So here is Hurts big chance,to prove he can play QB without an O line LOLOL. I will hold to my 7-9 prediction. Should be a nice draft pick in '27

Kuper is definitely not looking like a great hire but maybe this is the year he puts it together as it stand right now we have way more talent on our OL then Minnesota so that should help.

Kuper does have a connection with Mannion though being the OL coach in his final season as a QB in 2023…. Kuper also was an asst. OL coach under Fangio in Denver

https://www.nfldraftbuzz.com/Player/Spencer-Fano-OL-Utah Would you move for this guy? even if Lane stays he can work RG until Lane retires(or remain at RG)

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

https://www.nfldraftbuzz.com/Player/Spencer-Fano-OL-Utah Would you move for this guy? even if Lane stays he can work RG until Lane retires(or remain at RG)

Personally seems like too big a lift

23- Kaydn Proctor-OT-bama........54-Chase Bisontis-G-Tx A&M..................68-Malik Muhammad-CB-Tx .............98-Brian Parker-C-Duke......................122-Bryce Lance- WR- N. Dak st.................137-Daequon Wright-TE- Ole Miss.........151-Josh Cameron-WR-Baylor....................179-VJ Payne-S- Kan st.......................201 Logan Fano(Spencers brother)-edge-Utah

If we snag a 7th or late 6-Jam Miller-RB-Bama

8 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

23- Kaydn Proctor-OT-bama........54-Chase Bisontis-G-Tx A&M..................68-Malik Muhammad-CB-Tx .............98-Brian Parker-C-Duke......................122-Bryce Lance- WR- N. Dak st.................137-Daequon Wright-TE- Ole Miss.........151-Josh Cameron-WR-Baylor....................179-VJ Payne-S- Kan st.......................201 Logan Fano(Spencers brother)-edge-Utah

Now you have reloaded your future O line. Protor can be Lanes replacement even if he has to sit a year. While I like my round 1 picks to start, I can't boot Lane lol. Bisontis can immediately start at RG. Parker the C can also serve as a BU G/C or could replace Dickerson if he hangs it up. Lance/ Cameron can compete for AJ's BU/slot or ST returns. Wright is a promising TE but one who needs work. Payne can be a BU S for now,or possibly work his way into starter as the season moves along. Fano has excellent upside as an edge with some coaching effort. He is moving up boards so may not be available at 201

2 hours ago, DownwithDallas said:

I live in Minnesota my whole family Vikings fans. I listen to sports radio here and all I ever hear are people complaining about the offensive line. I'm beyond disappointed with this hiring.

So nothing to do with the actual players?

40 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

23- Kaydn Proctor-OT-bama........54-Chase Bisontis-G-Tx A&M..................68-Malik Muhammad-CB-Tx .............98-Brian Parker-C-Duke......................122-Bryce Lance- WR- N. Dak st.................137-Daequon Wright-TE- Ole Miss.........151-Josh Cameron-WR-Baylor....................179-VJ Payne-S- Kan st.......................201 Logan Fano(Spencers brother)-edge-Utah

I have ....

Johnson, Smith, Jackson, Jones, Evans, Bradley, Cooper and Davis as my picks

2 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

So nothing to do with the actual players?

Didn’t like 2-3 of the former Vikings player leave Minnesota to be really good.

Garrett Bradbury was just in the SB for NE and didnt give up a sack the entire regular season for them

Ed Ingram is on his way to getting a big payday from the Texans for his play

Erza Cleveland was another player in Minnesota that left and found success.

So definitely seems like it was more then just the players being bad in Minnesota for the OL struggles

In a season such as this, where the Eagles should have at least made it to the SB, I keep asking "What the heck does Siri actually do?" The same guy who was supposed to be fired in '23, had a good OC for for '24 as he cannot run an O, had his incompetent friend sink a loaded O talent wise, causing players to be disgruntled, yet couldn't correct it due to his ineptness, cost us a legendary coach by not listening to him - but listened to his inept friend. Instead of these coaching hires, I really wish he had been replaced as keeping him may have cost us a good HC and the staff he would have brought. I don't want to hear about previous wins - the coordinators and players won those games. I'm also not saying the new staff will definitely fail, I just don't feel as confident as I would have.

2 minutes ago, mjkline1958 said:

had a good OC for for '24 as he cannot run an O,

Are we going to act like a healthy OL didn’t make the difference? Hurts was horrible passer under Moore to the point they literally had to switch to the ground game.

OL was hurt last year never 100% and it showed and the passing game still sucked.

Though the handling of Stout situation was wrong the ground game actually improved when Siri took over the ground game last season maybe not drastically but again the OL was decimated

5 minutes ago, mjkline1958 said:

had his incompetent friend sink a loaded O talent wise, causing players to be disgruntled

You mean like AJ Brown who openly supported KP and who has been openly disgruntled toward the QB?

Numerous reports that have come out about players disgruntled about the QB.

Not many if any reports if I recall were coming out about players unhappy with the coaches not Siri not KP

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/potential-nfl-rule-change-could-turn-eagles-gm-howie-roseman-into-an-even-bigger-offseason-menace/ar-AA1W0Syi?ocid=winp2fptaskbar&cvid=1dcf326be4d242f697d1bb8f71819528&ei=17

10 minutes ago, mjkline1958 said:

What the heck does Siri actually do?"

Win literally all he has done since becoming the HC is win.

Playoffs every year, 2 SBs, 1 SB win

Siri does have his faults though catering to much to his QB whether that is Siri himself or him just following orders from the FO…. Nobody seems

To want to hold Hurts accountable sounds just like the Wentz situation all over again and players are disgruntled about it yet again.

13 minutes ago, mjkline1958 said:

In a season such as this, where the Eagles should have at least made it to the SB, I keep asking "What the heck does Siri actually do?" The same guy who was supposed to be fired in '23, had a good OC for for '24 as he cannot run an O, had his incompetent friend sink a loaded O talent wise, causing players to be disgruntled, yet couldn't correct it due to his ineptness, cost us a legendary coach by not listening to him - but listened to his inept friend. Instead of these coaching hires, I really wish he had been replaced as keeping him may have cost us a good HC and the staff he would have brought. I don't want to hear about previous wins - the coordinators and players won those games. I'm also not saying the new staff will definitely fail, I just don't feel as confident as I would have.

Siri is a CEO(hands off) HC not a COO(hands on) HC. What he does is co-ordinate all the coaching staff. There are many more coaches other than the OC and DC. Patullo was not a good hire, but Siri didn't hire him Lurie did.Patullo was here for 5 years before he was interviewed by the brass. Siri merely suggested him, the hiring was done by the brass, not Siri. It made Siri look bad for sure and cost the team and caused friction. I imagine Siri tried to fix that, but once again he is NOT a COO. I would not hire a plumber to do my electrical work. Lurie gave Patullo a chance. He does that alot with "no names". So you fail and try again. Patullo will never be hired higher than having a subordinate job now. Yes Patulo game plan ticked off AJ. We are a run first team, AJ should understand that but his sporadic target share wasn't acceptable to him. I think he stays to see what the new OC brings. I'm certain this will be discussed by all parties. No one makes 100% correct decisions

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Siri is a CEO(hands off) HC not a COO(hands on) HC. What he does is co-ordinate all the coaching staff. There are many more coaches other than the OC and DC. Patullo was not a good hire, but Siri didn't hire him Lurie did.Patullo was here for 5 years before he was interviewed by the brass. Siri merely suggested him, the hiring was done by the brass, not Siri. It made Siri look bad for sure and cost the team and caused friction. I imagine Sir tried to fix that, but once again he is NOT a COO. I would not hire a plumber to do my electrical work. Lurie gave Patullo a chance. He does that alot with "no names". So you fail and try again. Patullo will never be hired higher than having a subordinate job now. Yes Patulo game plan ticked off AJ. We are a run first team, AJ should understand that but his sporadic target share wasn't acceptable to him. I think he stays to see what the new OC brings. I'm certain this will be discussed by all parties. No one makes 100% correct decisions

This however does not stop me from selecting WR's, as other than the starters, the room is weak and we're going to have to find AJ's heir regardless. May not be in this draft,but I get some WR's in here to compete to bring up the room level. I'm looking at a 7-9 season with the tough schedule we drew, so that will give us a pick in '27 possibly to replace AJ then, but the WR room needs upgraded anyhow. We have a very mediocre, middle of the pack QB who decided self preservation is more important than giving it his all. That is a recipe for mediocrity even with star players. It's a good chance to take a hit and get your team retooled for another run. We shall see. I am optmistic we can get young guys in for the future, but we will sacrifice a good '26 season, but it must be done. This puts mega pressure on Hurts to perform(or not). A bad showing and mediocre season will either prove Hurts is a QB or if it's time to make a move there IMO

Sorry, but Shipley didn't show me anything, he can go away. Gains is very much missed and we need to find that 3rd down guy,or maybe we use Tank more which basically everyone on here suggested. Still some decent RB's in this draft either late of UDFA. Jam Miller or Kaelon Black from Indiana I would look at

59 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

I have ....

Johnson, Smith, Jackson, Jones, Evans, Bradley, Cooper and Davis as my picks

First names or position so I can check them out 500 people(as usual) named johnson lol. Those Johnsons must be working for them HA. It's like the Blazing Saddles movie. If you mean CHRIS Johnson,yeah like him alot. I just feel we have to rebuild this O line or nothing else matters. This O needs to perform WAY higher. Malik Muhammad is no slouch either

38 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/potential-nfl-rule-change-could-turn-eagles-gm-howie-roseman-into-an-even-bigger-offseason-menace/ar-AA1W0Syi?ocid=winp2fptaskbar&cvid=1dcf326be4d242f697d1bb8f71819528&ei=17

IDK this could be a mess trading 5 years picks ahead. Trade for someone and give up a round 2 in 2031??? NP I will be dead by then LOL

3 hours ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Didn’t like 2-3 of the former Vikings player leave Minnesota to be really good.

Garrett Bradbury was just in the SB for NE and didnt give up a sack the entire regular season for them

Ed Ingram is on his way to getting a big payday from the Texans for his play

Erza Cleveland was another player in Minnesota that left and found success.

So definitely seems like it was more then just the players being bad in Minnesota for the OL struggles

Probably some injuries too?

3 hours ago, mjkline1958 said:

In a season such as this, where the Eagles should have at least made it to the SB, I keep asking "What the heck does Siri actually do?" The same guy who was supposed to be fired in '23, had a good OC for for '24 as he cannot run an O, had his incompetent friend sink a loaded O talent wise, causing players to be disgruntled, yet couldn't correct it due to his ineptness, cost us a legendary coach by not listening to him - but listened to his inept friend. Instead of these coaching hires, I really wish he had been replaced as keeping him may have cost us a good HC and the staff he would have brought. I don't want to hear about previous wins - the coordinators and players won those games. I'm also not saying the new staff will definitely fail, I just don't feel as confident as I would have.

Why do you think the Eagles should have made the Superbowl with the health of their offensive line?

8 hours ago, joemas6 said:

Probably some injuries too?

Last season sure Minnesota had some 25 combination of guys starting for them understandable why they struggled.

OT in Minnesota have been the same and they struggled in the interior… Trio of Cleveland, Bradbury, and Ingram played like 3 years together under Kuper and the OL was like 18th at best in the league.

Can say they weren’t good players yet all 3 left and are good players for new teams

To be fair to Kuper though seems to be lot of blame directed toward O’Connells system. Vikings tend to always be in the bottom of the league in rushing attempts and they like to use longer developing vertical passing game

18 hours ago, DownwithDallas said:

I live in Minnesota my whole family Vikings fans. I listen to sports radio here and all I ever hear are people complaining about the offensive line. I'm beyond disappointed with this hiring.

Was like 25 Oline combinations he had to run with. But nothing can cover for Siri running Stout out of town. He was gifted him to begin with.