We're bad on 3rd down and in the red zone. Those are the most high variance events. Showing any improvement is game-changing.

1 minute ago, RLC said:

We're bad on 3rd down and in the red zone. Those are the most high variance events. Showing any improvement is game-changing.

Yup.   Getting off the field and giving up points... 1st and 2nd down don't even need to be adjusted much at all.  They've been pretty good in 1st and 2nd downs, and have set up a bunch of 3rd and relatively longs... which teams are converting WAY too much and WAY too easily.

Witherspoon and Adams didn’t practice all week and are questionable for seattle. Big loss for seattle if Witherspoon is out. Adams is a bigger loss for us as he’s not good and we don’t get to face him 

@mattwill

PHI - 30

SEA - 13

PHI - 2 INTs

 

29 minutes ago, pisceschica said:

And will come out slinging it 

You're probably not wrong.

4 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Witherspoon and Adams didn’t practice all week and are questionable for seattle. Big loss for seattle if Witherspoon is out. Adams is a bigger loss for us as he’s not good and we don’t get to face him 

Adams is good against the run usually, brings a load, bad against the pass. If he’s out it will help the run game.

Oh great. Another rain game today.

4 minutes ago, BDawk_ASamuel said:

 

Freaking gold.

If Drew Lock is starting at QB, there are no excuses for the Eagles tonight.  No way should SEA put up more than 14 points.

@mattwill

Making a change based on the weather, coaching changes and QB uncertainty

Eagles 27

Seahawks 16

Eagles get 4+ sacks

27 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

It's been asked repeatedly what Patricia can do to improve things and most of the people asking that seem to think that the answer is "nothing" (or at least, "Nothing of consequence").

 

Initially my thought was just having the defense be more effective on 3rd downs would be a massive improvement over what we've seen recently.  And having had a night to consider it, I think that the answer might actually be rather simple.   The front end of the defense and the back end of the defense have seemed very disjointed.   This team needs to play better 'complementary' football on the defensive side.  Right now we have a pass rush that's playing the game isolated from the back 7.  (Almost to a certain extent it reminds me a little of the Jim Washburn error.).  Our pass rush can only be effective when they have a chance to get home, and disrupt the QB.  BUT... the DBs are constantly playing way off in coverage.   That's a disaster.  This gives the QBs easy pitch and catch completions, and if they hit them in stride, now the DBs are chasing them at full speed through wide open zones.   I think the easiest fix is to change the alignments and keep the CBs up closer to the LOS... play more bump and run and get more physical with the WRs.   This will throw off timing routes and make the QB react more to where the WRs actually are in their routes than they have been.  Recently its been as easy as doing a quick pre-snap read, predetermining where to go with the ball... and getting it out before the DL really has a chance to get there.    That needs to be changed.  And while there's inherent risk for bigger plays if the DBs whiff on their assignment with the bump and run... there's also greater upside potential for the DL to do their job and disrupt the QB.  

Our current crop of DBs might also be much better playing physical and trying to disrupt routes than they would be at trying to mirror routes and staying in phase.  We'll see how this turns out tonight.

This has been my biggest frustration all year -- we get pressure, but Desai is so scared of getting beat over the top the underneath throws are there in less than 2.5 seconds. Add on top of that, the D-line seems to get frustrated not getting home, lose pass rush discipline, and all of a sudden QBs are extending plays. My other hatred is that every time the LBs are walked up, we are dropping out; if we blitz, they are coming from 6 yards off the ball. 

11 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

If Drew Lock is starting at QB, there are no excuses for the Eagles tonight.  No way should SEA put up more than 14 points.

our team is very famous for making a no name QB look like a probowler.

 

44 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

No - but my guess is he will be a potential candidate to go to Green Bay before we hire him.  

Like someone mentioned earlier if Quinn gets a HC job then Cowboys will most likely promote him.

2 minutes ago, 315Eagles said:

Like someone mentioned earlier if Quinn gets a HC job then Cowboys will most likely promote him.

Option 2... depending on his contract status... he could go with Quinn.

 

 

@vikas83  On a scale from 1 to Vivek Ramiswamy, how much shame has the demotion of Desai brought to your people?

Lmao bills Twitter was on fire yesterday 

 

Please go listen to the Philly Special podcasts with Sheil Kapadia.  He lays out the issues pretty clearly. 

The Eagles have been an above average defense on 1st and 2nd downs, according to success rate.  (Success rate is when a play does what is expected in terms of yardage.  2 yards on first down isn't a success.  2 yards on 3rd-and-1 is a success.)

They have been abysmal on third down.  Why?  Our pressure and sack rates on those downs are last or near-last in the league.  And it's not because the ball is getting out quickly.  Desai had been doing a good job of mixing coverages.  The secondary had been doing a decent job of getting QBs to their second reads.  The front four just isn't winning their 1v1s.  Or taking the QB down.  Or rushing with discipline.

This defense ONLY works if the front four delivers.  They haven't been.  Maybe they are just tired.  

4 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

@vikas83  On a scale from 1 to Vivek Ramiswamy, how much shame has the demotion of Desai brought to your people?

Zero. Indian people don't believe in Affirmative Action or DEI. We believe in results. 

I'd have fired him myself.

Also, Indian kids are supposed to be doctors or engineers. He was already a disappointment to his mother.

So are we thinking fired head coach for DC? Eberflus makes sense. Saleh would be nice. 

32 minutes ago, BDawk_ASamuel said:

 

5 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

Please go listen to the Philly Special podcasts with Sheil Kapadia.  He lays out the issues pretty clearly. 

The Eagles have been an above average defense on 1st and 2nd downs, according to success rate.  (Success rate is when a play does what is expected in terms of yardage.  2 yards on first down isn't a success.  2 yards on 3rd-and-1 is a success.)

They have been abysmal on third down.  Why?  Our pressure and sack rates on those downs are last or near-last in the league.  And it's not because the ball is getting out quickly.  Desai had been doing a good job of mixing coverages.  The secondary had been doing a decent job of getting QBs to their second reads.  The front four just isn't winning their 1v1s.  Or taking the QB down.  Or rushing with discipline.

This defense ONLY works if the front four delivers.  They haven't been.  Maybe they are just tired.  

The thing which stands out while watching the game is the undisciplined rush by the front 4. The 3rd down conversions almost always come from a QB extending the play it feels like. The front 4 aren't rushing together -- it's everyone for themselves.