Damn. Rough week to be a QB

1 hour ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

To see if they could EFFECTIVELY play the position, why else would they do it? Kendall got some real time experience,so there's that

Assessing effectiveness is only one portion. Assessing efficiency and potential and fit were just as important goals of the experiment IMO.

1 hour ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Don't care what is he like RIGHT NOW? Did Ai work him out? Just because I suggest guys to bring in doesn't mean we sign them,that's what we have a staff for , so pick out other guys YOU want to try. it doesn't matter but we need BU line help anyhow. No matter what you say on here it's always wrong LOL

Your bolded statement above was not clear in your posts about Becton and Neal.

2 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Welp we have this cat named Barkley who needs holes to run through. he is NOT an east west RB. He is built for the line to push(physically, no "dancing") and open a hole to level 2 not take screens in the flat. So perhaps Bark is the wrong RB for this scheme,still with a physical O line he got 2000 yards so it's not Barkley that is the problem

Well said.

2 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Smitty was blanketed, throw the ball away. Hurts still has his field vision issues.

I disagree that Smitty was blanketed (in concept) but as Avant pointed out in thew video, Smitty did nor run the route optimally, but the shortcomings Jason points out happened after Hurts had already thrown the ball. Trusting the WRs will run the routes as designed is essential to an efficient and effective Offense.

1 hour ago, mjkline1958 said:

Glad to see Ertz back FINALLY! Should have been done weeks ago.

I would have liked to have seen Bell tried at LG, he played LT all through college - he & Mailata could move people on that side. Jurgens acquitted himself failly well for his 1st time there, but we need to dominate the line and open some holes for the run game.

Does Ertz's arrival give you confidence to make a score prediction?

14 minutes ago, mattwill said:

Does Ertz's arrival give you confidence to make a score prediction?

Ertz is the difference maker...Superbowl baby!

Gnats lost Dart to injury

3 minutes ago, joemas72 said:

Ertz is the difference maker...Superbowl baby!

I fully support the signing. The result is a work in process

27 minutes ago, mattwill said:

Assessing effectiveness is only one portion. Assessing efficiency and potential and fit were just as important goals of the experiment IMO.

I'm not going to nitpick over terminology. The staff made the decision to try a certain combination with the players they had available. Although it didn't pan out it may be the only combination we can put on the field. I tend to agree with 58 and see if Bell can play LG. He allowed no sacks at T in Miami. Him and Mailata could at least be a wall to give Hurts time even if they aren't going to open holes for Bark. Could be another combination we could try. Right now I am watching the relentless pass rush of the Rams

Week 2 and my fantasy teams are mostly decimated. Let the waiver wire work begin!!!! HAHA(sheet)

11 minutes ago, mattwill said:

I fully support the signing. The result os a work injury process

Stowers is lagging, that is the issue. He should be taking garbage time snaps not riding pine. IDK what the problem is with his learning curve but it's not there yet

1 hour ago, joemas72 said:

Ertz is the difference maker...Superbowl baby!

Are you "calling" it? LOL

6 hours ago, mattwill said:

The throw on the first one wasn’t bad. It was more meh than bad, and definitely far from good. It fell into the grey area between black and white.

Ham, oops I mean Matt.... If a QB sees a pass rusher coming and allows himself to get hit as he throws... does the QB have to take some responsibility for putting his throw in position to be possibly altered by the contact?

Also... after driving all the way down field on your first possession of a scoreless game... should a QB make a " meh" throw in the middle of the field, putting the ball at risk. Taking away the 3 points and the team taking the initial lead?

In other words, the idea that the QB didn't have any responsibility for either interception seems to be a reach. I mean, if that's the case, then you can make an excuse for almost every interception not being the QB's fault.

Now, do we give the defense some credit, absolutely... but the QB has responsibility on those plays to avoid being put in position to make that mistake. Taking a sack in either situation ... with the score of the game and field position, wouldn't be the end of the world. In fact, could have added 65 points to the Eagles score, and most likely taken away the initial TD for Tennessee after that 90 yards return.

1 minute ago, joemas72 said:

Ham, oops I mean Matt.... If a QB sees a pass rusher coming and allows himself to get hit as he throws... does the QB have to take some responsibility for putting his throw in position to be possibly altered by the contact?

Also... after driving all the way down field on your first possession of a scoreless game... should a QB make a " meh" throw in the middle of the field, putting the ball at risk. Taking away the 3 points and the team taking the initial lead?

In other words, the idea that the QB didn't have any responsibility for either interception seems to be a reach. I mean, if that's the case, then you can make an excuse for almost every interception not being the QB's fault.

Now, do we give the defense some credit, absolutely... but the QB has responsibility on those plays to avoid being put in position to make that mistake. Taking a sack in either situation ... with the score of the game and field position, wouldn't be the end of the world. In fact, could have added 65 points to the Eagles score, and most likely taken away the initial TD for Tennessee after that 90 yards return.

I mean... 6 points ...not 65. Would be awesome if we could add 65 points on two plays...lol

@mattwill Eagles 27 Da Bears 20

Q gets an INT

Off the record-Ertz 7 TD's

1 hour ago, mattwill said:

I fully support the signing. The result os a work injury process

I never have any issue with a practice squad signing. What do we have to lose. Maybe he even suits up and catches a pass?

1 hour ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

I'm not going to nitpick over terminology. The staff made the decision to try a certain combination with the players they had available. Although it didn't pan out it may be the only combination we can put on the field. I tend to agree with 58 and see if Bell can play LG. He allowed no sacks at T in Miami. Him and Mailata could at least be a wall to give Hurts time even if they aren't going to open holes for Bark. Could be another combination we could try. Right now I am watching the relentless pass rush of the Rams

Let me ask you.... if a player played one game at a position in a league.... do you think he will be much better prepared playing in his 2nd game?

Meaning... why wouldn't you think Jurgens could get better at LG? Add the fact of who he was lining up against in Tennessee. Don't you think it would only get easier for him in all aspects? Being familiar with the communication, playinf to the left of Kendell and next to Mailata?

To me, I highly doubt the idea was " hey this is going to give us the absolute best of Cam Jurgens at LG this week in Tennessee" You would think it was more to be viewed as a floor, not a ceiling.

1 hour ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

I'm not going to nitpick over terminology. The staff made the decision to try a certain combination with the players they had available. Although it didn't pan out it may be the only combination we can put on the field. I tend to agree with 58 and see if Bell can play LG. He allowed no sacks at T in Miami. Him and Mailata could at least be a wall to give Hurts time even if they aren't going to open holes for Bark. Could be another combination we could try. Right now I am watching the relentless pass rush of the Rams

How did it not pan out? Did they learn what they set out to learn?

1 hour ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Stowers is lagging, that is the issue. He should be taking garbage time snaps not riding pine. IDK what the problem is with his learning curve but it's not there yet

No, that is not IMO the issue. DG’s fragility is the issue … and the fact that the kind of TE that DG is do not grow on trees. To all intents and purposes there were zero such prospects in the 2026 Draft, which was supposed to be a very strong TE draft.

Sowers is a symptom of the disease, but not the actual disease itself.

35 minutes ago, joemas72 said:

Ham, oops I mean Matt.... If a QB sees a pass rusher coming and allows himself to get hit as he throws... does the QB have to take some responsibility for putting his throw in position to be possibly altered by the contact?

Also... after driving all the way down field on your first possession of a scoreless game... should a QB make a " meh" throw in the middle of the field, putting the ball at risk. Taking away the 3 points and the team taking the initial lead?

In other words, the idea that the QB didn't have any responsibility for either interception seems to be a reach. I mean, if that's the case, then you can make an excuse for almost every interception not being the QB's fault.

Now, do we give the defense some credit, absolutely... but the QB has responsibility on those plays to avoid being put in position to make that mistake. Taking a sack in either situation ... with the score of the game and field position, wouldn't be the end of the world. In fact, could have added 65 points to the Eagles score, and most likely taken away the initial TD for Tennessee after that 90 yards return.

Just call me Porky. Yes, there is some responsibility, but even more important is a risk/reward calculation. Every pass attempt contains a certain amount of risk. It is impossible to eliminate risk altogether. There is always a calculation of risk/reward, and a Michael Jordan appreciation of how important "Never up, Never in” is.

18 minutes ago, mattwill said:

How did it not pan out? Did they learn what they set out to learn?

They learned that they can't handle Simmons(which was probably a foregone conclusion). They certainly would not handle the Rams pass rush. There were no holes for the running game to be had. We learned that as well. If you call that success, then we really exceeded at this experiment and we are on target for post season. The players involved learned they have a long way to go. I learned that no matter what I say, you'll never be satisfied with my response

34 minutes ago, joemas72 said:

Let me ask you.... if a player played one game at a position in a league.... do you think he will be much better prepared playing in his 2nd game?

Meaning... why wouldn't you think Jurgens could get better at LG? Add the fact of who he was lining up against in Tennessee. Don't you think it would only get easier for him in all aspects? Being familiar with the communication, playinf to the left of Kendell and next to Mailata?

To me, I highly doubt the idea was " hey this is going to give us the absolute best of Cam Jurgens at LG this week in Tennessee" You would think it was more to be viewed as a floor, not a ceiling.

We had to put bodies on the field, nothing more than that. We already understand playing musical chairs with the O line does not breed success,but you do what you can with anyone who can stand upright

20 minutes ago, mattwill said:

No, that is not IMO the issue. DG’s fragility is the issue … and the fact that the kind of TE that DG is do not grow on trees. To all intents and purposes there were zero such prospects in the 2026 Draft, which was supposed to be a very strong TE draft.

Sowers is a symptom of the disease, but not the actual disease itself.

Few colleges teach blocking skills to TE's, but that's not what we drafted Stowers for, he is to be the TE1 pass catching TE but has not shown he even has that capability or he would not be on the "mystery" IR. He is either a slow learner or not able to transition to what is needed at the NFL level. If DG is fragile, we had no business signing a 36 year old coming off an injury, but here we are(love Ertz don't get me wrong but....). That's how bad the TE class was. Thus we signed Ertz because Stowers is the disease of failed college coaching staffs. These kids need to up their game after playing soft in college. It's wussy ball and big loot now, not like back when we were young

15 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

They learned that they can't handle Simmons(which was probably a foregone conclusion). They certainly would not handle the Rams pass rush. There were no holes for the running game to be had. We learned that as well. If you call that success, then we really exceeded at this experiment and we are on target for post season. The players involved learned they have a long way to go. I learned that no matter what I say, you'll never be satisfied with my response

I would also pont out that this "learning" experiment puts our #1 QB at risk with every snap we can't protect him on. If we expose Hurts as we did, we will learn how to operate this team with Andy Dalton. I don't view that as a successful experiment in which we learned much except that we failed. Do I have the answer, no I do not. As joe said possibly another week of training will help them play the positions because as I said this may be the only combination we can field right now