January 23, 20241 yr Author 22 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said: Two new coordinators vying for alame duck he’d coaches job in the final year of his contract. What could possibly go wrong? If they get two respected seasoned coordinators (e.g. Rivera and Reich) and still fail then obviously signs point directly to Sirianni and Howie (for failing to put together a more competitive roster).
January 23, 20241 yr 20 hours ago, time2rock said: Jeff Lurie: Let's fire our super bowl winning head coach because he wants to pick his own coordinators who I hate. Also Jeff Lurie: Let's Interview Doug's fired DC!
January 23, 20241 yr I'm probably in the minority here, but I don't think Johnson was a complete flop as the OC. I think there were some obvious flaws, but I think he will turn into an excellent OC over the next couple of years and maybe even get a legitimate HC shot. I think he had stretches of games where he called plays really well but was stumped in certain situations when things stopped working. With another season or two of experience he will find a groove and get another chance. I'm getting McDermott flashbacks where it was clear he wasn't exactly 'ready' but was fantastic with the Panthers.
January 23, 20241 yr Author 28 minutes ago, Mat said: I'm probably in the minority here, but I don't think Johnson was a complete flop as the OC. I think there were some obvious flaws, but I think he will turn into an excellent OC over the next couple of years and maybe even get a legitimate HC shot. I think he had stretches of games where he called plays really well but was stumped in certain situations when things stopped working. With another season or two of experience he will find a groove and get another chance. I'm getting McDermott flashbacks where it was clear he wasn't exactly 'ready' but was fantastic with the Panthers. You could be right but it was a dumb hire from the start for a team coming off a Super Bowl appearance with what was perceived as a wide open window - there was no room for someone to be learning on the job in that situation. It would maybe be different if Sirianni was some offensive guru who could have guided him more but that simply isn't the case (he obviously had zero answers as well). We should have hired an OC with significant experience and demonstrated creativity to maximize our chances of another shot at a championship.
January 23, 20241 yr 57 minutes ago, Mat said: I'm probably in the minority here, but I don't think Johnson was a complete flop as the OC. I think there were some obvious flaws, but I think he will turn into an excellent OC over the next couple of years and maybe even get a legitimate HC shot. I think he had stretches of games where he called plays really well but was stumped in certain situations when things stopped working. With another season or two of experience he will find a groove and get another chance. I'm getting McDermott flashbacks where it was clear he wasn't exactly 'ready' but was fantastic with the Panthers. I don't know how any OC can keep his job when an opposing defense runs zero blitz time after time and there are no routes designed to take advantage of the middle of the field. Perhaps there was a lot more going on here behind the scenes, because I just can't fathom that BJ (or ANY offensive philosophy) favors attacking a zero blitz with longer developing vertical routes as the only option.
January 23, 20241 yr For the love of god please let the new OC know how to run a RB screen and not like WR screens.
January 23, 20241 yr 19 minutes ago, 20dawk4life said: Looking at the chiefs coaching staff and Todd Pinkston is their RB coach. but they're in the conference title games 2 years in the row though lol.
January 23, 20241 yr 3 hours ago, time2rock said: If they get two respected seasoned coordinators (e.g. Rivera and Reich) and still fail then obviously signs point directly to Sirianni and Howie (for failing to put together a more competitive roster). Which means two wasted years. One dealing with lame duck Siri and one with a freshman head coach. How often does replacing two coordinators in the same season lead to Super Bowl seasons?
January 23, 20241 yr 2 hours ago, Mat said: I'm probably in the minority here, but I don't think Johnson was a complete flop as the OC. I think there were some obvious flaws, but I think he will turn into an excellent OC over the next couple of years and maybe even get a legitimate HC shot. I think he had stretches of games where he called plays really well but was stumped in certain situations when things stopped working. With another season or two of experience he will find a groove and get another chance. I'm getting McDermott flashbacks where it was clear he wasn't exactly 'ready' but was fantastic with the Panthers. I don’t think Johnson was great, but there were far more issues on this team that weren’t related to him. Two new coordinators and yet another coordinator change for Hurts who has spent most of his college and professional career with new coordinators. This is the fatal flaw of a head coach that’s clueless about calling plays. At least if an OC gets hired the HC and the QB shouldn’t lose any of their connections between one another. Really for anyone to think this thing will simply work because a veteran coordinator shows up they haven’t been paying attention to this football team.
January 23, 20241 yr 3 hours ago, Godfather said: Bye bye QB1 butt buddy Yup and I’m sure a new coordinator who knows nothing about Jalen will walk in here and fix everything!
January 23, 20241 yr 2 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said: Yup and I’m sure a new coordinator who knows nothing about Jalen will walk in here and fix everything! He already knows QB1 is an arsehole, has regressed, and mechanics this year were bad. He's already ahead of the game
January 23, 20241 yr On 1/22/2024 at 12:02 AM, Talonblood said: They didn't fire Johnson because they are waiting to see if he gets a head coaching job. If he gets hired as a head coach, then they don't need to do anything. Every minute wasted. Here we go again down the path to get coordinators who don’t want to be a part of Howie/Jeff dysfunction only to end up with the bottom of the barrel guys. This will not end well.
January 23, 20241 yr 1 minute ago, Godfather said: He already knows QB1 is an arsehole, has regressed, and mechanics this year were bad. He's already ahead of the game Problem is it’s going to take him at least a year to fix it. By then he will be fired.
January 23, 20241 yr 1 minute ago, EazyEaglez said: Problem is it’s going to take him at least a year to fix it. By then he will be fired. Some things are not fixable. Like QB1 being an arsehole
January 23, 20241 yr 1 minute ago, Godfather said: Some things are not fixable. Like QB1 being an arsehole Well I guess that goes for Howie’s last two drafted quarterbacks. Maybe the issues are bigger than the coaches, but Lurie’s never going to axe his yes man now will he?
January 23, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, EazyEaglez said: Seems like trouble in perfect paradise. I’m sure everything will be fine. Whoever the DC is will want his own staff.
January 23, 20241 yr 47 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said: Well I guess that goes for Howie’s last two drafted quarterbacks. Maybe the issues are bigger than the coaches, but Lurie’s never going to axe his yes man now will he? Probably not. That's his butt buddy
January 23, 20241 yr 52 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said: Every minute wasted. Here we go again down the path to get coordinators who don’t want to be a part of Howie/Jeff dysfunction only to end up with the bottom of the barrel guys. This will not end well. It's more problematic that they aren't really hired by the HC. That's a massive "who do I work for" circle jerk that no one enjoys. If they don't want Sirianni to run the show (and he probably can't), they should just move on from him and hire someone who can....if either of them can stand that type of personality. Geez. What a mess.
January 23, 20241 yr 51 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said: Well I guess that goes for Howie’s last two drafted quarterbacks. Maybe the issues are bigger than the coaches, but Lurie’s never going to axe his yes man now will he? That position already holds too much power, then we have a FO that just enables them to become a pain in the ass. In both cases, Howie thought he was the smartest guy in the draft getting them and then he let them both take over with cap controlling contracts. I hate that the NFL doumps so much cash into these unproven players.
January 23, 20241 yr How crazy would it be to have Bieniemy and his ex-hc (Rivera) as DC. Honestly not sure how EB not getting HC calls.
January 23, 20241 yr On 1/19/2024 at 7:35 PM, Talonblood said: He had scrub players in San Diego. He excelled with good offensive players with the Eagles, an helped Pederson by adding down field plays. Pederson was West Coast dink and dunk, Reich brought in the the vertical game, were, in the playoffs and Super Bowl, Nick Foles used THAT long yard/long gains/vertical game to win it all. And that Chargers team had one foot out the door in San Diego (they were the only teams the Browns beat in a two-year stretch or otherwise they would have had back-to-back 0-16 seasons), they would be in LA (actually Inglewood) the following season.
January 23, 20241 yr 6 hours ago, Mat said: I'm probably in the minority here, but I don't think Johnson was a complete flop as the OC. I think there were some obvious flaws, but I think he will turn into an excellent OC over the next couple of years and maybe even get a legitimate HC shot. I think he had stretches of games where he called plays really well but was stumped in certain situations when things stopped working. With another season or two of experience he will find a groove and get another chance. I'm getting McDermott flashbacks where it was clear he wasn't exactly 'ready' but was fantastic with the Panthers. Dude couldn't figure out how to scheme against the blitz. How he became in charge of an NFL offense is flat out amazing.
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