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Ongoing Eagles New Discussion volume 2

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Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

Hurts can't handle a "superior O" He has physical skills but not much upstairs to handle the complicated plays and why we pulled him back to "game manager". They pretty much gave up tying to teach him,so this is the best Hurts we will see. Thankfully Howie surrounded him with talent so he can't fail

Not coaching our O to grow…is exactly the drawback of Siri’s one step at a time approach.

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1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Not coaching our O to grow…is exactly the drawback of Siri’s one step at a time approach.

Most of our O are vets. Which young guys are NOT growing??? We didn't draft any high O picks,so we can't tell who is or is not growing on the PS since they don't play

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4 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Not coaching our O to grow…is exactly the drawback of Siri’s one step at a time approach.

It's the same for every other team in the league. What year should we be planning for?

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11 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Hurts can't handle a "superior O" He has physical skills but not much upstairs to handle the complicated plays and why we pulled him back to "game manager". They pretty much gave up tying to teach him,so this is the best Hurts we will see. Thankfully Howie surrounded him with talent so he can't fail

If you noticed we run the same plays as usual except that we added some motion and of course Barkley blows Sanders away in the ground game. We tried the complex plays and Hurts was tossing picks out the yingy,so we went back to the KISS offense

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6 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

If you noticed we run the same plays as usual except that we added some motion and of course Barkley blows Sanders away in the ground game. We tried the complex plays and Hurts was tossing picks out the yingy,so we went back to the KISS offense

The "bigger picture" is Hurts cannot progress beyond where he is. He still runs backwards turning his back to the defense. That is disaster for a QB. Run sideways or throw the ball away. The big picture is Hurts has reached his ceiling and all we can do now is keep him surrounded with superior talent and keep his passing limited which is why Bark is most of our offense. Now that Hurts throws less,his passes are crisper and he had some confidence. That is the best we can expect

13 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Most of our O are vets. Which young guys are NOT growing??? We didn't draft any high O picks,so we can't tell who is or is not growing on the PS since they don't play

You can grow into Moore’s O

21 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

I keep trying to explain to you EVERY team tried to win EVERY game EVERY week

I never said don’t try to win. But there are more than just one thing can be going on each week. Just short sighted otherwise

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1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

You can grow into Moore’s O

So who isn't growing give me names

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3 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I never said don’t try to win. But there are more than just one thing can be going on each week. Just short sighted otherwise

SO why should I plan 3 weeks ahead when one of the stars gets hurt and I have to redo all my plans,then another and those plans need redone. It's a stupid waste of time to plan more than 2 week ahead and the only time you need to do that is on a short week,but not that the Thursdays games are done,there is no need to do that even

18 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

I'd rather pick up  young guy

Be great to develop a young guy. But right now…at this point…we need more reliable production right now. Kind of the opposite thinking here from the season team approach thoughts. We have two rookies as it is.

2 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

So who isn't growing give me names

Go to Your Philadelphia Eagles website and see all those involved with the O.

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Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Be great to develop a young guy. But right now…at this point…we need more reliable production right now. Kind of the opposite thinking here from the season team approach thoughts. We have two rookies as it is.

And those are the future. Apparently we think Dotson is better than Paris

Look there just have to be a balance. You always are trying to win each week. Just a matter of whether you are ignoring the bigger picture needs.

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Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Go to Your Philadelphia Eagles website and see all those involved with the O.

Who isn't growing? names please and why you think they are not growing. You grow playing snaps and who is playing snaps that isn't growing??? Names please

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Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Look there just have to be a balance. You always are trying to win each week. Just a matter of whether you are ignoring the bigger picture needs.

Define the bigger picture. I need specifics of what you are talking about otherwise it's only a lame talking point

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Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

Define the bigger picture. I need specifics of what you are talking about otherwise it's only a lame talking point

The future(aka bigger picture) is defined on draft nights

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Now you can of course argue that we are thin at a few spots,that's fine,the bigger picture would be and always is to fill holes or improve a position,but that's an annual thing

Been consistently believing our season will be defined by how far we develop in Moore’s O

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Your PANIC over losing Kelce is/was unfounded and Jurgens will get better as he takes snaps. RG was an issue for me,but so far the play there is adequate(not outstanding but adequate). Cox is probably the most missed for me,but again you can't live in the past you plan for who you HAVE

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2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Been consistently believing our season will be defined by how far we develop in Moore’s O

We stopped because Hurts cannot handle the complex O Moore wants. We gave that up 1/2 way through the Browns game

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BTW as far as Fangio,the secondary got a huge boost on draft day and there was no way for them to go but UP

2 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Your PANIC over losing Kelce is/was unfounded and Jurgens will get better as he takes snaps. RG was an issue for me,but so far the play there is adequate(not outstanding but adequate). Cox is probably the most missed for me,but again you can't live in the past you plan for who you HAVE

I had no panic. You just go extreme overboard with everything. Just stated that I expected a dropoff from Kelce. Just obvious simple basic stuff you argue against always.

2 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

BTW as far as Fangio,the secondary got a huge boost on draft day and there was no way for them to go but UP

Those were his calls. He’s calling the shots and has more power than we’ve seen. There are just so many facets to football than only personnel.

18 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

And those are the future. Apparently we think Dotson is better than Paris

I do

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

I do

Just feels like developing and unlocking Dotson is a key for us. Got him under contract for next season also.

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