Now…Hurts launching deep balls to AJ the entire time he was here…until when? After he had a fallout with Hurts. Then Siri massively pulled back on throwing to AJ for reasons of risk adversity. I was in shock at the time. I mauled Siri for what seemed like such a stupid move. DWD stated he believed AJ being on HOF track. You throw to HOFers repeatedly…not a negative risk…exact opposite. Only risk was predictable O where everybody had an exact breakdown of what route AJ was running presnap based on his location and personnel…so defenders exactly alert to what they were defending did increase the chances for an interception to occur. Yet AJ and Hurts even under the worst circumstances from the coach still were producing at a fantastic rate. Absolutely never would have believed anyone could have done near that well.

So what was the huge risk throwing to DWD HOF track player? I openly admit my bashing of Siri for this move was wrong. Obviously I had no clue about the entire situation back then. It seemed like the dumbest coaching I could imagine. What reason would Siri do that for? Now we know.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Now…Hurts launching deep balls to AJ the entire time he was here…until when? After he had a fallout with Hurts. Then Siri massively pulled back on throwing to AJ for reasons of risk adversity. I was in shock at the time. I mauled Siri for what seemed like such a stupid move. DWD stated he believed AJ being on HOF track. You throw to HOFers repeatedly…not a negative risk…exact opposite. Only risk was predictable O where everybody had an exact breakdown of what route AJ was running presnap based on his location and personnel…so defenders exactly alert to what they were defending did increase the chances for an interception to occur. Yet AJ and Hurts even under the worst circumstances from the coach still were producing at a fantastic rate. Absolutely never would have believed anyone could have done near that well.

So what was the huge risk throwing to DWD HOF track player? I openly admit my bashing of Siri for this move was wrong. Obviously I had no clue about the entire situation back then. It seemed like the dumbest coaching I could imagine. What reason would Siri do that for? Now we know.

Many here believed it wasn’t the dumbest coaching move…but Siri’s brilliance to not throw to AJ. No idea how anybody concluded that. Yet those same people refer to AJ in the highest of terms as a player and back him still as important to keep as an Eagles. How both can exist in one brain?

Jalen’s offensive coaches:
Doug Pederson (head coach, play caller, 2020)
Rich Scangarello (senior offensive assistant, 2020)
Andrew Breiner (pass game analyst, 2020)
Marty Mornhinweg(senior offensive consultant, 2020)
Nick Sirianni (head coach 2021-24, play caller first half of 2021)
Shane Steichen(offensive coordinator 2021-22, play caller second half of 2021)
Brian Johnson (quarterbacks 2021-22, offensive coordinator, play caller 2023)
Kevin Patullo (pass game coordinator 2021-24, offensive coordinator, 2025)
Alex Tanney (assistant QBs 2022, QBs 2023)
Marcus Brady (senior offensive assistant, 2023)
Kellen Moore (offensive coordinator, 2024)
Doug Nussmeier(quarterbacks, 2024)
Parks Frazier (passing game coordinator, 2025, QBs 2026)
Scot Loefler (quarterbacks, 2025)
Sean Mannion (offensive coordinator, 2026)
Josh Grizzard (passing game coordinator, 2026)
Jerrod Johnson (senior offensive analyst, 2026)

Entire time as a starter leading the Eagles Hurts been in Siri O as HC with his puppet Patullo Passing Game Cordinator before last season actually some how as OC.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Entire time as a starter leading the Eagles Hurts been in Siri O as HC with his puppet Patullo Passing Game Cordinator before last season actually some how as OC.

My belief the entire time being Siri and Patullo were never qualified

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

My belief the entire time being Siri and Patullo were never qualified

Leading to my very accurate predictions and understanding all these years.

5 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Leading to my very accurate predictions and understanding all these years.

How could I have remained so consistent the entire time? How have I been predicting exactly the situation time after time?

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

How could I have remained so consistent the entire time? How have I been predicting exactly the situation time after time?

Only one here backed even just starting Hurts in 2021. Everybody else here stuck on believing keeping Wentz was the right call. You guys were pissed about that decision…while I stood my ground completely alone.

I was upset and worried about 2023 for our team that was 10-1. Standing alone ..again. Met with complete dismissal. Several posters believing at 10-1 we were the unstoppable best team in the league.

How pissed was I Siri promoted Patullo last season? I understood our O was going to struggle. This was a year ago from today this was already so clear to me.

I was so pissed we retained Siri after the worst Collapse I’ve ever witnessed. Not being a big fan of Moore…I stated my entire optimism was being placed on how far Moore could get our O by the end of the season. At length laid out my thinking. Desired the learning curve to be sped up as much as possible. Take the lumps early acceptable making sure to reach highest ending point.

I was so pissed we retained Siri after the worst Collapse I’ve ever witnessed. Not being a big fan of Moore…I stated my entire optimism was being placed on how far Moore could get our O by the end of the season. At length laid out my thinking. Desired the learning curve to be sped up as much as possible. Take the lumps early acceptable making sure to reach highest ending point.

1 hour ago, joemas6 said:

Can't wait for some news....it's getting old

What do you think we are struggling like the cowboys not signing free agents?

1 hour ago, joemas6 said:

Can't wait for some news....it's getting old

But you are right. AJ story been going on for over a year

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

But you are right. AJ story been going on for over a year

Those siding with him blind to reality only thing as a talking point for discussion.

1 hour ago, joemas6 said:

Can't wait for some news....it's getting old

Can I pick your brain on your expectations of how this O situation will play out going forward?

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Can I pick your brain on your expectations of how this O situation will play out going forward?

AJ gone…none of that. First is how ready is Mannion?

How well do believe all these unrelated O coaches gel together?

https://www.nflmockdraftdatabase.com/players/2026/caden-barnett UDFA kid that can play G or T-PS guy but on with upside

Do you believe Siri will allow time enough for Mannion to grow and develop this O?

2 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I’m not blind to some of Hurts areas of weakness. We pay a guy very well to teach and develop our players as his job. Our QB experiencing college like he did had some obvious negative results, though mostly positive. Ridiculous to expect perfection and mastery out of every player direct from college. Every organization understands this, even if you don’t FL, they hire teams of professionals to do just that. Dieticians, workout coach…,on and on…to the supposedly top guy being HC. It’s expected a player coming into the NFL needs development in so many if not every area. Problem being our HC can’t do it…because he doesn’t know it himself. Strange world where any covet the QB to have such superior football knowledge to the HC. That’s not too mention maturity..oops guess I did. Hurts works his butt off and is dedicated. That’s every single opinion I’ve ever heard. Never heard a single differing. So the obvious flaw is just not teaching the guy and letting him do it.

LMAO what you refuse to see is no matter what OC we bring in here Hurts is so limited he can't learn anything new. besides not learning crap he ties people hands behind them with ell out quitter side deals. No one is going to be able to teach the unteachable

2 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Look at that deep ball. AJ actually slows a step…something I didn’t even notice at the time…because I couldn’t even fathom a player tanking a playoff game. Ball is placed great away from both…that’s right two defenders. Instead of speed up…he takes a deliberate hitch in his step slowing up.

I don't have a home theater sized movie screen

I actually see Mannion as having strong potential. Especially based on widely given respect he’s given league wide. But he isn’t Shanahan. Shannahan whole life learning under his father. Mannion going to attempt a hundred duties for the first time as OC…only just beggining his coaching career at all. 

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

I actually see Mannion as having strong potential. Especially based on widely given respect he’s given league wide. But he isn’t Shanahan. Shannahan whole life learning under his father. Mannion going to attempt a hundred duties for the first time as OC…only just beggining his coaching career at all. 

Even optimistically towards Mannion hard to imagine it working out well here. Everybody, player or coach, needs to develop. Get better with experience. That’s just obvious applied across the board to everybody.

Having never run a TC as OC …any expectations he’ll be elite at it?