9 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

You blaming Hurts for that now? Really you just admitted your understanding of how we can’t win without Hurts…sadly.

How can I blame Hurts for a game he never played????

Definitely Hurts fault that McKee didn't win week 17(LMFAO) Alot of games we(Houdini Hurts) would have lost if not for the DEFENSE. Our luck winning those finally ran out vs the 9ers

Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

Definitely Hurts fault that McKee didn't win week 17(LMFAO) Alot of games we(Houdini Hurts) would have lost if not for the DEFENSE. Our luck winning those finally ran out vs the 9ers

And this was due to???? Yep you guessed it, lack of offensive stats(aka production) Well done

BTW week 17 with McKee, were all the other 1's playing that game or?????? Love to see this new OC have the balls to start McKee with the 1's

Let's recall even with Wentz as the 1, Howie didn't hesitate to take Hurts in round 2(see writing on the wall)

Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

Let's recall even with Wentz as the 1, Howie didn't hesitate to take Hurts in round 2(see writing on the wall)

I don't believe that happens this year, but maybe next year. We need to get other things rebuilt

1 hour ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Bark said he finds the new OC "refreshing"

Could that be because there is a sign of slight hope the stale pathetic worst Siri O could actually being upgraded? How do you fall lower than worst? Got nothing to lose trying to develop Mannion…from the coaching perspective of things.

11 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Definitely Hurts fault that McKee didn't win week 17(LMFAO) Alot of games we(Houdini Hurts) would have lost if not for the DEFENSE. Our luck winning those finally ran out vs the 9ers

Situations determine what occurs..or strategy. Situation for us was huge getting Fangio. He chose good players…draft, trade, FA. So of course we’d rely on the side of the ball with fantastic coaching versus pathetic…duh.

Siri even ran off Stout. How can you even try to defend that? Some evidence could be slapped over your face and you still don’t see it. Or is there any person on the planet, besides Siri, that believes Stout isn’t a complete stud coach?

I like this mock a lot. We would sure up the Oline with young talent all of them would be ready this year but Proctor wouldn't start till next year or when Lane goes down. I love my 2 WRs Thompson is a little DJax and Coleman is an exciting return specialist. Crawford would join the rotation at pass rush well.

5 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Could that be because there is a sign of slight hope the stale pathetic worst Siri O could actually being upgraded? How do you fall lower than worst? Got nothing to lose trying to develop Mannion…from the coaching perspective of things.

It's not "siri's O" You still don't get it and it's sadly funny. IDK how you ever owned a biz without knowing what a CEO is. Comical

1 minute ago, DownwithDallas said:

I like this mock a lot. We would sure up the Oline with young talent all of them would be ready this year but Proctor wouldn't start till next year or when Lane goes down. I love my 2 WRs Thompson is a little DJax and Coleman is an exciting return specialist. Crawford would join the rotation at pass rush well.

Like your first 2, had those also,but I think Proctor may be out of reach,so I opted for Freeling(who can sit a year behind Lane) and Dunker who can start right now at RG. Bisontis also capable of starting

DWD…we will draft Oline. We all know it. Let’s consider your mock…concerning that we are going so hard at Oline…exactly when without Stout. Stout’s wisdoms on choosing and developing.

3 minutes ago, DownwithDallas said:

I like this mock a lot. We would sure up the Oline with young talent all of them would be ready this year but Proctor wouldn't start till next year or when Lane goes down. I love my 2 WRs Thompson is a little DJax and Coleman is an exciting return specialist. Crawford would join the rotation at pass rush well.

Lew is a wasted pick IMO, and CB it seems to me is a must have, as is edge, but the first 2 are fine by me

2 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

It's not "siri's O" You still don't get it and it's sadly funny. IDK how you ever owned a biz without knowing what a CEO is. Comical

Then why was their such public talk from our organization about with the right top hire as OC…he’d be given autonomy?

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

DWD…we will draft Oline. We all know it. Let’s consider your mock…concerning that we are going so hard at Oline…exactly when without Stout. Stout’s wisdoms on choosing and developing.

So no O linemen without Stoutland? Nobody else can possibly coach them???

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Then why was their such public talk from our organization about with the right top hire as OC…he’d be given autonomy?

They straight saying it’s been Siri O. But if Dabol(pick your qualifying level OC hire)was hired…he’d get to run his own O.

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Then why was their such public talk from our organization about with the right top hire as OC…he’d be given autonomy?

Because Siris job isn't to call the offensive plays. This another rerun discussion because you don't understand diddly squat

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

They straight saying it’s been Siri O. But if Dabol(pick your qualifying level OC hire)was hired…he’d get to run his own O.

The OC will be 'hands on"(COO) the offense, not Siri. Lord how did you ever own a biz??

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

They straight saying it’s been Siri O. But if Dabol(pick your qualifying level OC hire)was hired…he’d get to run his own O.

Which obviously leads to the question how do they view Mannion? Clearly not a very proven coach. Feels like..most likely…it will be Siri O remaining…with the thinking of adding fresh ideas from Mannion while relying on his abilities to actually coach.

4 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

So no O linemen without Stoutland? Nobody else can possibly coach them???

You just responded this way to my post saying "we will draft Oline..we all know it.”

Here's my mock at present. 23-Freeling-OT 54- Dunker-G(listed as a T) 68 Igbinosun-CB-OSU 98-Lawrence-edge UCF 122- Clark-S-TCU, 137 Royer-TE-Cincy 151 Washington-RB-Arkansas 179-Cole Payton-QB-N dak st 201- Kaleb Proctor-DL Se louisiana. Now if AJ gets traded to Buffalo for their 26 add Denzel Boston in round 1

6 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

They straight saying it’s been Siri O. But if Dabol(pick your qualifying level OC hire)was hired…he’d get to run his own O.

For the 400th time Siri is a CEO NOT A COO

4 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Which obviously leads to the question how do they view Mannion? Clearly not a very proven coach. Feels like..most likely…it will be Siri O remaining…with the thinking of adding fresh ideas from Mannion while relying on his abilities to actually coach.

Yeah lets experiment and get the staff correct before we move on from Hurts after this year

7 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

So no O linemen without Stoutland? Nobody else can possibly coach them???

Nobody else is Stout. Always made it clear how highly I thought of him. Would you say the odds are higher or lower with Oline drafted this draft succeeding without Stout? You know my answer…it’s the obvious answer.