8 minutes ago, Senhorcook said:

98 degree heat can do that

It was 87

9 minutes ago, Senhorcook said:

Offense missed Goedert.

He does alot of the "grunt" work

12 minutes ago, Senhorcook said:

AJ Brown’s one handed catch falling down was unbelievable!…maybe even lucky.

Best 4 yard catch I can recall!!!

1 hour ago, joemas6 said:

Definitely not

Perhaps AJ is still nursing his hamstring.

46 minutes ago, Senhorcook said:

Not knowing the defensive play call, I would give Mitchell some grace on the deep ball. And I thought he made a great effort at the end knowing he was beat.

1 hour ago, joemas6 said:

Touchdown to the rest of the world

My eyes agreed with Ham’s bottomline, but once it was called a TD on the field there wasn’t enough to overturn if challenged. The key for it being an incompletion is whether it moved in the receivers grasp when hitting the ground. Any such movement wasn’t going to be clearly shown in the replay.

1 minute ago, Crazy Legs said:

  48 minutes ago, Senhorcook said:

Not knowing the defensive play call, I would give Mitchell some grace on the deep ball. And I thought he made a great effort at the end knowing he was beat.

My sense was that the WR found an opening in a zone defense and Q was in a position to chase him down.

44 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

It was 87

Probably closer to 98 at field level if the official KC temp was 85.

38 minutes ago, mattwill said:

Probably closer to 98 at field level if the official KC temp was 85.

Doubtful with an 11 mph breeze. That was at kick off, usually temps drop from that point. But no matter, pros have to play in all types of weather. I hear no excuses from TB when they have to play in winter in Seattle

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3 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Welp, they have the virtual first downs which weren't being used at all. Takes out the ref work on most of those

Not on the false start

2 hours ago, Crazy Legs said:

Perhaps AJ is still nursing his hamstring.

💯... he looks good at everything else but cutting. I believe his presence still helps the offense big time though as he draws attention.

First place in the division with a win vs Dallas and also getting @ KC out of the way.

Everyone before the season was commenting... they ckukd easily start 2-3.. more importantly don't expect it to be pretty the first few games, as they need time to gel.

But as per usual.. in the moment we all want it to look perfect.

As much as anything.... Carter was out game 1, he is the game changer on defense. And AJ and Dickerson are absolutely not 100% healthy or effective. Also missing Goedert.

Similar to last year when thr offense had injuries...including AJ.

As much as " coaching " comes into play.... the players matter more. Who do you consider the best coach the last 25 years.... how did that coach do without Brady? Or sone who think the guy we just beat the last 3 times moght be the best coach 🙄🙄, how many SBs without Mahomes?

How did Pete Carroll do without the Legion of Boom together with a prime Wilson? How many SB wins for Sean Payton and Mike McCarthy without those stud QBs and stacked rosters?

How many titles did Parcells or Jimmy Johnson win after leaving their original jobs that had stacked teams built?

The players ultimately matter the most. You can't look great or perfect without the players being great. The opposing teams are too good to dominate without a healthy AJ, Dickerson and a missing Goedert. No matter how good Fangio is, he isn't going to dominate without Carter.

3 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

The handoffs weren't to shoot for a first down, it was to make the punts deeper into KC territory. There is method to the madness LOL

Ok... so 5 possessions in the second half.

1st = FG

2nd = punt.. after a sack made it 3rd and 16, they did hand the ball off, for an 8 yard run. At the time I thought it was the smart move.

3rd = TD

4th = punt after a pass play, complete pass on 3rd and 8 but short of the first down

5th = they ran out the clock. Basically set up by having KC use all their timeouts before getting the ball back. The 8+ yard run by Barkley set up two tush push scenario to win the game.

Absolutely handled correctly

Last week ... an 8 yard pass to AJ setup the short run ro ice the game.

Idk if that is too conservative? Using the pass to ice the game....and when I was expecting a run on 3rd and 8, up by 10 and to force KC to call their last time out. . We passed it... just happened to check it down for a 6 yard gain.

That's a KC defense at Arrowhead... still passed to try to get that 1st down.

Both games AJ and Barkley setup the easy conversion to ice the game by running the clock out.

How many times, especially in the 14 years we had the coach we just beat 3 times in a row... twice at Arrowhead and the butt whipping we gave him in the Superbowl... did we fail to run out the clock?

It took a BS penalty on Campbell followed by a long TD pass where Q got beat in order to make it even close at the end.

Chris Jones....." you didn't even have a hundred yards "

Jalen Hurts as he takes the snap to kneel..." we won the F@##ing game, shut your @$$ up!"

That's going to stew a little bit as we shouldn't have to play the Chiefs until 2027.... at the Linc.

As I said .. if there is any mystique left for KC... there absolutely isn't any when it comes to having it over the Eagles.

A slippery field away from beating them the last 4 meetings.. none of them at the Linc.

Siri owns Andy! To the anal, fast food eating fans that don't understand the competitive nature of my Italian culture...and it bothers them when our coach doesn't just sit back and take abuse from fans.. STFU.. this is a reason why Siri owns Andy and sets the culture to where Hurts responds to Jones right away. The passion is more important than trying to make a simple game rocket science.

" we won the F@##ing game, shut yo @$$ up!" LOL

Lol

11 hours ago, joemas6 said:

I agree...the second time we had a false start not called. And another one later not called.

So after the " ref guy who chimes in" said..

" im done with the rush push"

Now we can see the path that they are going to take to get rid of the play.

They can't use " injury" they can't use " it just doesn't look like a football play"

I think they will use " we just can't officiate the play correctly " and they will use this game... 1. they couldn't see Hurts score... 2 they let us false start twice .. and 3 they will say that they couldn't tell if Hurts fumbled at the end.

This is the reason they will give. Watch how they allow us to false start a few more obvious times, just to make it seem like they can't see it in real time.

Im on board with you with the league wanting to get rid of it. I think this is how they do it

Putting in Hawkeye systems makes no sense - it depends on cameras. How are cameras going to see through bodies in any pile, not just the tush push? Putting a chip inside the ball is the way, that's why the NFL went with the other.

How long will it take for qb1 to throw over 200 yards?

47 minutes ago, Godfather said:

How long will it take for qb1 to throw over 200 yards?

As soon as AJ gets back to nornal

Final Chiefs Game Prediction Results

@just relax with a prediction of Eagles 23 and Chiefs 17 gets the win this week.  A total of 55 predictions were recorded with 46 for an Eagles win and 9 for a Chiefs win.  The average predicted score was Eagles 28 Chiefs 22. 

3 Bonus predictions ... possibly 5 ... were correct.

@EagleJoe8 with "Hurts 1 Tush Push TD"

@EaglesIreland with "Defense comes up big and is the difference"

@pgcd3 with "Mukuba INT"

The two possibles are @MR-CYN with "Back and forth nail biter" and @joemas6 with "Nolan Smith drops into coverage less than 3 times" If anyone has thoughts about the correctness of those two predictions, please post them in a reply.

Here is a visual of the final list of predictions.

13 hours ago, joemas6 said:

I thought we dominated on it today...we just used it with the idea if using it again on the next play.... idk if they stopped it.. when it's a yard and a half ,the first one sets up the next one

To me...stopping it would = a turnover. If we run it in 4 scenarios... but take 6 plays to get 4 first downs/ scores...then to me it works every time. Because if I was on defense, I would feel like we didn't stop it.

It's still effective but like all plays teams are trying to find different strategies to stop it

Eventually someone will crack the code

9 hours ago, joemas6 said:

Ok... so 5 possessions in the second half.

1st = FG

2nd = punt.. after a sack made it 3rd and 16, they did hand the ball off, for an 8 yard run. At the time I thought it was the smart move.

3rd = TD

4th = punt after a pass play, complete pass on 3rd and 8 but short of the first down

5th = they ran out the clock. Basically set up by having KC use all their timeouts before getting the ball back. The 8+ yard run by Barkley set up two tush push scenario to win the game.

Absolutely handled correctly

Last week ... an 8 yard pass to AJ setup the short run ro ice the game.

Idk if that is too conservative? Using the pass to ice the game....and when I was expecting a run on 3rd and 8, up by 10 and to force KC to call their last time out. . We passed it... just happened to check it down for a 6 yard gain.

That's a KC defense at Arrowhead... still passed to try to get that 1st down.

Both games AJ and Barkley setup the easy conversion to ice the game by running the clock out.

How many times, especially in the 14 years we had the coach we just beat 3 times in a row... twice at Arrowhead and the butt whipping we gave him in the Superbowl... did we fail to run out the clock?

It took a BS penalty on Campbell followed by a long TD pass where Q got beat in order to make it even close at the end.

That WAS a seriously BS penalty

10 hours ago, joemas6 said:

Ok... so 5 possessions in the second half.

1st = FG

2nd = punt.. after a sack made it 3rd and 16, they did hand the ball off, for an 8 yard run. At the time I thought it was the smart move.

3rd = TD

4th = punt after a pass play, complete pass on 3rd and 8 but short of the first down

5th = they ran out the clock. Basically set up by having KC use all their timeouts before getting the ball back. The 8+ yard run by Barkley set up two tush push scenario to win the game.

Absolutely handled correctly

Last week ... an 8 yard pass to AJ setup the short run ro ice the game.

Idk if that is too conservative? Using the pass to ice the game....and when I was expecting a run on 3rd and 8, up by 10 and to force KC to call their last time out. . We passed it... just happened to check it down for a 6 yard gain.

That's a KC defense at Arrowhead... still passed to try to get that 1st down.

Both games AJ and Barkley setup the easy conversion to ice the game by running the clock out.

How many times, especially in the 14 years we had the coach we just beat 3 times in a row... twice at Arrowhead and the butt whipping we gave him in the Superbowl... did we fail to run out the clock?

It took a BS penalty on Campbell followed by a long TD pass where Q got beat in order to make it even close at the end.

LOL 3rd and long(past 10-12 yards). The "tougher" passing down. The smart play is to hand off to Barkley(especially if AJ can't cut). Various scenarios doing that. 1) They stuff him at the line for no gain and you punt. 2) Barkley breaks one for a first down(which is entirely feasible) 3) Bark gains some yardage which puts the punter closer and into position to drop a kick inside the 10(with coverage) putting your opponent in worse field position(meaning they have to expend more energy going farther or making tough plays). While I love a good long bomb play, if you need to cover up your star WR isn't 100%, this is win/win and smart football. If you can nail your opponent at the 5 yard line you cut off 1/2 their playboo0k(easier to defend). In any case the pros are pros, they make the calls. While is bugs me to no end that the passing game isn't really doing alot,it's enough to win games which is why we play them. At 2-0 I can bish alot(and I might) but 2 W's looks like 2 W's with no style points added. The offense makes key plays. I find it a bit comical we are winning without any stat lines. It's a testament to how smart this team plays. Win while not expending much energy, win without putting your star players at risk of injury. The tush push could be banned after this year, but this year isn't the year. Use the tools you have to win the game. At 2-0 no one can argue. Ugly wins still count LOL. You can't win every snap of every game. Just win more than your opponent does. Making those late first downs(no matter how ugly they look) are key to not giving the ball back with time left on the clock. Deny them that when you are leading, and we've been doing that. 4 tush pushes is only 4 yards of offense,but WHAT a 4 yards those are. Let Patullo get better(he will). Watching is great, but having your hands on the "project" still takes time. He will improve. Goedert makes a big difference, not having him changes things and why those TE's are difficult to locate. Also why we re-signed Goedert because there are not many on the horizon that can do what he does. In College they are failing to teach blocking skills to TE's. They are mainly catching ones due to the college game being different. If colleges lose their star WR's they turn to their TE's to catch, but fail to teach them the other 1/2 of being a top TE. So what the pro's are facing are having to find TE's they feel can be trained in the part of the game they never learned. Also why Howie stuck with bringing in older school TE's that maybe already had some exposure to blocking. The drafted TE's are just extra receivers untrained in blocking technique. Been that way for a little while now. Probably have to look at smaller school TE's that have training in both areas and coach them up rather than rely on high draft picks. The 4 yard catch by AJ was just awesome!!!! No stats,but a huge first down