Just now, joemas6 said:

Can't do it that way....has to land in the drop zone etc... and they can't cover until the ball is touched...or lands.  There is no rule that the receiving team needs to be all 10 yards off the ball.  So it wouldn't work.  No fakes that's the point. 

More layers of stupidity

Just now, joemas6 said:

No they won't...can't cover until ball lands in the zone etc.

So what if the ball lands at the 21 outside the landing zone? Kickers do mis hit balls LOL

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Mayhem!

Lol...yes!!!  It's exactly what an onside kick should be. 

2 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

IDK someone will try and find a way to abuse this

Clearly the new rules will be advantageous to some and detrimental to others. Hoping we are getting out in front of being prepared for this new KO. Not sure what two returners we have for this though.

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

More layers of stupidity

Correct!

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

So what if the ball lands at the 21 outside the landing zone? Kickers do mis hit balls LOL

Penalties and predetermined ball placements

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Clearly the new rules will be advantageous to some and detrimental to others. Hoping we are getting out in front of being prepared for this new KO. Not sure what two returners we have for this though.

I think it's going to be all returns between the 20 and 30.   It's going to be too crowded to create holes. Not much time either,  and they can't use the momentum of the coverage guys against them.  I think it's going to be a snoozefest.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Penalties and predetermined ball placements

Yep...snoozefest

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/nfl-s-new-kickoff-rule-good-move-or-desperation-debate-with-ufl-kicker-matt-mccrane/ar-BB1lAZPB Complicated. So the ball HAS to land in the landing zone? No more touchbacks. I'm not really grasping this well

Returns can be exciting though. They had pretty much eliminated the KO return. This almost insures returns every time. I like it….I think. Should be much more interesting.

Part of the blocking strategy is just a bump or shield to let the coverage run bye... now they aren't running.    So it's going to be easy to go track the ball carrier....they are just engaging with the blocker in front of them.  Nobody will be way out of position or be fooled on a hesitation move. 

I think the real question is do we see more linemen on this play now.  I mean, I need to create a hole and plug it with power,  not speed. 

3 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Returns can be exciting though. They had pretty much eliminated the KO return. This almost insures returns every time. I like it….I think. Should be much more interesting.

But it's not like you are thinking. There is 10 guys across...nobody running out of control to where the return man can just fake them.  It's the return man basically running into a crowd.

They clearly identified the potential harm the high speed collisions can cause. So I can understand the moves they’ve been making and why. ST was mostly made up of the lesser important players. So wasn’t of as large of concern for the no name players getting injured. But I believe this stretches into the PeeWee leagues and so on. Parents very aware of the dangers of concussions playing football. Sport will deteriorate massively if the kids stop playing and developing.

2 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Part of the blocking strategy is just a bump or shield to let the coverage run bye... now they aren't running.    So it's going to be easy to go track the ball carrier....they are just engaging with the blocker in front of them.  Nobody will be way out of position or be fooled on a hesitation move. 

I think the real question is do we see more linemen on this play now.  I mean, I need to create a hole and plug it with power,  not speed. 

You almost need RB's as opposed to receivers

Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

You almost need RB's as opposed to receivers

Yes...even MJK favorite power back types

Just now, joemas6 said:

But it's not like you are thinking. There is 10 guys across...nobody running out of control to where the return man can just fake them.  It's the return man basically running into a crowd.

A man for a man to block. I’m expecting guys to break free kind of like on those short yardage plays. Either he’s consumed with every lane being filled…or…he finds a crease…he’s gone.

I mean do we put Bark back there to receive kick offs??? No high speed collisions but power to break initial tackles 

4 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Part of the blocking strategy is just a bump or shield to let the coverage run bye... now they aren't running.    So it's going to be easy to go track the ball carrier....they are just engaging with the blocker in front of them.  Nobody will be way out of position or be fooled on a hesitation move. 

I think the real question is do we see more linemen on this play now.  I mean, I need to create a hole and plug it with power,  not speed. 

Yes…and you aren’t worried about inside kick needing guys with capable hands

Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

I mean do we put Bark back there to receive kick offs??? No high speed collisions but power to break initial tackles 

I would not

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

A man for a man to block. I’m expecting guys to break free kind of like on those short yardage plays. Either he’s consumed with every lane being filled…or…he finds a crease…he’s gone.

Yeah...but this will be a easier for the other guys to follow right from the start where the return man is going.

It's great if the one guy makes his block...the other 9 are going to be able to follow the ball better now.

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

I mean do we put Bark back there to receive kick offs??? No high speed collisions but power to break initial tackles 

Would have thought Boston Scott would have been our best weapon for this. But he’s not here anymore.

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

A man for a man to block. I’m expecting guys to break free kind of like on those short yardage plays. Either he’s consumed with every lane being filled…or…he finds a crease…he’s gone.

It's going to be like kids soccer...all crowding the ball.

I would put Bark and AJ back there LOL 

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Would have thought Boston Scott would have been our best weapon for this. But he’s not here anymore.

Nah...Jordan Howard type.  

1 minute ago, joemas6 said:

Yeah...but this will be a easier for the other guys to follow right from the start where the return man is going.

It's great if the one guy makes his block...the other 9 are going to be able to follow the ball better now.

Where’s Cook? Look what all he got us into now. 😂🤣