny tomorrow night and the Eagles realize who needs to be getting the bulk.

With two backs with injury history, I can see the wisdom in not playing them much in a game where the Eagles had the lead throughout and the weather was horrendous with sloppy field conditions.  Frankly, I am not convinced Penney is fully recovered yet.  He looked sluggish in PS.

@mattwill 24-20 Eagles

 

31 minutes ago, austinfan said:

How soon people forget Gainwell's post-season performance.

It was 2 games.

49 minutes ago, TEW said:

No.

I am not making it anything. This is literally what happened. You can ascribe whatever motivation you want to the NFL’s decision. I’m not doing that. I’m just telling you what actually happened.

The NFL decided to water the field, cover it in a tarp to protect it from rehearsals, and then install it in the dome on the Wednesday before the Super Bowl. The field didn’t have a chance to dry because it was taken out of the sun and the tarp trapped the moisture , which actually caused the field to begin to rot.

This was all done against the advice of "the sod father” who, if you read the article I posted, quit in disgust and very publicly stated he was sick of the NFL disregarding what he said.

Well, like I said... the system failed.  So, the fact that you say 'there is a system in place' means nothing if that system is flawed, ignored or just plain sabotaged.  Why it happens doesn't matter.  Also, players have been complaining about field conditions for as long as the sport has existed.  The fields of today are night and day better than the fields of yesteryear where they'd just roll out the astroturf over the concrete like all those combination stadiums, or the old pock ridden fields of Soldier field, etc back in the day.  

There is no perfect solution, but the fields these guys are playing on today are way better than decades gone by.  And then there's the different tastes for different personalities and game types.  Some want the artificial stuff, because they think it gives them an advantage with their speed, cutting, etc.  Others want grass fields only.  You can't please everyone.  

I agree, the NFL screwed up with the field.  And the reason for the screw up is the most frustrating part.  They needed to rehearse on the field.   Nope.  The halftime garbage does not take precedence over, nor should it be allowed to interfere with, the reason that the game is happening.  The Super Bowl is becoming a joke with all the garbage that they've added to it.  The bigger it grows and the more garbage they add to it, the less appealing it actually becomes to me.   Same is true of the draft.  

1 minute ago, Sack that QB said:

It was 2 games.

It was only one game, the Giants game.

Outside of that he went 14 for 48 against SF and 7 for 21 against KC.

 

7 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

With two backs with injury history, I can see the wisdom in not playing them much in a game where the Eagles had the lead throughout and the weather was horrendous with sloppy field conditions.  Frankly, I am not convinced Penney is fully recovered yet.  He looked sluggish in PS.

Tbh I rather them bring penny along slowly and keep him fresh and healthy for December and January. If you get penny to run like he was before he got hurt last year but in December and January that is a huge weapon and advantage for the eagles. 

@mattwill

 

Eagles 20

Vikings 24

 

Justin Jefferson 2 TDs

We're 1-0 and it's a long season but Howie's plan at LB & S is off to a dubious start

 

 

 

9 hours ago, ManuManu said:

In regards to the fourth down, it seems like Hurts decided he was going to Smith no matter what because it was single coverage. Presnap, however, wouldn’t Gonzalez cheating that far inside tell Hurts to look elsewhere? It certainly didn’t help that Smith ran a Reagor-like slant route. 

Very common to throw hot to the backside in a 3x1 when you suspect they're iso'd in man, which was correct. CB knows it's cover 0 so he just needs to react to the first cut by Smith. He knows double-moves are off the table and like you said, he shades inside, probably because they know slant or go are the most likely routes here. He's flat footed at the snap, so he's probably cooked if Smith ran a go instead. Just a shrewd call by BB to take that calculated risk, and good coverage by the CB to be close enough to make a play on the ball. Helps that the timing and throw was off a bit, but hats off to the defense here. I'm not sure Hurts looking playside at the snap changes the outcome given how little time he had to make the read.

36 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Yup. Hate Dallas but the Gilmore move if he stays healthy is a really nice acquisition. Makes that defense better, much more dangerous by shifting diggs to no. 2 corner and likely more consistent than they were last year (not as good down the stretch). also think cooks gives Dallas a solid no. 2 to lamb which they didn’t really have last year. 

imo if Dallas loses unless there’s a ton of injuries it’s likely because Dak had a meltdown and mccarthy went full mccarthy. 

Lamb is nothing more than a solid #2 so they got 2 #2s

And let go your OC who ran the #4 best offense but McCarthy will somehow be better. 

 

We're about to play a week 2 TNF immediately after a bunch of guys get hurt week 1. Week 1 is also the week in the NFL where the most injuries happen.

It's NFL. Next man up.

 

Just now, pgcd3 said:

We're 1-0 and it's a long season but Howie's plan at LB & S is off to a dubious start

 

 

 

look forward to Evans or edmunds starting alongside a rookie in brown. Likely down bradberry as well. All going up against Jefferson who’s the best WR in the league and cousins who outside of last year tends to play well against us. 

Blank isn't playing either? Great plan going cheap Howie. 

5 minutes ago, DaEagles4Life said:

Lamb is nothing more than a solid #2 so they got 2 #2s

Lamb had 1300 yds and 9 TDs last year. Bit of a stretch to call him "nothing more than a solid #2."

7 minutes ago, DaEagles4Life said:

Lamb is nothing more than a solid #2 so they got 2 #2s

I’d argue he’s not hill or Jefferson or even aj brown. But he finished top 10 in every major statistical category for a wr last year. He was 6th in receptions, receiving yards and tds. So no. 2 or no. 1, he was a top 10 wr last year. And that was with cooper rush and Dak who didn’t have a very good year last year. 

5 minutes ago, DaEagles4Life said:

Lamb is nothing more than a solid #2 so they got 2 #2s

And let go your OC who ran the #4 best offense but McCarthy will somehow be better. 

 

Lamb is a WR1 for sure.  More than 1,350 yards last season and a 68.6% catch rate.  I'd argue he's a top 10 guy league-wide.

Moore was let go because Dak regressed last season, and McCarthy either  a) Had concerns with the play calling, or   b) Needed to save his own skin by making a move.  We'll see how it turns out, but I doubt DAL will miss Moore that much.

The DAL-NYG game was more a reflection of the Giants quitting than anything else.  They were driving down the field pretty easily before the implosion on the first drive, the blocked FG TD was a gut punch, and after Barkley's gaffe went for another TD the Giants simply folded up the tent.  Not saying they could have/should have come back to win, but it was concerning they showed no energy or fight at all after that point.

  

8 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

look forward to Evans or edmunds starting alongside a rookie in brown. Likely down bradberry as well. All going up against Jefferson who’s the best WR in the league and cousins who outside of last year tends to play well against us. 

People will get on Desai if it falls apart but it's a tall order to hide this collection of S & LB

16 hours ago, DEagle7 said:

Eh players have been railing against turf for awhile now and there is at least some data (not sure how strong it is tbh) that it can increase certain types of injuries. This isn't a new gripe, it's just bubbling to the surface cause of  Rodgers' injury 

Oh, nothing new about it at all.  Its been a constant gripe.  But, mostly, that's all it is... a gripe.   There's no field that can be used that will eliminate these injuries.  The frequency could be minimized, but it happens and it has happened for as long as the game has been played.   Part of the increase in these injuries is the players today are bigger, stronger, faster... that puts more stress on the ligaments and tendons.  And when the bodies get folded in unnatural ways... they snap.  

 

22 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Yup. Hate Dallas but the Gilmore move if he stays healthy is a really nice acquisition. Makes that defense better, much more dangerous by shifting diggs to no. 2 corner and likely more consistent than they were last year (not as good down the stretch). also think cooks gives Dallas a solid no. 2 to lamb which they didn’t really have last year. 

imo if Dallas loses unless there’s a ton of injuries it’s likely because Dak had a meltdown and mccarthy went full mccarthy. 

Meh - I don't know what to think of their offense.  It was good enough but they didn't light up the scoreboard and put up a bunch of yards.  I expect they will improve but that game was about the turnovers and breakdowns by the Giants.