1 hour ago, mjkline1958 said:

Including college Hurts has had 10 play callers in 9 seasons.

Instability seems to follow him????  🤔 

What I'm reading of Kellen's O I really like, just need to get everyone on the same page.

And what Kelce's been saying about Jurgens makes it sound like he can handle it. Just get a definite RG in place. I don't mind if we go high - 2nd rd - on Lane's eventual replacement and get the best CB in the 1st.

4 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Instability seems to follow him????  🤔 

Playcallers rising in promotions sure has followed him. Started with Kiffin. Then Sarkasian. Brian Dabol. Locksley he left for Ok after. He graduated from Lincoln Riley. Pedey got axed. Siri stunk and had to give it over to Steichen. The lone season he had consistency he was MVP runner up. Then the disaster of Johnson last season. Now Moore. 
  Clearly can’t claim Hurts success has been due to being some system QB.

3 minutes ago, mjkline1958 said:

And what Kelce's been saying about Jurgens makes it sound like he can handle it. Just get a definite RG in place. I don't mind if we go high - 2nd rd - on Lane's eventual replacement and get the best CB in the 1st.

Steen took over the RG locker. I thought he showed himself capable in the one game he started. Very tough opponent… but gained Lane’s trust. Both guys need to step up in pass pro.

2 minutes ago, mjkline1958 said:

And what Kelce's been saying about Jurgens makes it sound like he can handle it. Just get a definite RG in place. I don't mind if we go high - 2nd rd - on Lane's eventual replacement and get the best CB in the 1st.

My issue with the OL...us the depth.  Let's say Steen at RG...that leaves the free agent from Atlanta as our only depth piece.   

DL... very easily can be losing Graham, Sweat and Milton next year.

I get all the desire for CB, LB etc...but the lines need reinforcements.   

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Playcallers rising in promotions sure has followed him. Started with Kiffin. Then Sarkasian. Brian Dabol. Locksley he left for Ok after. He graduated from Lincoln Riley. Pedey got axed. Siri stunk and had to give it over to Steichen. The lone season he had consistency he was MVP runner up. Then the disaster of Johnson last season. Now Moore. 
  Clearly can’t claim Hurts success has been due to being some system QB.

Hmmm... people seem to leave for one reason or another.... not a good sign...however you spin it.  

1 minute ago, joemas6 said:

My issue with the OL...us the depth.  Let's say Steen at RG...that leaves the free agent from Atlanta as our only depth piece.   

DL... very easily can be losing Graham, Sweat and Milton next year.

I get all the desire for CB, LB etc...but the lines need reinforcements.   

Fred Johnson very clearly won the backup LT job according to insiders. 
 Got Lecitus Smith as an extra depth  piece. Stout can work with him.

5 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Hmmm... people seem to leave for one reason or another.... not a good sign...however you spin it.  

Yeah terrible sign to have so much success follow him….not. Really Hurts to have lost Steichen…he was our best coach under this regime. Pedey firing was really all setup by Rosie. Rosie was making terrible decisions, signings and money management. Then balked over ego and power firing a very good coach in Pedey. Really nothing there concerning Hurts. QB1 has been around some very knowledgable coaches for sure though.

7 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Hmmm... people seem to leave for one reason or another.... not a good sign...however you spin it.  

Only spin is trying to make it like a negative Hurts has been a part of getting several of these guys promotions. It clearly has been a negative he did so great Steichen got the Colts job. That is true. If only Hurts didn’t have such a fantastic season maybe Steichen doesn’t get the Colts job…then our whole O is commanded by some coaching that’s competent.

38 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Playcallers rising in promotions sure has followed him. Started with Kiffin. Then Sarkasian. Brian Dabol. Locksley he left for Ok after. He graduated from Lincoln Riley. Pedey got axed. Siri stunk and had to give it over to Steichen. The lone season he had consistency he was MVP runner up. Then the disaster of Johnson last season. Now Moore. 
  Clearly can’t claim Hurts success has been due to being some system QB.

Or they can' t get him to so what they want and move on lol

38 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Playcallers rising in promotions sure has followed him. Started with Kiffin. Then Sarkasian. Brian Dabol. Locksley he left for Ok after. He graduated from Lincoln Riley. Pedey got axed. Siri stunk and had to give it over to Steichen. The lone season he had consistency he was MVP runner up. Then the disaster of Johnson last season. Now Moore. 
  Clearly can’t claim Hurts success has been due to being some system QB.

10-1 was a disaster?

What players could ever overcome and succeed under a different coach every dang year? Should have been career killing situation for Hurts.

Hurts had to transfer in college because he wasn't good enough to take the starting job-FACTS

3 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

What players could ever overcome and succeed under a different coach every dang year? Should have been career killing situation for Hurts.

A) awesome O line(every year he's been here) B) Top talent all around him(every year he's been here) 2) Tush push as a weapon(last 2 years)

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

10-1 was a disaster?

Hurts was guiding the second ranked O at that point. The disaster was once teams figured out the book on our O there was no adjustments forthcoming. Still finished as the 7th ranked O. Think about that for one second. Hurts has raised the bar so high…you are so upset and trashing Hurts because he dropped down to the 7th ranked NFL O. Still top 10…yet you treat him like he was 32nd. It was the 2nd ranked O before teams figured us out.

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

A) awesome O line B) Top talent all around him 2) Tush push as a weapon

Yeah those are the reasons why he’s overcome different coaches in college and the pros all these years….not.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Hurts was guiding the second ranked O at that point. The disaster was once teams figured out the book on our O there was no adjustments forthcoming. Still finished as the 7th ranked O. Think about that for one second. Hurts has raised the bar so high…you are so upset and trashing Hurts because he dropped down to the 7th ranked NFL O. Still top 10…yet you treat him like he was 32nd. It was the 2nd ranked O before teams figured us out.

How was that on Johnson as you state???

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Yeah those are the reasons why he’s overcome different coaches in college and the pros all these years….not.

Sorry you can't see reality with your Hurts blinders on. nice spin though,you should be in politics

Whom did we play after that 10-1 start? What team telecasted the book on our O to the whole league?

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Yeah those are the reasons why he’s overcome different coaches in college and the pros all these years….not.

In college he had to transfer because he wasn't good enough to start. In the pros he was eased in and had awesome O lines and great weapons ever since-FACTS. He's a great runner and a mediocre passer

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Whom did we play after that 10-1 start? What team telecasted the book on our O to the whole league?

You blamed Johnson for a 10-1 start. Only 1 game shy of perfection yet it's all his fault LMAO

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

How was that on Johnson as you state???

Completely on the failure of coaches to adjust. Book came out and was exposed on our O. Coaches always have to self scout and adjust. That’s the job for them. Failed to ever adjust. But before even then the O never has gelled together as one unit. Johnson’s inexperience was on full display all season. No cohesion in his game plans or playcalling the whole time.

33 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Only spin is trying to make it like a negative Hurts has been a part of getting several of these guys promotions. It clearly has been a negative he did so great Steichen got the Colts job. That is true. If only Hurts didn’t have such a fantastic season maybe Steichen doesn’t get the Colts job…then our whole O is commanded by some coaching that’s competent.

These coaches all got promoted????   Just curious... who were the WRs on these teams?

3 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Whom did we play after that 10-1 start? What team telecasted the book on our O to the whole league?

Maybe but how is that Johnsons fault?