April 18, 20242 yr Next rule will be that on the onside kick you have to point to the guy you are kicking it to! 🤷♂️
April 18, 20242 yr 2 minutes ago, joemas6 said: Would be the same...except now all the players go back to the normal kickoff behind the ball etc. That's what Ham is saying. They have to announce the onside kick so everyone goes back...but now they can't fake an onside kick either. Just dumb. You gotta have the onside kick though. So often that key to extending hope for teams down multiple scores. Keeps it so you could possibly score 16 points in the last minute if the game even.
April 18, 20242 yr Author 2 minutes ago, joemas6 said: But you can't...see what we are saying. If you kickoff ... for real.. it has to be this new way. But if they go back to the usual onside kick you don't kick it 10 yards you kick it 45 and hope your guys get there first LOL. It's all open field back there
April 18, 20242 yr 1 minute ago, joemas6 said: Next rule will be that on the onside kick you have to point to the guy you are kicking it to! 🤷♂️ That’s a flag and a fine
April 18, 20242 yr 1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said: You gotta have the onside kick though. So often that key to extending hope for teams down multiple scores. Keeps it so you could possibly score 16 points in the last minute if the game even. Yeah... the old onside kick without all these dumb additions. Just kick it ten yards...overload if you want, no announcement..etc. Those were great!
April 18, 20242 yr Author 2 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said: But if they go back to the usual onside kick you don't kick it 10 yards you kick it 45 and hope your guys get there first LOL. It's all open field back there IDK someone will try and find a way to abuse this
April 18, 20242 yr 4 minutes ago, joemas6 said: Has his mocks been accurate in prior years? Like any more than the usual? I seem to remember picking up good intel from him. Probably the top mock draft I ever pay attention to. Also the only.
April 18, 20242 yr 2 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said: But if they go back to the usual onside kick you don't kick it 10 yards you kick it 45 and hope your guys get there first LOL Can't do it that way....has to land in the drop zone etc... and they can't cover until the ball is touched...or lands. There is no rule that the receiving team needs to be all 10 yards off the ball. So it wouldn't work. No fakes that's the point.
April 18, 20242 yr 2 minutes ago, joemas6 said: Yeah... the old onside kick without all these dumb additions. Just kick it ten yards...overload if you want, no announcement..etc. Those were great! Mayhem!
April 18, 20242 yr 1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said: IDK someone will try and find a way to abuse this No they won't...can't cover until ball lands in the zone etc.
April 18, 20242 yr Author Just now, joemas6 said: Can't do it that way....has to land in the drop zone etc... and they can't cover until the ball is touched...or lands. There is no rule that the receiving team needs to be all 10 yards off the ball. So it wouldn't work. No fakes that's the point. More layers of stupidity
April 18, 20242 yr Author Just now, joemas6 said: No they won't...can't cover until ball lands in the zone etc. So what if the ball lands at the 21 outside the landing zone? Kickers do mis hit balls LOL
April 18, 20242 yr Just now, cunninghamtheman said: Mayhem! Lol...yes!!! It's exactly what an onside kick should be.
April 18, 20242 yr 2 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said: IDK someone will try and find a way to abuse this Clearly the new rules will be advantageous to some and detrimental to others. Hoping we are getting out in front of being prepared for this new KO. Not sure what two returners we have for this though.
April 18, 20242 yr 1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said: So what if the ball lands at the 21 outside the landing zone? Kickers do mis hit balls LOL Penalties and predetermined ball placements
April 18, 20242 yr Just now, cunninghamtheman said: Clearly the new rules will be advantageous to some and detrimental to others. Hoping we are getting out in front of being prepared for this new KO. Not sure what two returners we have for this though. I think it's going to be all returns between the 20 and 30. It's going to be too crowded to create holes. Not much time either, and they can't use the momentum of the coverage guys against them. I think it's going to be a snoozefest.
April 18, 20242 yr Just now, cunninghamtheman said: Penalties and predetermined ball placements Yep...snoozefest
April 18, 20242 yr Author https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/nfl-s-new-kickoff-rule-good-move-or-desperation-debate-with-ufl-kicker-matt-mccrane/ar-BB1lAZPB Complicated. So the ball HAS to land in the landing zone? No more touchbacks. I'm not really grasping this well
April 18, 20242 yr Returns can be exciting though. They had pretty much eliminated the KO return. This almost insures returns every time. I like it….I think. Should be much more interesting.
April 18, 20242 yr Part of the blocking strategy is just a bump or shield to let the coverage run bye... now they aren't running. So it's going to be easy to go track the ball carrier....they are just engaging with the blocker in front of them. Nobody will be way out of position or be fooled on a hesitation move. I think the real question is do we see more linemen on this play now. I mean, I need to create a hole and plug it with power, not speed.
April 18, 20242 yr 3 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said: Returns can be exciting though. They had pretty much eliminated the KO return. This almost insures returns every time. I like it….I think. Should be much more interesting. But it's not like you are thinking. There is 10 guys across...nobody running out of control to where the return man can just fake them. It's the return man basically running into a crowd.
April 18, 20242 yr They clearly identified the potential harm the high speed collisions can cause. So I can understand the moves they’ve been making and why. ST was mostly made up of the lesser important players. So wasn’t of as large of concern for the no name players getting injured. But I believe this stretches into the PeeWee leagues and so on. Parents very aware of the dangers of concussions playing football. Sport will deteriorate massively if the kids stop playing and developing.
April 18, 20242 yr Author 2 minutes ago, joemas6 said: Part of the blocking strategy is just a bump or shield to let the coverage run bye... now they aren't running. So it's going to be easy to go track the ball carrier....they are just engaging with the blocker in front of them. Nobody will be way out of position or be fooled on a hesitation move. I think the real question is do we see more linemen on this play now. I mean, I need to create a hole and plug it with power, not speed. You almost need RB's as opposed to receivers
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