4 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

That all leads me to a WR or DB with that other second round pick.

Kamari Lassister CB Georgia?

 

This is the CB I’m kind of seeing as the best value

50 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I’m feeling pretty sure our first pick will be Oline. Jackson Powers Johnson and Graham Barton are the two I’m seeing as fits that could very likely be there at 22. Then we almost have to take this TE at 50.

Except Bowers is a generational TE,you want to pass on that? Bowers at 22 and Beebe at 50 works better for me,then Bullard the S from Georgia. Trevin Wallace-LB at 120. Then get Ainias Smith for the future slot(or he can start but we have Parker and Campbell but Smith can be worked in and be the return guy while he learns). Then Jarrian Jones the CB from FL state

Bowers could be the next Gronk. There is no way I pass that up. The 1/2 TE punch with Godert would basically be indefensible

2 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Bowers could be the next Gronk. There is no way I pass that up. The 1/2 TE punch with Godert would basically be indefensible

Bowers is the best TE prospect in quite some time.  Only TE to win the John Mackey award back to back.  The chances of him being on the board at 22 are almost nil. If he slips to 22, it’s because of the concerns over the ankle and his durability.  

6 minutes ago, VeeMak said:

Bowers is the best TE prospect in quite some time.  Only TE to win the John Mackey award back to back.  The chances of him being on the board at 22 are almost nil. If he slips to 22, it’s because of the concerns over the ankle and his durability.  

I don’t expect him to still be available at 22…this is correct

8 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I don’t expect him to still be available at 22…this is correct

The safe bet is offensive or defensive line at 22.  Given the draft history with Howie, it’s unlikely that we would draft a DB at 22.  At this point, I would put money on Mims or Chop at 22.  I would also not be surprised for a trade down.  

Wentz signed for a year (I think) to KC

3 hours ago, VeeMak said:

Bowers is the best TE prospect in quite some time.  Only TE to win the John Mackey award back to back.  The chances of him being on the board at 22 are almost nil. If he slips to 22, it’s because of the concerns over the ankle and his durability.  

Like Howe won't move for the guy he wants???

3 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I don’t expect him to still be available at 22…this is correct

So Howe never makes a move up for the guy he wants???? Depends on how the draft falls and how much Howie wants to move up. It would presumably(with Bowers and Goedert and the WR's we have plus Bark) make this offense indefensible. IDK how you can afford NOT to make this move if you can put an indefensible offense on the field. Teams would have to have the top 2 CB's,the top S,and 2 top LB's to even cope with this

3 hours ago, VeeMak said:

The safe bet is offensive or defensive line at 22.  Given the draft history with Howie, it’s unlikely that we would draft a DB at 22.  At this point, I would put money on Mims or Chop at 22.  I would also not be surprised for a trade down.  

If we stay there yes,but I don't suspect we will. The extra round 2 is basically a free pick or a bargaining chip to move up if we want Bowers. I would look at Latu at 22 if we don't make the move and if we moved back I suspect that would be one of the 2's we have. Still stud players around at 22 and no reason to give that up IMO

https://www.nflmockdraftdatabase.com/big-boards/2024/consensus-big-board-2024  So there is a possibility, seeing this list, that Bowers could fall to maybe 17-18 which is totally doable if we want to make that jump. I doubt he goes at 10 to the Jets they need other major pieces before a TE. Depends how badly other teams need linemen and DB's. If they go there yeah 17-18 is doable,so I can't just rule him out. We'll know soon

19 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

So Howe never makes a move up for the guy he wants???? Depends on how the draft falls and how much Howie wants to move up. It would presumably(with Bowers and Goedert and the WR's we have plus Bark) make this offense indefensible. IDK how you can afford NOT to make this move if you can put an indefensible offense on the field. Teams would have to have the top 2 CB's,the top S,and 2 top LB's to even cope with this

That's if the QB can read the defense and make the throws

1 minute ago, joemas6 said:

That's if the QB can read the defense and make the throws

Well there would be no more excuses,you or I would do well with these weapons

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/news/2024-nfl-mock-draft-michael-penix-jr-taken-inside-top-15-afcs-top-qbs-gain-dynamic-pass-catchers/ Here's a new mock where he falls to 18

14 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Well there would be no more excuses,you or I would do well with these weapons

Glad to see you coming around to the idea of getting that elite 5th weapon and not just the rotation projects.  

But idk about moving up to get him. Especially giving up a second round asset.

They’ve admitted to preferring a three WR look…than two TEs

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

They’ve admitted to preferring a three WR look…than two TEs

I think most teams should ...because you need 2 TEs that can be multifaceted in order for it to cause matchup problems. 

2 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/news/2024-nfl-mock-draft-michael-penix-jr-taken-inside-top-15-afcs-top-qbs-gain-dynamic-pass-catchers/ Here's a new mock where he falls to 18

In that mock I’d take the LSU WR Brian Thomas. 6’4” 205 that would be a fantastic scenario for us to come upon. He’s goes at pick 23 in that mock.

4 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

In that mock I’d take the LSU WR Brian Thomas. 6’4” 205 that would be a fantastic scenario for us to come upon. He’s goes at pick 23 in that mock.

But I’m thinking Thomas goes much higher.

22 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

CJG is not soft. Blank re-signed,he should get better too. We got Huff in here and it's time for last years draftees to step up. Brock Bowers is a generational TE. Don't be shocked if we take him(although we never had a visit with him). Yes this draft will be really interesting with all the deep talent. I expect Howie to do alot of finagling

CJG is a safety.

Bowers won’t be there at pick 22.

21 hours ago, joemas6 said:

White is " non existent"?

White has been a disappointment from his draft expectations. Out of fairness to you, I forgot the Eagles signed him.
 

Dean is not good; the kid from Michigan needs a LOT of work; the starters from last year are gone.

This time of year is rough for sports….I don’t care about basketball, baseball, or hockey. Love to play golf, but I can’t stand to watch it. XFL is unwatchable. Sigh. Summer fun outside saves me. Need summer to get here soon!

Wentz a Chief. The irony if Mahomes got hurt for a few weeks and Wentz plays well. I wonder why the Rams didn’t push harder to re-sign him. Maybe they did. 
What do the cowpies have at RB that no-one but them knows about?

1 hour ago, Senhorcook said:

This time of year is rough for sports….I don’t care about basketball, baseball, or hockey. Love to play golf, but I can’t stand to watch it. XFL is unwatchable. Sigh. Summer fun outside saves me. Need summer to get here soon!

Yeah this is a rough time of year! Soccer is OK but even that at a top level is kind of dull and not very entertaining. I’m glad I’m a Southampton fan because actually the Championship is a lot of fun and far more competitive. 

Not a fan of golf either but I do love a bit of the masters.