7 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

Immediately who I thought of.  No disrespect to Reggie, Desean or Dawk, but prime Willie T would be an awesome fit at ILB on this team.  

Loved Willie T but Joyner was better 

He could do it all, great all around LB in his prime.

Just now, Waiting4Someday said:

That was very exciting signing - and a player that still translates very well to today's NFL.

Yup injuries did him in, he retired early was addicted to pain pills.☹️

NFL is brutal...

Yeah, Seth Joyner was better than William Thomas. As in, by a lot. As in, not even close.

I guess Bergey was better, but other than him, Joyner is the best linebacker we've had in the past fifty years.

52 minutes ago, BDawk_ASamuel said:

 College football seems like the last bit of old-school hostility that we have in sports because of the rivalries. I know it's the day and age we're in and it is what it is, but I think the level of intensity in professional sports has dissipated over the years because of how all the athletes are friends now, train together, and go to each others' parties in the offseason.

 

I think in Pro sports free agency has something to do with it. Years ago when players often stayed with a team for most or all of their careers it was easier to engage in tribalism and 'enemies'. Today, this year's 'enemy' might well be next year's team mate.

2 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

The thing is... coaches are friends with other coaches, and they talk all the time and help each other, because they are friends.  Suggesting that people can know their motives is silly.  No one can know another's motive.   But, if Lanning reached back to friends of his at UGA for help, I'm sure they'd help, because of their connection, not because of the opponent.

Absolutely.  I believe Deion even said he does the same thing.  You don't think he's talking to other coaches he knows around the country about USC.

I like Keyshawn but him saying that makes him look extremely stupid.  And of course the casuals online feed right into it.  Now they think the entire coaching community of college football is ganging up on Prime to try to take the black man down.

15 minutes ago, Wentz_Era said:

I’ll take Doc Halladay over Maddux and Verlander any day.

Over Maddux? NFW. Peak Maddux was insane.

2 minutes ago, FranklinFldEBUpper said:

Yeah, Seth Joyner was better than William Thomas. As in, by a lot. As in, not even close.

I guess Bergey was better, but other than him, Joyner is the best linebacker we've had in the past fifty years.

How would Joyner have fared when covering Kittle or Kearse or Goedert?

Same question for Bergey.

2 minutes ago, FranklinFldEBUpper said:

Yeah, Seth Joyner was better than William Thomas. As in, by a lot. As in, not even close.

I guess Bergey was better, but other than him, Joyner is the best linebacker we've had in the past fifty years.

I never saw Bergey play, so Seth is the best eagles LB I've ever seen.

Bergey was pretty good at getting INts though, it was a different game back then so not sure how his game would translate to today but I'm pretty confident Joyner could play in today's game and play well 

He was a rare talent, who should be in the HOF.

1 minute ago, mattwill said:

How would Joyner have fared when covering Kittle or Kearse or Goedert?

Same question for Bergey.

When looking at Willy T's measurables - he is a modern LB; a bit less projection.  Would Seth be a 3-4 edge or a MLB...

2 minutes ago, mattwill said:

How would Joyner have fared when covering Kittle or Kearse or Goedert?

Same question for Bergey.

Kearse???

Not sure probably, with today's rules that give the advantage to offensive players probably about the same as any other LB in today's game.

The best LB in coverage In today's game is probably Fred Warner and I feel comfortable saying Joyner would be just as good as Fred if not better.

 

 

 

Just now, LeanMeanGM said:

 

Did he hurt himself pancaking that guy...

 

6 minutes ago, mattwill said:

How would Joyner have fared when covering Kittle or Kearse or Goedert?

Same question for Bergey.

Bergey was too slow to cover someone like Kittle.  Seth was the best LB with Bergey second.

6 hours ago, rrfierce said:

This game will be a disaster and should not be used as a measuring stick.  Playing two contenders back to back can be demoralizing for a rookie QB.  If you need to take a Sunday off to be on good terms with the wife, this is the one.  34-10 team. 

 

The Bills have an average defense with 2 good LBers and 1 good DE. Eagles have an elite defense that almost broke the sack record last year and now potentially the next Aaron Donald.

 

 

This is going to be ugly.

 

Eagles are a machine with a million ways to beat you on both sides of the ball.  And don't think they've forgotten how we walked into their stadium and took away their undefeated streak last year.  That was a very fluky game that went our way.  Not gonna happen twice.

 

Eagles D line will feast.  

Sam will possibly be sacked more than last week.  YIKES!

Our offense continues to be led with subpar gameplans that don't feature the run, which is the only thing half working right now.  I have no idea why our WRs can't get open.  It's as if we don't even have them on the team.

 

I am nearly certain we lose.  I'm confident we get embarrassed.  

 

Eagles 38

Skins   13  (I could see this even being only 10 points)

@mattwill

15 hours ago, Sack that QB said:

I've been watching baseball for decades. Nola is the best big game pitcher I've ever seen. Comes up big again.

(again. again. again).

Nolan Ryan, Sandy Koufax, Whitey Ford, Randy Johnson, Pedro Martinez, Doc Halliday, Bob Gibson, et al.

1 minute ago, Waiting4Someday said:

Did he hurt himself pancaking that guy...

 

Yea

3 minutes ago, Utebird said:

Kearse???

Not sure probably, with today's rules that give the advantage to offensive players probably about the same as any other LB in today's game.

The best LB in coverage In today's game is probably Fred Warner and I feel comfortable saying Joyner would be just as good as Fred if not better.

 

 

Damn Siri ... Kelce

 

8 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

Over Maddux? NFW. Peak Maddux was insane.

As was Doc.

1 minute ago, BigEFly said:

@mattwill

Not sure how to record that one.  Under "Washington fans"?

8 minutes ago, Waiting4Someday said:

When looking at Willy T's measurables - he is a modern LB; a bit less projection.  Would Seth be a 3-4 edge or a MLB...

Both.

Joyner could do it all.

Line him up off ball in the nickel or a 3-4 and drop him or blitz him through the A gap and he'd excel 

Line him up on the edge and blitz him and he was strong enough and fast enough to get to the QB.

Dude was just a beast, was reported Buddy would line him up at safety occasionally in practice and said he'd dominate there as well 

When Julian Peterson was with the niners they occasionally would like him up at safety and on a few occasions even corner, before Julien  Peterson there was Seth Joyner, he was a pretty dynamic guy.

And to think buddy cut him  in camp...🤷‍♂️

 

2 minutes ago, just relax said:

Nolan Ryan, Sandy Koufax, Whitey Ford, Randy Johnson, Pedro Martinez, Doc Halliday, Bob Gibson, et al.

Gibson heads that list for me.  Carlton isn't far behind Gibson.  But they all are right up there.

1 minute ago, mattwill said:

Gibson heads that list for me.  Carlton isn't far behind Gibson.  But they all are right up there.

Roy Halladay was basically 1972 Steve Carlton for 10 years or so in Toronto…pity he was only on a ‘good team’ for such a short time.  His playoff debut being a no no automatically just bumps him up near the top.

5 hours ago, Ipiggles said:

I find the term ":SWIFTIES" cringy   

Akin to Trekkies of the 70's

Play off of Tom Swifties, from my mother’s childhood.  Enjoyed the books when I was a kid.  The TV show was a typical CW destruction, learned from watching what Disney did to enjoyable adventure stories.  

10 minutes ago, FranklinFldEBUpper said:

Yeah, Seth Joyner was better than William Thomas. As in, by a lot. As in, not even close.

I guess Bergey was better, but other than him, Joyner is the best linebacker we've had in the past fifty years.

I agree.  Joyner was definitely better than Wille T.  However, I think Willie T's game would translate to today's game better than Joyner's... not by a ton, but by a hair.  Willie T was almost playing the big nickel position that they have now.   I think Joyner would be considered 'slow' by today's standards.  He'd likely be considered more of a run stuffer LB and be considered a bit of a liability in the passing game.  (And that's considering that he was actually really good as a pass defender back then.  Today's TEs are much more big WRs than they are the TEs that Joyner faced like Bavaro and Novacek).

5 minutes ago, DrPhilly said:

Bergey was too slow to cover someone like Kittle.  Seth was the best LB with Bergey second.

Trotter was pretty good in coverage before he hurt his knee.

I think he'd hold up well in today's game as well, if a guy like TJ Edwards who is as slow as molasses can start in the NFL teams would find a spot for a beast like trotter at MLB, especially prime trotter, 2000, 2001