Andy Reid is the third highest paid coach in his own division. Isn’t that just insane? Him going there changed that whole organization. That team was tight on cash flow. Having this run of Championship success couldn’t of made a larger difference to any other franchise.

Sean Payton talked about how they were prepared to take Mahomes in that draft. Said they had Mahomes and Lattimore as their options they loved. Talked about how that draft the QB talk was all about all the others…Mahomes wasn’t. Chiefs traded up specifically ahead of them to get Mahomes. He did admit he wasn’t sure which player they would have chosen between Mahomes and Lattimore. But once the draft came to within the pick before them they were happy to know they’d get either option. So they didn’t feel the need to move up. Saints had probably their strongest draft that year. They loaded up on several really quality players. Yet still seemed to highlight how big the QB position is. Lattimore is an elite CB. Plus they got Ramsyck and some other very noticeable names. Yet even nailing a draft so well wasn’t enough to outweigh if they traded up and got Mahomes. Five quality…even elite players at other positions can’t counter missing out on Mahomes. 

Marathon Lattimore CB, T Ryan Ramcyzc, S Marcus Williams, RB Alvin Kamara, LB Hendrickson

  One heck of a draft. Better than any draft class I remember us putting together. But we’re one selection away from selecting Mahomes. Saints never accomplished much if anything with such a great draft after. Coach left. All opposite of what was likely to occur if they traded all those selections to move up one spot for Mahomes.

Back to Eagles news ....   seems Reddick was given permission to seek a trade.  This I see incase his agent thinks he is going to get $30 mil per season like some on here do.

When he comes back down to reality, I'm sure a reasonable extension will be agreed upon.

Rosie just has to change his thinking here. Still nowhere near getting over us losing the last SB. Never get a more ideal scenario and situation of having a season so ripe for our taking. Much more talented than the Chiefs. But they had the TE and Slot WR. Countered with Pacheco. We had our most quality LB and S situation going. Very experienced and quality Edwards and White at LB. Epps and added CGJ at S. But they looked nonexistent against the Chiefs O. All they had was Kelce. Juju in the slot isn’t some massive weapon. Pacheco isn’t an elite RB. Yet that’s all it took to abuse our D. Just not going along with the belief in not appreciating the center of the D personnel. Had an alltime pass rush. Big time CBs. Yet that philosophy of D personnel prioritization was completely proven a false belief. Couldn’t even make them punt the whole second half. That was the best center of D year we’ve put together even. Bringing in White. Holding on to Edwards. Desperate Trading for CJG. There was no surprise in what the Chiefs would try to do ever. Feed Kelce. Juju pretty much the only other option. We couldn’t even make it close to challenging for them. 

3 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Rosie just has to change his thinking here. Still nowhere near getting over us losing the last SB. Never get a more ideal scenario and situation of having a season so ripe for our taking. Much more talented than the Chiefs. But they had the TE and Slot WR. Countered with Pacheco. We had our most quality LB and S situation going. Very experienced and quality Edwards and White at LB. Epps and added CGJ at S. But they looked nonexistent against the Chiefs O. All they had was Kelce. Juju in the slot isn’t some massive weapon. Pacheco isn’t an elite RB. Yet that’s all it took to abuse our D. Just not going along with the belief in not appreciating the center of the D personnel. Had an alltime pass rush. Big time CBs. Yet that philosophy of D personnel prioritization was completely proven a false belief. Couldn’t even make them punt the whole second half. That was the best center of D year we’ve put together even. Bringing in White. Holding on to Edwards. Desperate Trading for CJG. There was no surprise in what the Chiefs would try to do ever. Feed Kelce. Juju pretty much the only other option. We couldn’t even make it close to challenging for them. 

They have Mahomes....we have Hurts.  Not close..other than running.

If managing the cap isn’t the huge failure that surrendered our season to only affording Terrell Edmunds and Nicholas Morrow? Then it’s just incompetence and ignorance. Rumors swirled around we were the main players in pulling off the Patrick Queen trade. That we just wouldn’t cough up enough to make the move happen. Lost out on Marcus Williams in FA over pay. Lost CGJ over hard ball pay failure. The guy accepted what? Like 1 year 5 mil contract. How could we have not been willing to pay him more than that? Instead pay way more to both older CBs. 

2 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

They have Mahomes....we have Hurts.  Not close..other than running.

Hurts was easily the better player in that SB. Overall I’m not saying Hurts is better than Mahomes. Mahomes is still young and already earned consideration for the best player ever. Can’t get a higher bar of comparison than Mahomes. But clearly that day…Hurts was on fire and the bigger weapon. You can use historical stats and all that saying Mahomes is better than Hurts. What you can’t do is rewatch that SB with anybody else and convince them the difference in the Chiefs and Eagles that day was Mahomes over Hurts. Mahomes job was so incredibly easy. Easy passes to Kelce and JuJu wide open. They ran the same play to score two TDs we left the guy unguarded. Not even talking the WR gained a step on our defender. Nobody even attempted coverage. What Hurts did in that game was far from easy. He had to make the difficult spectacular happen.

I only remember like one great throw and catch along the sideline that Mahomes and Kelce completed. As unbelievable as Mahomes can be…he didn’t have all those insane highlights in that SB. Seen him throw at all kinds of angles. Throw with his left hand even. Make some cannon armed throws. He totally has all those tools and has done those things. But not what happened against us. He just threw short passes to the same guys over and over again. Easy completions because they were wide open. Not like had half a step open. Not tight window NFL open even. Any level of football wide open.

Mahomes was actually more what you’d call a game managing type QB. Just accurate on short quick passes. They had the knowledge from AR of just attacking the center of our D. Quick passing attack. Nullified our elite pass rush. Took advantage of our passing pass coverage anywhere near the line of scrimmage. 

Mahomes did have two big gains with his legs in that game. Those and one throw along the sideline that the best TE ever made the catch on. Show me anything spectacular that Mahomes did in that game otherwise. Mahomes is sick! But it didn’t take any Mahomes level of QB play to do what he did that day. Just being accurate on short passes to open receivers. That is a skill. But not one that even would qualify any QB for being at an NFL level. Wasn’t because of some amazing scrambling and then tossing a 70 yard pass. He wasn’t zipping Favre-esque lasers between two defenders in tight coverage. Just dropping the ball off to open targets. Predictably open expecting the throws and targets presnap even. Quick throw to Kelce or JuJu. 

Doesn’t take Mahomes to throw a quick pass to the best TE ever. Especially the way we never even managed to challenge those plays. No idea what the D game plan was. Still to this day. What else should the game plan have been other than to focus on Kelce. Bump him at the line. With a double team. Heck triple team. Make contact off the line. Have a second level defender behind that. If he was pulling down contested balls against two defenders? You can live with that. But they really didn’t have anything else to turn to. Mahomes and Kelce are so special and elite. I wouldn’t say otherwise. No version we forced them to play at those levels to abuse our D endlessly. Make the easy short throw and catch. All we forced the two best ever to accomplish to put up massive points on us.

They didn’t even have any other options. A WR room that made JuJu look like a big deal. Can you describe him as anything more than just average?

Pointing out how that happened to our best setup for the center of the D. Not going along with Rosie or his puppet fans that preach his beliefs on this. These same fans that believed we were contenders this season. With no LBing. Very light S room being carried by a second year undrafted kid from the small school. 

So if you thought we were contenders this season? Don’t  care if it was even fueled by squeaking out wins each week to achieve 10-1. You need to rethink how? Can point to several areas. Coaching I’ve hammered home upmost. Our team clearly dropped notches from just last season even. Making it all the more glaringly obvious I believed. But if you thought we were legit contenders….with such a weak center of the D? Just here to point out the obvious reality here for you. Even with a very optimistic view on Dean, Slay and Bradberry.

Couldn’t budge on half as much money for the S in his prime instead paying twice as much to watch Bradberry completely fall off the cliff declining from age. Pay one of the quality S. Trade for Queen. Let Slay and Bradberry walk instead. Actually be cheaper providing funds to help elsewhere. There is a whole other way of doing things. A whole other very sensible logic out there. Feel a need to break off from this slurped up bad Rosie logic. Not sure how so many have accepted the , for lack of a better term, brainwashing from Rosie.

56 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Back to Eagles news ....   seems Reddick was given permission to seek a trade.  This I see incase his agent thinks he is going to get $30 mil per season like some on here do.

When he comes back down to reality, I'm sure a reasonable extension will be agreed upon.

He is an elite pass rush specialist. The top pay is 34 mil to Bosa average annually. Reddick signed making 15 mil average. That’s a crazy huge divide. 

Rosie Magic Contract usual situation here. Even on a fantastic contract signing deal getting Reddick for 15 mil per. But now we are faced with all the backloaded end of his contract. Cap wise overwhelmingly most of his pay is still ahead. Facing 21 mil cap hit in 2024. A bunch of money on the cap after his contract we still owe also. I haven’t read anybody even speaking about Reddick getting 30 mil. He’s performed at what can really only be described as elite and special levels. Most any other players or situations you’d usually be easily discussing that player getting top dollar. Doesn’t take being the best to usually get paid. Mostly more about timing and it just being that players turn to get paid. You know….considering the contracts only just keep rising at near insane levels.

We have a large cap hit on Reddick in 2024. The kind of direct hit you,No Mas, bash the Cowboys over suffering. But not even just that level Cowboy cap hit this year to absorb…all the dead money built in on purpose from the get go of writing his contract. Even such a great move and signing choosing and landing an elite pass rusher at half price we still have to face this contract philosophical issue over. We are stuck in a bad situation now…over such a fantastic steal of a FA signing. Talking best case scenario pretty much with Reddick. Played at a level to consider him contending for D player of the Year last year. Got that guy cheap. But now stuck facing so much of his cap money ahead. Kills Rosie’s leverage here. We are the ones that need to do something with him. We need to extend him to push his money even further to the future. Or facing having to lose such a quality talent. If only the problem was he was looking for 34 mil a season that the market price is set on. Could easily reason losing a player commanding so much money. But I haven’t heard he’s looking for anything like that. Clearly earned a raise over 15 mil per of his current contract. 

Frankly thought Reddick really did us a huge favor by not making a massive ordeal this past season to receive a raise. Think it would have just been considered normal by most players to have done that. He’s a player at a point in his career to achieve his last big contract signing opportunity. So I can’t blame him at all at this point. Respect massively what he did playing for us sucking things up this last season. So now we have few choices with him here. Our leverage pretty much sucks. Best option is to let other teams negotiate with his agent to work out how much of a raise he needs to get here. We aren’t paying the obvious top market price to an elite player of 34 mil. Paying elite players top market price is in ways the easier contracts to negotiate. How much less than 34 mil we could pay him will be up to his options. He needs to test the market league wide. Only way he’ll be happy accepting whatever he ends up receiving. Why would he even just take hard negotiations only from Rosie to accept 24 mil a season? 10 mil less than top of his market at his position. I very seriously doubt Reddick views himself as anything less than elite. So our only chance is to hope no other team ponies up more than 25 mil for him. He has to accept 10 mil less than Bosa…or whatever the actual difference ends up to be…if that’s the best offer he receives. But can’t blame him for needing to explore all options before accepting that contract.

25 mil is crazy huge money to make in a year. It only doesn’t seem that way in this situation. Elite NFL player money. That 24 mil is 10 mil less than the comparison same position player. In that setting 24 mil is cheap. I’d be blissful over ever receiving a 1 mil contract. But not remotely the discussion here.

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Frankly thought Reddick really did us a huge favor by not making a massive ordeal this past season to receive a raise.

One consideration could be is he knew he had a legit shot at a ring and felt the compensation was sufficient. IDK just guessing. 

Crazy finish

8 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Hurts was easily the better player in that SB. Overall I’m not saying Hurts is better than Mahomes. Mahomes is still young and already earned consideration for the best player ever. Can’t get a higher bar of comparison than Mahomes. But clearly that day…Hurts was on fire and the bigger weapon. You can use historical stats and all that saying Mahomes is better than Hurts. What you can’t do is rewatch that SB with anybody else and convince them the difference in the Chiefs and Eagles that day was Mahomes over Hurts. Mahomes job was so incredibly easy. Easy passes to Kelce and JuJu wide open. They ran the same play to score two TDs we left the guy unguarded. Not even talking the WR gained a step on our defender. Nobody even attempted coverage. What Hurts did in that game was far from easy. He had to make the difficult spectacular happen.

Hurts gave KC a free 7 points...Mahomes was flawless in his game management.  Not close 

8 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Mahomes was actually more what you’d call a game managing type QB. Just accurate on short quick passes. They had the knowledge from AR of just attacking the center of our D. Quick passing attack. Nullified our elite pass rush. Took advantage of our passing pass coverage anywhere near the line of scrimmage. 

What I would call the winning QB.