Just now, judunno said:

Not going to open up the intermediate passing games if teams aren't biting on run action. We have a chicken or the egg problem. Solution... run the ball with consistency.

I’d be happy if the middle of the field was an option - feels like we throw outside the numbers like 90%, throw to AJ/Smitty 90%, and with a time to throw over 3s 90%… is this hard to plan against?

With the mad dash to the transfer portal and players entering the draft, world class tweet by Mr. Brooks here.

Speaking of Mr. Brooks, underrated movie with Kevin Costner and Dane Cook.

 

16 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

Disagree. Just posted about this a bit ago. Last year Miles Sanders averaged 5YPC behind a dominant run blocking OL. Every week Mailata and Dickerson were taking souls downfield. Kelce was out in space and moving down field. This year, taking away Swift's two outlier games, they are averaging about 3.7 YPC.

Something is wrong with the team.

There's a big difference in my mind between a dominant running team and a team that runs the ball effectively.  They ran it effectively last year, in large part because Hurts was a bigger threat with his legs.  He can still run between the tackles when he gets the look he likes, but he's not bouncing it outside as much as he did last season, which really limits those option plays.  Part of it could be defenses adjusting, but I think part of it is health.

It also doesn't help that they've played a much tougher schedule of defenses than they did last year.  They've actually moved it at a similarly efficient clip when they've played bad defenses like Washington or even average defenses like the Bucs, Rams, and Bills.

Ross Tucker gentleman. Nothing else to say.

 

Since 1999, how many times have the Eagles fired a coordinator without firing the HC?

Ive got Sean McDermott.  I don’t think they’ve ever done it at OC.

Once time in 24 years.

They aren’t firing either coordinator.

1 minute ago, jmac+djaxallday said:

There's a big difference in my mind between a dominant running team and a team that runs the ball effectively.  They ran it effectively last year, in large part because Hurts was a bigger threat with his legs.  He can still run between the tackles when he gets the look he likes, but he's not bouncing it outside as much as he did last season, which really limits those option plays.  Part of it could be defenses adjusting, but I think part of it is health.

It also doesn't help that they've played a much tougher schedule of defenses than they did last year.  They've actually moved it at a similarly efficient clip when they've played bad defenses like Washington or even average defenses like the Bucs, Rams, and Bills.

@ManuManu just pointed out the same thing about Hurts and I agree, that's a big part of the running game. With that being said, the Eagles are touted as having the best OL in the NFL and Stoutland University on their staff. 4 YPC is the measuring point for an average running game. They can't even get that. Either the OL is overrated or there are bigger issues.

3 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Not true.  Because if it were that, he'd have mentioned that during the presser not about 'players needing to determine outcomes', etc.    This looks and sounds like some spin doctoring.

 I don't know if that is not not true bc a lot of times players and coaches give vague answers. If that possible missed call was the reason he was mad I doubt he would outright rip the officiating considering his favorable treatment in critical moments of past games. 

1 minute ago, eagle45 said:

Since 1999, how many times have the Eagles fired a coordinator without firing the HC?

Ive got Sean McDermott.  I don’t think they’ve ever done it at OC.

Once time in 24 years.

They aren’t firing either coordinator.

I don’t think they should fire either one anyway. 

🤣

 

3 minutes ago, pisceschica said:

 I don't know if that is not not true bc a lot of times players and coaches give vague answers. If that possible missed call was the reason he was mad I doubt he would outright rip the officiating considering his favorable treatment in critical moments of past games. 

 

He was ripping the officiating in the PC about the call on Toney.  He was talking about how they had to let the players dictate the outcome of the game, etc.   He didn't mention someone else being offsides that I heard.  

1 minute ago, bpac55 said:

@ManuManu just pointed out the same thing about Hurts and I agree, that's a big part of the running game. With that being said, the Eagles are touted as having the best OL in the NFL and Stoutland University on their staff. 4 YPC is the measuring point for an average running game. They can't even get that. Either the OL is overrated or there are bigger issues.

It’s really hard to run out of the shotgun when teams don’t have to overcommit to the QB. It changes the math tremendously, and it’s an easy scheme to defend. The Bengals had to run out of the gun when Burrow got hurt and struggled mightily. 

Just now, Iggles_Phan said:

 

He was ripping the officiating in the PC about the call on Toney.  He was talking about how they had to let the players dictate the outcome of the game, etc.   He didn't mention someone else being offsides that I heard.  

ok I was wrong..I did not know he was ripping officiating about a clear and obvious offsides call. 

11 minutes ago, judunno said:

Not going to open up the intermediate passing games if teams aren't biting on run action. We have a chicken or the egg problem. Solution... run the ball with consistency.

As I mentioned to @bpac55 , one of the major issues with the run game is Hurts lack of burst/mobility compared to last season.  He went from a guy who could outrun a lot of linebackers to the edge to a guy that gets tracked down by lineman.  This would be OK if the Eagles were the type of power running team people think they are, but they're not.  Swift isn't a tough enough runner to gain more than a couple yards between the tackles against good defenses, so all you're going to do by running him on first down and second is create more situations where you have to throw.  They need to be able to throw it for 5-7 yards on early downs to open up those running lanes.

23 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

Disagree. Just posted about this a bit ago. Last year Miles Sanders averaged 5YPC behind a dominant run blocking OL. Every week Mailata and Dickerson were taking souls downfield. Kelce was out in space and moving down field. This year, taking away Swift's two outlier games, they are averaging about 3.7 YPC.

Something is wrong with the team.

You could see something was wrong when Elliot saved the day vs Buffalo with Kelce and Hurts looking like their dog just died.

  

3 minutes ago, judunno said:

I don't know if you noticed bur Siri has the call sheet as well all game. Im not convinced bringing anyone else in changes things.

He is the issue as well and Howie and Jeff need to step in. He's never been good at calling plays

8 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Since 1999, how many times have the Eagles fired a coordinator without firing the HC?

Ive got Sean McDermott.  I don’t think they’ve ever done it at OC.

Once time in 24 years.

They aren’t firing either coordinator.

Juan Castillo. Mike Groh. 

9 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Since 1999, how many times have the Eagles fired a coordinator without firing the HC?

Ive got Sean McDermott.  I don’t think they’ve ever done it at OC.

Once time in 24 years.

They aren’t firing either coordinator.

Castillo

Yep, all Kelce.

 

2 minutes ago, Wentz_Era said:

Castillo

Yup, and that was midseason.  

14 minutes ago, jmac+djaxallday said:

There's a big difference in my mind between a dominant running team and a team that runs the ball effectively.  They ran it effectively last year, in large part because Hurts was a bigger threat with his legs.  He can still run between the tackles when he gets the look he likes, but he's not bouncing it outside as much as he did last season, which really limits those option plays.  Part of it could be defenses adjusting, but I think part of it is health.

It also doesn't help that they've played a much tougher schedule of defenses than they did last year.  They've actually moved it at a similarly efficient clip when they've played bad defenses like Washington or even average defenses like the Bucs, Rams, and Bills.

They were actually running the ball ok vs Dallas. One big chunk run from Swift and suddenly it looks dominant. He was very close to braking a few just needed more opportunities 

7 hours ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

It is yes… But being blown out by your 2 conference rivals is really bad. I’m not sure why some aren’t really concerned about it?

Simple, just look at the schedule and the records. Five straight game of the week games and the other teams have had far more rest the last three weeks. It makes a big difference. We still control the East and the #2 seed with #1 seed in sight and we are healthy. 

1 hour ago, Freshmilk said:

And Hurts getting hit when he slid and was clearly on the ground should have been called-though Lane didn't get called for an obvious hold on that same play.  But QBs are not supposed to take a hit once they slide

Refs also Fed us on the brotherly shove play again. At this point Lurie needs to contact the league and say something to them

1 minute ago, DrPhilly said:

Simple, just look at the schedule and the records. Five straight game of the week games and the other teams have had far more rest the last three weeks. It makes a big difference. We still control the East and the #2 seed with #1 seed in sight and we are healthy. 

If they come out and look competent against Seattle, I will feel better.   Until they do... there is major cause for concern.

 

I guess we'll find out in 7 days.

Firing a coordinator for a 10-3 team with 4 weeks left in the regular season is dumb. Once we hit the off-season, all bets are off.

51 minutes ago, BDawk_ASamuel said:

 

I bet he didn't get any coffee.