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3 hours ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

I mean Cooper could still see the field as a 1st rounder even if we keep AJ not out of the realm of possibility he takes the WR3 spot over Hollywood.

I don’t think we go WR that high I’m still leaning OL/DL in the first but if we did go WR could still see him on the field early and often

2 hours ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

The real concern is the fact that we went with Hurts play of 4 verts( the play call that Ham blames Patullo and Siri for). On a critical 4th down in the playoffs.

Was it the coaches wanted Hurts as comfortable as possible on the final play going with his decision? Was it they knew even if they called something else Hurts would just audible to verts?

Was clear sign Hurts would go rogue they talked about the GB game Hurts calling the shot to AJ and Siri clearly wast on board with yet covered for QB1

They needed 10 yards.. so whatever route had to be " vertical " to the point of 10 yards. They should have never been in that spot on 4th down though

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OT-GL to the crew of Artemis. I got to see a few shuttle launches. 4 miles away and the ground shook like an earthquake and this is more powerful than those were. I also got to see something more rare. Our cruise boat had just left port, maybe 5,6 miles out from shore when they shot a shuttle off right over our heads. You just can't fathom the power until you see it up close. Crazy stuff

"I love Jalen. I mean, there's no bigger fan of Jalen than me," Lurie said via The Athletic's Zach Berman. "Clutch gene, absolutely. MVP the Super Bowl 13 months ago, should have been MVP the Super Bowl right before that. ...Exceptional and so dedicated. I mean, ...Incredibly dedicated to the game, to winning and being a huge winner. And I love everything about him.”

Jalen Carter… Lurie was very much less warm about

Feeling good about Mannion setting up some footwork timing passes along with bringing back the deep ball.

Some pick plays

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Just a little local FYI. The consensus here is that Carolina will take Warren at 19. I still believe Iheanchor will be our pick at 23 if we stay put

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Another negative Jalen Hurts report now hints at massive...

It's just never ending for Philadelphia Eagles quarterback Jalen Hurts as a new report now has the team potentially thinking about a crazy decision in 2027.
11 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

"I love Jalen. I mean, there's no bigger fan of Jalen than me," Lurie said via The Athletic's Zach Berman. "Clutch gene, absolutely. MVP the Super Bowl 13 months ago, should have been MVP the Super Bowl right before that. ...Exceptional and so dedicated. I mean, ...Incredibly dedicated to the game, to winning and being a huge winner. And I love everything about him.”

owner speak, nothing more.

meanwhile, in reality ...

Another negative Jalen Hurts report now hints at massive 2027 decision for Eagles

thoughts?

Just adds to the point is a make or break season for Hurts. Does make you wonder if we draft the contingency plan at QB this year.

Either the next cheap backup or possible Hurts replacement in 2027

Really does feel like Siri is safe this season no matter what and Mannion is going to be given a longer leash then previous OCs.

If the offense flops this year feels like the change will be at QB not coaches

1 hour ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Just adds to the point is a make or break season for Hurts. Does make you wonder if we draft the contingency plan at QB this year.

Either the next cheap backup or possible Hurts replacement in 2027

to be clear, mainly for @cunninghamtheman's benefit because he's super, duper sensitive about hurts, i'm not a hurts hater, i'd actually consider myself a fan. that said, i see his shortcomings and i'm not afraid to point them out. i'm hopeful mannion can get him in the right mindset to open up to being a more complete qb.

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2 hours ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:
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Another negative Jalen Hurts report now hints at massive...

It's just never ending for Philadelphia Eagles quarterback Jalen Hurts as a new report now has the team potentially thinking about a crazy decision in 2027.

As I said before, this is a contract year for him. But since I "don't know what you're talking about" then I should not have mentioned it (LOL)

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23 minutes ago, Alpha_TATEr said:

to be clear, mainly for @cunninghamtheman's benefit because he's super, duper sensitive about hurts, i'm not a hurts hater, i'd actually consider myself a fan. that said, i see his shortcomings and i'm not afraid to point them out. i'm hopeful mannion can get him in the right mindset to open up to being a more complete qb.

Ditto, but you know, we paid him for his legs, and last year's side deal basically nullified all that big loot. At 55 million a year, I expect to get the entire Ham, not just a few slices. My personal "conspiracy theory" is Mannion was hired to push Hurts and this years performance will decide what we do in 2027. That could also be cause to trade AJ for the round 1 '27 draft pick. Now with 2 round 1 picks in hand can anyone say "Arch Manning"? I knew that you could. Or possibly McKee. We shall see

1 hour ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Sounds like Patullo was handcuffed couldn’t truly implement everything he wanted.

I thought that was obvious

1 hour ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Really does feel like Siri is safe this season no matter what and Mannion is going to be given a longer leash then previous OCs.

If the offense flops this year feels like the change will be at QB not coaches

I feel this to be obvious....except to Ham.

A = if Patullo was the problem, why would AJ apparently still want to be traded? He was frustrated the year before with Moore because the passing game wasn't good then either.

B = they gave Mannion the ability to pick his staff, including OL coach. If Siri was the issue in Lurie/ Howie's minds ...then Stoutland would have had his butt kissed, a raise offered etc.

C = I thought it was obvious going into 2024 season ( when Ham's mind Siri was going to be fired and he thinks they wanted Belichek) Lurie/ Howie at that point took Siri's input.... While Ham denies, the reports were Moore was Siri's first choice as OC

D = Lurie/ Howie like the CEO type head coach, that's why they liked Andy, not for " great O mind " that's why they liked Doug, even though he was a great game day play caller.

And the biggest proof is the bad experience with Chip...who was supposed to be the hire due to all that O mind crap. They prefer a coach like Siri. Player's coach, overseeing everything on the large scale.

Do they like Hurts, sure...do they realize his limitations and flaws ...sure. Do they understand that before investing more in him, that they want to see him evolve...sure.

Do they prefer Hurts evolves...and they don't have to start over....sure.

Do they understand they need put themselves in a place for the alternative...absolutely!

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3 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

I thought that was obvious

I feel this to be obvious....except to Ham.

A = if Patullo was the problem, why would AJ apparently still want to be traded? He was frustrated the year before with Moore because the passing game wasn't good then either.

B = they gave Mannion the ability to pick his staff, including OL coach. If Siri was the issue in Lurie/ Howie's minds ...then Stoutland would have had his butt kissed, a raise offered etc.

C = I thought it was obvious going into 2024 season ( when Ham's mind Siri was going to be fired and he thinks they wanted Belichek) Lurie/ Howie at that point took Siri's input.... While Ham denies, the reports were Moore was Siri's first choice as OC

D = Lurie/ Howie like the CEO type head coach, that's why they liked Andy, not for " great O mind " that's why they liked Doug, even though he was a great game day play caller.

And the biggest proof is the bad experience with Chip...who was supposed to be the hire due to all that O mind crap. They prefer a coach like Siri. Player's coach, overseeing everything on the large scale.

Do they like Hurts, sure...do they realize his limitations and flaws ...sure. Do they understand that before investing more in him, that they want to see him evolve...sure.

Do they prefer Hurts evolves...and they don't have to start over....sure.

Do they understand they need put themselves in a place for the alternative...absolutely!

Very well stated

34 minutes ago, Alpha_TATEr said:

to be clear, mainly for @cunninghamtheman's benefit because he's super, duper sensitive about hurts, i'm not a hurts hater, i'd actually consider myself a fan. that said, i see his shortcomings and i'm not afraid to point them out. i'm hopeful mannion can get him in the right mindset to open up to being a more complete qb.

Every Eagles fan should be like this. For the future of the organization it's the best scenario if Hurts steps up his game and they can keep him to avoid dead money and the unknown of the next QB.

But... he needs to step up, no doubt!

Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

Very well stated

The local radio poll yesterday...

Do the Eagles win WITH Hurts... or do they win BECAUSE of Hurts.

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10 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Ditto, but you know, we paid him for his legs, and last year's side deal basically nullified all that big loot. At 55 million a year, I expect to get the entire Ham, not just a few slices. My personal "conspiracy theory" is Mannion was hired to push Hurts and this years performance will decide what we do in 2027. That could also be cause to trade AJ for the round 1 '27 draft pick. Now with 2 round 1 picks in hand can anyone say "Arch Manning"? I knew that you could. Or possibly McKee. We shall see

I would rather hang on to AJ and trade Hurts in '27 who should bring a round 1 of it's own. But AJ is looking at some gas running out in a few years

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2 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

The local radio poll yesterday...

Do the Eagles win WITH Hurts... or do they win BECAUSE of Hurts.

My vote is "with". You could have made an argument it was "because" in the '24 season, but last year he stopped doing what we paid him for

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In '24 I used to rile Ham up when we tush pushed at the GL by saying "TD O line" LOL(still it's true)

3 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

The local radio poll yesterday...

Do the Eagles win WITH Hurts... or do they win BECAUSE of Hurts.

Conclusion =

66.4% the Eagles win WITH Hurts

33.6% the Eagles win BECAUSE of Hurts

I'm surprised by the results somewhat... but then not really because locally you have a lot of blind Hurts stans like Ham...so that high 33.6% doesn't shock me.

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