1 hour ago, just relax said:

He's a freaking football player. He shouldn't be out there if he's afraid of getting tackled. Let us remember, it's 3rd and two! If he goes straight up the field he's going to get at least 4-5 yards. Even if he only gets two, it's enough. This is a four-point play that fails because he chickened out. I don't know any other way to put it.

 

 

FYI, for future reference, Shift+WindowsKey+S will bring up the snip tool so you can crop screenshots in a single step. That way you don't inadvertently disclose your fetish for red balls or that you have an IRA through vanguard.

3 hours ago, vsptroops said:

Disagree. Harper needs to know the situation. The outfielders were playing no doubles defense which means they were already deep, plus Harris is a damn good centerfielder. At worst, if Harper just stops on second and the ball is dropped, he probably scores anyway because chances are the ball probably ricochets off the wall. If the ball is caught, which it was, he easily gets back to first and then I'll take my chances with Stott coming up. Can't be having baserunning blunders like that in the postseason, especially against a 104-win Braves team. 

I understand your point; however I see that approach as a "playing not to lose” approach.  Bryce was "playing to win” in my opinion.

44 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

How’s that have anything to do about their issues in the red zone? Which is what i specifically discussed. Can say utter nonsense but their red zone offense is 8-19 on the year which is 42%. That’s going to be a problem.   It’s 27th in the league. We can say utter nonsense but you are going to face more prolific offenses and it’s gonna be much harder to win against those teams when you are 2-6 or 1-5 in the red zone. 

Eagles are about to face the 1st, 2nd, 4th and 7th best red zone offensive teams. And the eagles red zone defense hasn’t exactly been great either. They are ranked 30th in the league giving up tds on 75% of red zone trips.  So you can’t stop anybody in the red zone and you’ve dropped from top 5 red zone offenses in 2022 to one of the worst in the league. Having a bad red zone defense with an inconsistent red zone offense is a recipe of potential disaster against better opponents like bills, Miami, Sf and KC.
 

This.  They will be under .500 by the end of this stretch 

I wonder if Watkins if terrified of fumbling so avoids contact. He’s very much reagor is that respect. Add in his drops and you’ve got a pretty useless receiver that only gets in the team because he’s relatively fast. I’d much rather have Greg ward - he’s limited but reliable 

29 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

FYI, for future reference, Shift+WindowsKey+S will bring up the snip tool so you can crop screenshots in a single step. That way you don't inadvertently disclose your fetish for red balls or that you have an IRA through vanguard.

Thank you. I've always used Alt+PrtScr. Your way is much better.

3 minutes ago, mattwill said:

I understand your point; however I see that approach as a "playing not to lose” approach.  Bryce was "playing to win” in my opinion.

Rule #1 as a baserunner- on a flyball, make sure the ball hits the ground before advancing. Rule #2- on a tag up, don't leave the base early before the ball is caught. He violated rule #1. Let's not act like this is his first go around with baserunning blunders. He has many of these throughout the season. I love the guy, and while he is a smart baseball player, he is a dumb baserunner. Anyways, like others have said, there were a multitude of reasons why they lost that game. Hopefully they can take the next 2 and this is all a moot point.

1 minute ago, rrfierce said:

I wonder if Watkins if terrified of fumbling so avoids contact. He’s very much reagor is that respect. Add in his drops and you’ve got a pretty useless receiver that only gets in the team because he’s relatively fast. I’d much rather have Greg ward - he’s limited but reliable 

I've always hated the "we need somebody to take the top off the defense" line. That somebody needs to be able to track and catch the ball, like D. Jackson if that strategy is to hold water. I don't think Watkins strikes fear into any defense because of this speed. I'd rather have a possession type receiver in the slot than him.

14 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

For what?  A half-eaten ham sandwich?

Urlakkerzzz!!!!!

9 minutes ago, mattwill said:

I understand your point; however I see that approach as a "playing not to lose” approach.  Bryce was "playing to win” in my opinion.

Honestly, I can't find anyone to blame for last night.  The buzzsaw of the best team in MLB, by a wide margin, woke up.  They got guys on, hit the way they were capable of, and made an absolutely incredible play in the field.  We pitched well, hit well, and were aggressive on the base paths.  We needed to swing back that horrific loss of momentum and, IMO, the game was almost certainly over anyway if the ball is caught and Harper is sitting on 1st with 2 outs.  The only way that game continues in our favor is if that ball is dropped...so you might as well run the bases accordingly.

37 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

Doesn't really make sense why we aren't using Goedert in the redzone. Maybe that'll change since they're targeting him more overall now

He had the only red zone TD catch last game.  

4 minutes ago, just relax said:

Thank you. I've always used Alt+PrtScr.

Also, the best use of leftover roast chicken is a chicken salad.  I do prefer a standard mayo base for it and will usually keep it pretty straight forward.  You can try something spicier with some siracha and lemon juice along with the mayo.  I also like to add in a diced green pepper.  You can substitute hot pepper relish for the siracha.  

I'm not worried about the RZ offense.  The offense, from the Johnson/Siri/Hurts dynamic, to Hurts, to the pass pro, to the weapons...it just all started off out of whack.  Step by step, it's getting ironed out and they are winning in the process.  I think they need to lighten Swift's touches (I'm the only person on Earth saying that one) by finding more productive snaps from the RB rotation...and they need more reliable productivity, when called upon, from WR3.  But that's IT.  Everything else is going to be perfect.  I'm not worried about the offense.  They've shown the right signs and the right progress.

Defense?  I think the DL is great...edge too, not just the DTs.  Depth at both spots too.  While the DL makes life much easier on these LBs up front, I honestly believe the secondary makes them look worse than they are when handing off assignments in zone coverage.  Overall, I think, by the end of the year, Dean/Morrow/Cunningham can be at an Edwards/White level.  Not great.  Not even that good.  But reasonably effective.  

You guys may call me an absolutist or extremist, but after 5 weeks, I really am honing in all of my critical firepower on the secondary.  I think they are a serious problem that has been underexposed thanks to poor QB-ing and respect/problems accounting for our elite DL.  Players are running free, wide open, at all depths of the field.  They get open early and often.  DL/blitz pressure, drops, and QB misfires stop drives for this defense...good coverage on receivers does not. This is a secondary balanced by an elite drive sustaining, ball controlling offense playing behind an elite front.  I don't think we fully appreciate how truly vulnerable this secondary is.

10 minutes ago, rrfierce said:

I wonder if Watkins if terrified of fumbling so avoids contact. He’s very much reagor is that respect. Add in his drops and you’ve got a pretty useless receiver that only gets in the team because he’s relatively fast. I’d much rather have Greg ward - he’s limited but reliable 

I think you mean Greg Lewis. 

1 minute ago, NCiggles said:

Also, the best use of leftover roast chicken is a chicken salad.  I do prefer a standard mayo base for it and will usually keep it pretty straight forward.  You can try something spicier with some siracha and lemon juice along with the mayo.  I also like to add in a diced green pepper.  You can substitute hot pepper relish for the siracha.  

I make chicken soup. Strip the meat, use the bones for broth. Carrots, celery, onions, garlic, ginger. Bay leaves and tarragon. Simmer for two hours. Cheat by adding a little Better than Bouillon. Add the meat back in with cooked egg noodles (cook the egg noodles separately!!).

Your salad sounds worthy. Anything with sriracha added is good.

30 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

That wasn't a slight... it is what it is.  Scott and Gainwell, Gainwell and Scott.   Neither is a world beater.  Neither is better than Swift.  But, we need to give carries and touches to some RB other than Swift.   I think Gainwell is better than Scott... not by much, but by a small margin.   Clearly, the coaches agree with that.  Scott is in 3rd place on the depth chart, and for whatever reason, Penny is 5th, and there's only 4 guys on the roster!  

 

If I'm the Eagles, I'm looking to upgrade the RB room next year, just as they looked to upgrade it this past offseason going out and grabbing Penny and then trading for Swift.   They hit on one, and seemingly whiffed on the other.

That's all fair but I'll stick to my point.  Come the 2nd half of November we will see Scott start to get time and he will be effective.

9 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Overall, I think, by the end of the year, Dean/Morrow/Cunningham can be at an Edwards/White level.

19 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

I'm not worried about the RZ offense.  The offense, from the Johnson/Siri/Hurts dynamic, to Hurts, to the pass pro, to the weapons...it just all started off out of whack.  Step by step, it's getting ironed out and they are winning in the process.  I think they need to lighten Swift's touches (I'm the only person on Earth saying that one) by finding more productive snaps from the RB rotation...and they need more reliable productivity, when called upon, from WR3.  But that's IT.  Everything else is going to be perfect.  I'm not worried about the offense.  They've shown the right signs and the right progress.

Defense?  I think the DL is great...edge too, not just the DTs.  Depth at both spots too.  While the DL makes life much easier on these LBs up front, I honestly believe the secondary makes them look worse than they are when handing off assignments in zone coverage.  Overall, I think, by the end of the year, Dean/Morrow/Cunningham can be at an Edwards/White level.  Not great.  Not even that good.  But reasonably effective.  

You guys may call me an absolutist or extremist, but after 5 weeks, I really am honing in all of my critical firepower on the secondary.  I think they are a serious problem that has been underexposed thanks to poor QB-ing and respect/problems accounting for our elite DL.  Players are running free, wide open, at all depths of the field.  They get open early and often.  DL/blitz pressure, drops, and QB misfires stop drives for this defense...good coverage on receivers does not. This is a secondary balanced by an elite drive sustaining, ball controlling offense playing behind an elite front.  I don't think we fully appreciate how truly vulnerable this secondary is.

Not the only one…if Penny is not the answer, then deal him and get someone else.  We need Swift healthy in Dec/Jan

Not that I care, but the Cowboys are in the same boat with Pollard.  They are pretty thin.

49 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

I feel like we've been doing a lot less read option this year, which has undoubtedly helped Jalen's development as a pocket passer. But down in the red zone, I'd like to see them go back to some read option stuff. Remembering the first Dallas game last year where they brought AJ in motion, ran the RO, and flipped an easy TD. Inside the 20, and especially the 10, we need those plays with multiple options that put the defense in a bind.

I’m hoping we’ve been saving this stuff for the murderer’s row we face in the middle of our schedule.

1 hour ago, NCiggles said:

I see the hole is shrinking but it's still pretty big. I don't think it's even small for this play.  It would be a better play to throw to AJ, Devonta, Goedert, Swift, Gainwell or Scott.  I still think it's a mental error by him.  He has plenty of space to cut upfield.  His focus should be getting upfield as fast as he can.  He had plenty of opportunity to do so but choose to run outside. 

Absolutely agree with this.  If he ran to the hole and got hit, he is still making it back to the LOS and probably gains at least a yard. But he is the wrong player for this design.  

I'd have to go back and check the numbers but it felt like last season the Eagles were very run heavy in the red zone. They had a ton of explosive plays so a lot of their passing TDs came from outside the red zone. And they were great at running it in the red zone last year.

This year they seem to struggle to run the ball down there. It just hasn't been working as well. I wonder if teams are playing the Eagles differently. Maybe that's just how this team wants to handle the red zone and they want to continue to establish the run down there because that's what seems to always happen. Eagles get down there throwing the ball, then start to run and the drive stalls and they settle for a FG.

Either way, it's on Sirianni. He designs the offense. And he decides what approach they're going to take down there.

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So with Quez I always hear about how he stretches the field.  That's fine let him do that.  Now we're down in and close to the Red Zone what purposes does he have on the field?  That is where you need the quicker guys who can create immediate space or bigger guys who can post up.

Can Morrow/Cunningham be as good as White/Edwards? Of course. They're all below-average players.

1 hour ago, FranklinFldEBUpper said:

I don't really get this narrative that OZ has been some magnet for big plays this year. He caught one long ball on an improvised deep route against the Bucs for a touchdown and he made a clutch first down catch against Washington. As far as I can recall, that's his two positive plays. Two. Meanwhile he also dropped a pretty catchable ball against the Commies that would have resulted in a first down but instead killed the drive.

And I don't mean it as a knock because he hardly played, but he also didn't do anything flashy in preseason either.

It's one thing to say that Quez has disappointed. It's true. But it's another thing altogether to say that OZ has been anything special either.

He also showed a lot of hustle to block for Brown on his long catch against Washington.  He hasn't really been given many opportunities, but he's done more with less opportunity than Watkins has.   Is OZ special?  No.  Is he better than Watkins?  Sure seems to be, but more than that... he's willing.  And that's half the battle.

1 hour ago, LeanMeanGM said:

ESPN decided to do a "Regrading the Robert Quinn trade in 2023" and sent me a notification like it was breaking news. Are they really that desperate to talk about anything?

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