1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

You can onside kick…but have to announce it…think maybe only fourth quarter…I don’t know. So they have a whole different setup when inside is announced.

So where would the kicker kick from with the teams only 10 yards apart???? At the opponents 30??

9 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Peter Schrager…the link I posted

Sorry...usually don't look at links . 

9 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Peter Schrager…the link I posted

Is that one of the guys on the morning show on NFL network?

8 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Keep the initial KO and 1/2 time KO rule the same. If you get a safety,you should get the ball back at midfield 🙂

Come on...the free kick after a safety usually gets one of those exciting returns you like...lol.  

8 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

This new KO rule completely eliminated the surprise onside kick.

Right...not a fan of eliminating the onside kick...was already dumb having eliminated the overload.   We lost creativity.

2 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

So toss that mock out right now LOL

It’s a pretty good mock draft I think. He stated his next version will include Penix. That once released teams mentioned him the most as the flaw in his mock. The thinking he said is that somebody is going to trade up into the end of the first to draft Penix.

Just now, joemas6 said:

Come on...the free kick after a safety usually gets one of those exciting returns you like...lol.  

Well IMO you should pay a heavier penalty for bonehead plays HAHAHA

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

It’s a pretty good mock draft I think. He stated his next version will include Penix. That once released teams mentioned him the most as the flaw in his mock. The thinking he said is that somebody is going to trade up into the end of the first to draft Penix.

he has DeJean for us(no complaint from me) but if you take him out the whole mock changes

5 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

You can onside kick…but have to announce it…think maybe only fourth quarter…I don’t know. So they have a whole different setup when inside is announced.

Not a fan.   Just play ball.

4 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Is that one of the guys on the morning show on NFL network?

Yeah…he gets around and can be seen several places.

5 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

So where would the kicker kick from with the teams only 10 yards apart????

Would be the same...except now all the players go back to the normal kickoff behind the ball etc.  

That's what Ham is saying.  They have to announce the onside kick so everyone goes back...but now they can't fake an onside kick either.  Just dumb.

1 minute ago, joemas6 said:

Would be the same...except now all the players go back to the normal kickoff behind the ball etc.  

That's what Ham is saying.  They have to announce the onside kick so everyone goes back...but now they can't fake an onside kick either.  Just dumb.

So I'm announcing an onside kick every time,then I will kick it over everyones head LOL

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Yeah…he gets around and can be seen several places.

Has his mocks been accurate in prior years? Like any more than the usual?

Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

So I'm announcing an onside kick every time,then I will kick it over everyones head LOL

But you can't...see what we are saying. 

If you kickoff ... for real.. it has to be this new way.

Next rule will be that on the onside kick you have to point to the guy you are kicking it to! 🤷‍♂️

2 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Would be the same...except now all the players go back to the normal kickoff behind the ball etc.  

That's what Ham is saying.  They have to announce the onside kick so everyone goes back...but now they can't fake an onside kick either.  Just dumb.

You gotta have the onside kick though. So often that key to extending hope for teams down multiple scores. Keeps it so you could possibly score 16 points in the last minute if the game even.

2 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

But you can't...see what we are saying. 

If you kickoff ... for real.. it has to be this new way.

But if they go back to the usual onside kick you don't kick it 10 yards you kick it 45 and hope your guys get there first LOL. It's all open field back there

It will be announced...." Cleveland has chosen to kick the ball to #24"  lol

1 minute ago, joemas6 said:

Next rule will be that on the onside kick you have to point to the guy you are kicking it to! 🤷‍♂️

That’s a flag and a fine

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

You gotta have the onside kick though. So often that key to extending hope for teams down multiple scores. Keeps it so you could possibly score 16 points in the last minute if the game even.

Yeah... the old onside kick without all these dumb additions.    Just kick it ten yards...overload if you want,  no announcement..etc.  Those were great!

2 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

But if they go back to the usual onside kick you don't kick it 10 yards you kick it 45 and hope your guys get there first LOL. It's all open field back there

IDK someone will try and find a way to abuse this

4 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Has his mocks been accurate in prior years? Like any more than the usual?

I seem to remember picking up good intel from him. Probably the top mock draft I ever pay attention to. Also the only.

2 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

But if they go back to the usual onside kick you don't kick it 10 yards you kick it 45 and hope your guys get there first LOL

Can't do it that way....has to land in the drop zone etc... and they can't cover until the ball is touched...or lands.  There is no rule that the receiving team needs to be all 10 yards off the ball.  So it wouldn't work.  No fakes that's the point. 

2 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Yeah... the old onside kick without all these dumb additions.    Just kick it ten yards...overload if you want,  no announcement..etc.  Those were great!

Mayhem!

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

IDK someone will try and find a way to abuse this

No they won't...can't cover until ball lands in the zone etc.