42 minutes ago, judunno said:

What's this news about John Ross ... I'm a little late?

To address @eagle45’s concern about speed, he is participating in the rookie camp.

Like the Becton signing. Now go get Connor Williams and suddenly you're a lot deeper on the OL.

2 hours ago, Sack that QB said:

The Sixers didn't collapse, they aren't good or healthy enough. The problem is fans convince themselves before the playoffs every year that they are good enough. They were not going to win this series or accomplish anything with their most important player on one leg. Was never in the cards. What's happening is exactly what's supposed to be happening.

Yeah... except this failure has nothing to do with Embiid's limitations and everything to do with the fact that they refuse to rebound... and have no bench.  

Buddy Heild becoming the invisible man really sunk them... they needed a scoring presence with Embiid on the bench.  They got nothing.  We saw in the play in game that they needed a big contribution from somewhere else.  Batum gave them that in the play in.   They've been missing that in each game they lost.  In the game they won, Embiid dropped 50+.  This isn't about his injury, its about... once again... ROSTER CONSTRUCTION.

8 minutes ago, D-Shiznit said:

I like it!

There we go. Backup OT was a major hole on the team and one injury to either Mailata or Johnson would put the team in a real bind. Good to see Howie is always working. Who knows if this move works out but once they didn't get the type of depth they wanted in the draft, sensible to take a bit of flyer on a kid who hasnt worked out at all but has some great tools and see if you can coach him (and if he can stay healthy)   

6 minutes ago, RLC said:

It doesn't always work out, but sometimes I'm right😅

Do I get half credit for recognizing that there were free agent OTs available to sign? 

I'm going to double down on my "play Steen at guard" take. He's athletic enough. He's physical enough. He has an entire year in the Stoutland system.

If he fails he fails. But you have to let him play and figure it out. 

2 minutes ago, justwinbaby said:

Howie special!

IF he can stay healthy then great. He had cartilage damage and then an avulsion fracture of his right kneecap

2 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

Like the Becton signing. Now go get Connor Williams and suddenly you're a lot deeper on the OL.

I think they will be comfortable with what they have on the interior with Hennessy plus one of the prospects in Keegan/McMahon. 

6 minutes ago, Aerolithe_Lion said:

Mekhi Becton JUST turned 25 in April. Dude is nearly as young as some of the guys drafted this weekend.

Still young enough to attend Stoutland university and come out on the other side

Let's hope it works out better than it did with the incredible bulk... Chance Warmack.  

I am quite optimistic though.  But, I was optimistic about Warmack too.  🤷‍♂️

6 minutes ago, kiwieagle said:

I don't think they will get rid of Gainwell this year but I dont see him being resigned and back on the team next year.

They can probably stash the bigger back (Milton or Davis-Price) on the PS at least to start the season and then bring up if there are injuries at the position.

I would love the RB depth chart to read Barkley, Shipley, and either the guy from SF or Milton.

Its the most balanced. Shipley is way better than Gainwell and better equipped to fill in for Barkley if need be due to injury, and the 3rd guy can be our short yardage guy.  Which leaves no role for Gainwell.

Agree with you though. Their loyalty will likely keep Gainwell on the roster. 

Hasn't he had conditioning issues too?

12 minutes ago, justwinbaby said:

Haven't followed him since he was drafted. How's he been? 

He's a 25 year old former first round pick at OT... that's available to sign a cheap one year deal AFTER the draft.  Does that answer your question?   

 

Here is a segment with these guys talking about Shipley pre-draft. Curly haired dufus doesnt think he is fast. Balding guy is spot on. From the comparison, to the annoyance that people dont know how comparisons work. And then it gets more interesting when the talk about GAS, which I dont fully understand, but these guys seem to think its highly predictive based on other videos I have seen.

 

Becton is talented, but still raw. His size always means he's able to lose slowly. 

Good GM theory is picking on bad GMs. Look at our best free agency signings/trades...often taking good players from bad teams. 

2 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

Hasn't he had conditioning issues too?

If the Eagles feel comfortable bringing him in, I'm ignoring all of his issues and looking at the what could be now that he is coming in to a great culture and OL staff. He can learn from Lane, Mailata and Dickerson on what it takes to be an Eagles OL. He has the best OL coach in the NFL here to mold him. 

If he can't cut it, he can't. But if the Eagles can tap in to his potential, they may have just answered the question of who replaces Lane down the road. I know that's a HUGEEEE reach but taking a risk on a 1st round talent always gets me excited about the possibilities. 

7 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

IF he can stay healthy then great. He had cartilage damage and then an avulsion fracture of his right kneecap

  A what? 

4 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

He's a 25 year old former first round pick at OT... that's available to sign a cheap one year deal AFTER the draft.  Does that answer your question?   

 

So he's a HOFer? Haha I was more curious about if it was due to underachieving or injuries but I could have been more clear

2 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

  A what? 

It was on his wiki lol

Had to google what it meant

Patellar avulsion fractures are injuries in which a fragment of the patella detaches from the main bone due to the excessive pull of the quadriceps tendon or patellar ligament. They are relatively rare compared to other types of patellar fractures.

Just now, Mike030270 said:

It was on his wiki lol

Had to google what it meant

Patellar avulsion fractures are injuries in which a fragment of the patella detaches from the main bone due to the excessive pull of the quadriceps tendon or patellar ligament. They are relatively rare compared to other types of patellar fractures.

Thanks.  I know now, but still don't understand.    

4 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

If the Eagles feel comfortable bringing him in, I'm ignoring all of his issues and looking at the what could be now that he is coming in to a great culture and OL staff. He can learn from Lane, Mailata and Dickerson on what it takes to be an Eagles OL. He has the best OL coach in the NFL here to mold him. 

If he can't cut it, he can't. But if the Eagles can tap in to his potential, they may have just answered the question of who replaces Lane down the road. I know that's a HUGEEEE reach but taking a risk on a 1st round talent always gets me excited about the possibilities. 

He may not even make the roster. This is a smart signing where if it pays off, you have your #3 tackle for the year with potential to be more and if not all you have lost is having a look at some bottom of the roster limited athlete dude over the summer who would have been here instead of him

1 minute ago, kiwieagle said:

He may not even make the roster. This is a smart signing where if it pays off, you have your #3 tackle for the year with potential to be more and if not all you have lost is having a look at some bottom of the roster limited athlete dude over the summer who would have been here instead of him

I'm sure there's guaranteed money in there. Howie probably isn't paying him a lot but I'd bet that a few million is guaranteed

51 minutes ago, judunno said:

Can he still be a PS guy?

I think everyone can be a PS guy under new rules

4 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Thanks.  I know now, but still don't understand.    

If you put some scotch tape between 2 pieces of paper, and pull the paper apart, will you tear the tape? Or will it tear a little piece of paper off?

When the tape tears, that is like a ligament tearing. Or a tendon tearing. 

Occasionally, the ligament, or tendon stays intact, but pulls a piece of bone off of its attachment site. Thats like the tape ripping the paper.

The effect is the same as tearing the tendon or ligament. If it is not attached, it can not do its job. But, technically its not torn. The nice thing is that you just need the bone to heal. Thats usually a much shorter recovery timeline than needing surgery to repair a tendon or ligament.

Sometimes an avulsion fracture does still need surgery to tack it back down if the bone fragment is pulled too far from its home and looks like it wont just heal back on its own. But its still just bone healing timeline which is far better than ligament healing timeline.

 

Avulsion fractures happen commonly in ankle sprains. Lots of people probably have them and never know. Just think theyve sprained the ankle. The can also happen with a quad or hip flexor strain when the pain is way up by the hip bone rather than at the muscle belly. As well as hamstrings when the pain is right up by your butt sitting bone rather than in the muscle belly. They also happen commonly in fingers leading to jersey finger, or mallet finger. 

1 minute ago, HazletonEagle said:

If you put some scotch tape between 2 pieces of paper, and pull the paper apart, will you tear the tape? Or will it tear a little piece of paper off?

When the tape tears, that is like a ligament tearing. Or a tendon tearing. 

Occasionally, the ligament, or tendon stays intact, but pulls a piece of bone off of its attachment site. Thats like the tape ripping the paper.

The effect is the same as tearing the tendon or ligament. If it is not attached, it can not do its job. But, technically its not torn. The nice thing is that you just need the bone to heal. Thats usually a much shorter recovery timeline than needing surgery to repair a tendon or ligament.

Sometimes an avulsion fracture does still need surgery to tack it back down if the bone fragment is pulled too far from its home and looks like it wont just heal back on its own. But its still just bone healing timeline which is far better than ligament healing timeline.

Wow... that's actually a great analogy!   I was today years old when I learned... 👍

10 hours ago, bpac55 said:

Clemson just hasn't been the same on offense the last 2 years. Basically since Trevor Lawrence left, they've been a trainwreck. Will Shipley has been the one consistent piece for them. The supporting cast around him hasn't been great and defenses could key on him too. He's not a huge game breaking threat but he's steady, reliable and good in all 3 facets of the game. He doesn't have to come off the field.

Kendall Milton is no slouch either. I like him as an UDFA and think he can easily earn a spot. 

I’m going back now catching up. Clemson hasn’t been the same since after their natty. Lawrence included…who I’d argue has regressed since his fresh year. Dabo to me now is essentially James Franklin who got lucky for a stretch with talent that didn’t need molding.