Dang it, McCarthy is out in dallas. What a bummer

20 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Dang it, McCarthy is out in dallas. What a bummer

Jerry botched another one... lol.  Can't even fire guys the right way!

17 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Jerry botched another one... lol.  Can't even fire guys the right way!

Botched it by hiring him originally. But I’ll give you the LOL

1 hour ago, joemas6 said:

Yeah, it is interesting with firing McCarthy after blocking him from talking to the Bears?   And he can't even talk to guys like Spags, Glenn ...etc.   He missed his window.

UNLESS he does what AZ did and tampers..... wonder if he does that and you can blame Howie for that if he gets one of those coaches?  I'm sure you could blame Howie for that in your mind. 

So naive you are the only one that hasn’t understood tampering has been standard operating procedure for all NFL teams.

Cousins came out in a press conference and admitted the tampering with the Falcons. Several teams were involved in negotiating for Cousins services that lost out to the Falcons. There were six or so teams that got involved with him. 
 

First hours of legally signing players has been a landslide of news about signings. All the bidding and negotiations were done with a contract agreed upon within an hour…a day? No way. That’s why the league changed the rules. The NFL created some plausible deniability to cover for the fact all the teams weren’t following these rules. ‘Tampering’….was just standard NFL business practice.

17 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Botched it by hiring him originally. But I’ll give you the LOL

Botched the firing because he screws McCarthy from talking to teams who were interested...and misses the window talking to the playoff coaches/ coordinators.    

Again... personnel decisions are different than procedure or how to handle the process.  Jerry does everything the wrong way regardless of the decision.  

17 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

So naive you are the only one that hasn’t understood tampering has been standard operating procedure for all NFL teams.

You are not allowed to talk to playoff coaches after the window.   Last week everyone was available.   Arizona messed up that is why we got a draft pick.   We lost Frank Reich ... but Indy waited and did it legally.   They spoke to McDaniel legally BEFORE the deadline... and waited after the window to talk to Reich.   This is procedure teams have followed.  

It is NOT Howie's fault that Arizona tampered.   Just like Hurts did not take a friendly deal nor did he convince Tennessee not to pay AJ.   Not did Howie do anything wrong tampering with Barkley.   

There are procedures that need to be followed.... technicalities that anal guys always know.   If you had to put Howie in a category of the jock or the anal nerd ... he falls into the anal nerd category.  That's why player decision is his weakness, and every other business detail is his strength.

6 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

First hours of legally signing players has been a landslide of news about signings. All the bidding and negotiations were done with a contract agreed upon within an hour…a day? No way. That’s why the league changed the rules. The NFL created some plausible deniability to cover for the fact all the teams weren’t following these rules. ‘Tampering’….was just standard NFL business practice.

Agents... you talk with agents.  That's legal.  Why so difficult?   

10 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Cousins came out in a press conference and admitted the tampering with the Falcons. Several teams were involved in negotiating for Cousins services that lost out to the Falcons. There were six or so teams that got involved with him. 
 

Right... the Falcons tampered... the Eagles did not.  Very easy to understand the whole time compared to being a TMZ Howie hater.  

Reports were that Jerruh was in negotiations with keeping McCarthy. So it is very interesting to ponder what took place. That Jerruh wanted to keep McCarthy was just dumb. But what fell through if they made it to negotiating? Money, power…? Seems very strange. Release him or keep him….but negotiating then parting ways is very odd. Odd in such a good way coming from an Eagles fan.

2 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Right... the Falcons tampered... the Eagles did not.  Very easy to understand the whole time compared to being a TMZ Howie hater.  

Everybody tampers…is the actual point you’re missing. Several teams were  in the running for Cousins. Supposedly like six diffeeent teams. ATL won out! All exclusively during illegal tampering periods.

8 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

First hours of legally signing players has been a landslide of news about signings. All the bidding and negotiations were done with a contract agreed upon within an hour…a day? No way. That’s why the league changed the rules. The NFL created some plausible deniability to cover for the fact all the teams weren’t following these rules. ‘Tampering’….was just standard NFL business practice.

Ham... put away the Ham TMZ theory mentality for a second.  There are black and white rules...   There is a time frame where you can make contact with an individual... a player or a coach.   Agents... do not fall into this category.    

Arizona... spoke directly with Gannon.     Atlanta spoke directly with Cousins.... the Eagles did not speak directly with Barkley.     Is it really that difficult to comprehend?   

 

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Reports were that Jerruh was in negotiations with keeping McCarthy. So it is very interesting to ponder what took place. That Jerruh wanted to keep McCarthy was just dumb. But what fell through if they made it to negotiating? Money, power…? Seems very strange. Release him or keep him….but negotiating then parting ways is very odd. Odd in such a good way coming from an Eagles fan.

what the issue is with Jerry..... negotiate last week.... should have made the decision by Tuesday at the latest.  Right or wrong... he waits too long to make decisions... he is arrogant.  Hate Howie all you want... he moves, he is constantly working and ahead of things.  

Making the right decisions with people.... it's different than doing things in a timely manor.  2 separate things.  

6 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Agents... you talk with agents.  That's legal.  Why so difficult?   

The new rule the NFL created so there was plausible deniability about why all these negotiations were already completed within the first hour of it being legal. You get it yet? It’s not difficult at all. Tampering has been the way teams in the NFL have conducted business all my life.

3 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Everybody tampers…is the actual point you’re missing. Several teams were  in the running for Cousins. Supposedly like six feeling teams. ATL won out! All exclusively during illegal tampering periods.

Everyone does not Tamper!   why so difficult to comprehend!   wow you are ignorant!

NFL teams tamper…water is wet

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

The new rule the NFL created so there was plausible deniability about why all these negotiations were already completed within the first hour of it being legal. You get it yet? It’s not difficult at all. Tampering has been the way teams in the NFL have conducted business all my life.

You cannot talk with players!!!!!!   NOT A NEW RULE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!    

Just now, joemas6 said:

Everyone does not Tamper!   why so difficult to comprehend!   wow you are ignorant!

Ok….how many teams would you say tampered just with Cousins? 

6 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Reports were that Jerruh was in negotiations with keeping McCarthy. So it is very interesting to ponder what took place. That Jerruh wanted to keep McCarthy was just dumb. But what fell through if they made it to negotiating? Money, power…? Seems very strange. Release him or keep him….but negotiating then parting ways is very odd. Odd in such a good way coming from an Eagles fan.

I read they couldn't agree on contract length

Just now, joemas6 said:

You cannot talk with players!!!!!!   NOT A NEW RULE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!    

The new rule was extending an agent only negotiation period…to cover for the fact the whole league was clearly tampering.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

NFL teams tamper…water is wet

NFL TEAMS CAN TALK TO AGENTS..... THEY CANNOT TALK TO PLAYERS OR COACHES DIRECTLY IN THE FORBIDDEN WINDOWS.   

NOT DIFFICULT

TALKING WITH THE AGENTS IS NOT TAMPERING

Just now, Asg 15 said:

I read they couldn't agree on contract length

Actually makes plenty of sense. Thanks for that intel.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

The new rule was extending an agent only negotiation period…to cover for the fact the whole league was clearly tampering.

YOU COULD NEVER TALK TO PLAYERS DIRECTLY..... WHY WAS ATLANTA CONSIDERED TAMPERING WITH COUSINS?     EXPLAIN!!!!  

Just now, joemas6 said:

NFL TEAMS CAN TALK TO AGENTS..... THEY CANNOT TALK TO PLAYERS OR COACHES DIRECTLY IN THE FORBIDDEN WINDOWS.   

NOT DIFFICULT

TALKING WITH THE AGENTS IS NOT TAMPERING

You are missing the forest because of the trees here