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Ongoing Eagles New Discussion volume 2

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4 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Goedert has been our screen and YAC passing route target. Campbell can run several of these plays.

What does this have to do with replacing Geodart as the inline TE???? Campbell isn’t replacing the TE he might take over as the 3rd receiving option if Geodart went down but that’s different to en replacing the TE 

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1 hour ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

It's not expensive to get a "generational" player at his position. You'd do it for a QB(and we did) It's an INVESTMENT not an expense

My guess is the Jets take the stud TE for Rodgers

9 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Texans looking like they could be contenders just went out and got Diggs to pair with Nico Collins and Tank Dell…. Don’t they also have Joe Mixon now???? 

Look at what it cost them ???  The return we got for Reddick seems pretty good now.

1 hour ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Texans looking like they could be contenders just went out and got Diggs to pair with Nico Collins and Tank Dell…. Don’t they also have Joe Mixon now???? 

Texans receive Diggs and a 2024 6th round pick.

For swapping 2nd and 5th round picks in 2025. 

 

Eagles actually get a pick that could be an early 2nd round pick... they didn't move down or swap picks...they got one free and clear.  A day 2 pick..could be early day 2.

3 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

So is Parker

He is the opposite of a YAC guy, no. Not running those screens or crossers we utilize Goedert for.

2 hours ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Texans looking like they could be contenders just went out and got Diggs to pair with Nico Collins and Tank Dell…. Don’t they also have Joe Mixon now???? 

Texans got my boy Azeez at LB is a huge pickup.

2 hours ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

I mean Dobbins isn’t going to get a great deal best he could hope for is good incentives… has not been able to stay healthy played 9 games the last two seasons. 
 

Id consider him on a 1 year deal cheap with incentives built in. Nice 1-2 punch 

Could be a good fit from his perspective as well.

2 hours ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

What does this have to do with replacing Geodart as the inline TE???? Campbell isn’t replacing the TE he might take over as the 3rd receiving option if Geodart went down but that’s different to en replacing the TE 

Has everything to do with replacing some very specific passing game production. The reason we brought Parris in for those YAC plays as a substitute for Goedert doing them. Hopefully he can spread defenses deep as well, but that’s not what Goedert does.

11 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Has everything to do with replacing some very specific passing game production. The reason we brought Parris in for those YAC plays as a substitute for Goedert doing them. Hopefully he can spread defenses deep as well, but that’s not what Goedert does.

Again you can say he could replace Geodart as the 3rd passing option but that is different than replacing him as the TE.
 

Two completely different things 

If Geodart goes down we either have to go 4 WR sets with no TE or fill that TE void with another actual TE 

9 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

If Geodart goes down we either have to go 4 WR sets with no TE or fill that TE void with another actual TE 

If Goedert isn’t in we need to turn to Parris for some of those YAC specific passing plays we rely on Goedert for.

Without Goedert we had to drop DeVonta into fill in for part of Goedert’s role.

3 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

If Goedert isn’t in we need to turn to Parris for some of those YAC specific passing plays we rely on Goedert for.

That isn’t turning to Parris lol that is changing the game plan Parris isn’t lining up inline at TE doing a Te screen…. He can be the new 3rd option he can be a screen guy but it isn’t "replacing” Geodart you are talking two different things still 

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Without Goedert we had to drop DeVonta into fill in for part of Goedert’s role.

Pretty much just didn’t have an option as a backup for Goedert.

3 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Pretty much just didn’t have an option as a backup for Goedert.

We still don’t have an option to backup for Geodart who is coming in to do everything else Geodart does? Who is taking over blocking??? He is a huge asset in our run game

35 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Has everything to do with replacing some very specific passing game production. The reason we brought Parris in for those YAC plays as a substitute for Goedert doing them. Hopefully he can spread defenses deep as well, but that’s not what Goedert does.

Ok....how many " specific screen passes " did Goedert catch last year?  Let's say between 5 and 10.   Are you really looking at 10 plays over the course of the season????    

15 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

If Goedert isn’t in we need to turn to Parris for some of those YAC specific passing plays we rely on Goedert for.

Dude...it's 10 plays a year....the other things Goedert does is way more of an issue.    

And btw... Barkley should get some of those plays...or even Gainwell in a 2 RB set. 

The bigger issue losing Goedert is the blocking and the route running ...not a screen pass.

21 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Dude...it's 10 plays a year....the other things Goedert does is way more of an issue.    

And btw... Barkley should get some of those plays...or even Gainwell in a 2 RB set. 

The bigger issue losing Goedert is the blocking and the route running ...not a screen pass.

This is a whole crucial element of our passing game. Two or three times a game to have a player underneath create. That helps AJ and DeVonta thrive down the field.

32 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

This is a whole crucial element of our passing game. Two or three times a game to have a player underneath create. That helps AJ and DeVonta thrive down the field.

So you think Goedert catches 2 or 3 of these passes a game?      Absolutely not.  Not even close.  

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4 hours ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

I mean Dobbins isn’t going to get a great deal best he could hope for is good incentives… has not been able to stay healthy played 9 games the last two seasons. 
 

Id consider him on a 1 year deal cheap with incentives built in. Nice 1-2 punch 

We have Gains "cheap". I don't see Howie spending even more on the position unless bark went down. Pick one up in the draft if you feel that spot is "barren". Someone else will pay him more to be RB2. We have RB2 in Gains

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4 hours ago, joemas6 said:

My guess is the Jets take the stud TE for Rodgers

That's what I see in alot of mocks also,but they need so many other things. I have seen him from 10-18

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2 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

He is the opposite of a YAC guy, no. Not running those screens or crossers we utilize Goedert for.

Parker is 6'3: plus and you're telling me there are no YAC's with him? Seiously? He can't run a 7 yards route like Goedert? I'm buying extra swamp land,just so I cam re-sell it to you

7 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

We have Gains "cheap". I don't see Howie spending even more on the position unless bark went down. Pick one up in the draft if you feel that spot is "barren". Someone else will pay him more to be RB2. We have RB2 in Gains

I think the draft is smart for RB on day 3... that would be a RB locked up for cheap for 4 years.  Great position to have that.

Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

Parker is 6'3: plus and you're telling me there are no YAC's with him? Seiously? He can't run a 7 yards route like Goedert?

Ham is talking about the TE screen that we run ...apparently 3 times pee game?

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