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13 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Seems like we’ve spent a round two pick twice on C recently. That was with Kelce staying even.

SO with 2 round 2 investments why would we continue to invest until we know if one of the other 2 (or both) work out? My round 1 pick starts-period

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13 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Think it’s the get paid or not gap divide. Top elite guys. Then not franchise starters. Swift the singular option in between.

There are zero "elite" RB's in this draft. I'm fine with Davis in round 5. Re-sign swift,add Mattison in FA and we have Gains still. Davis to the PS,your starters would be Swift,Gains and Mattison. We could do worse and it's not a horrendous amount of money

We are cutting Bryd that another what like 14m-15m in cap space freed up

11 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

There are zero "elite" RB's in this draft. I'm fine with Davis in round 5. Re-sign swift,add Mattison in FA and we have Gains still. Davis to the PS,your starters would be Swift,Gains and Mattison. We could do worse and it's not a horrendous amount of money

Do we need an elite RB???? Rather buy more for a Barkley then bring back swift personally if we going the FA route… otherwise rather get a guy like Elliott/Mattison would work too and draft a RB 

If we are going to pay a RB would rather have a guy that can be on the field for all three downs and for that need a guy that can pass protect and not be a liability like Swift in that area. 

1 hour ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

That's how you know who the top guys are LOL. LAWD HEP me here

Not if you know a thing or two about football. See plenty of these players development taking place as expected.

1 hour ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Right so he "proved it" Now you can sign him again if you want

Moving on

I’m thinking  just bring in like a Donte Foreman and AJ Dillon type FA RBs.

Zach Moss, Trayveon Williams or Antonio Gibson….

1 hour ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

No,but Ham wanted to draft one in round 1. There are no round 1 worthy RB's in this draft,let alone"elite"

I never said anything like that

 

4.43 for my LB prospect I’m real high on…smokin!

 

Can you say climbing the draft boards boys and girls?

2 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Barkley will want too much money.and Howie won't pay it

You’re not wrong but the point was I’d rather pay the 9-10m a year price for  a 3 down guy like Barkley then 7m for guy like Swift who is a liability in pass protection and reasons we seen gainwell in key spots over the season.

RBBC fine with also but we can go cheaper and get similar production as to swift… Moss from the Colts could be another nice add mid round RB in the draft… Singletsry from the Texans possibly, take a flier on Dobbins hopefully he can stay healthy, CEH been a bust for KC but only 24 former 1st rounder 

38 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

 

Lmao since I’m not the old interesting side note grew up with Jordan Magee Lb from temple used to play pickup basketball with him… crazy seeing him at the combine going to get drafted… would be lying if my bias isn’t there for him to get draft by us either 

17 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

You’re not wrong but the point was I’d rather pay the 9-10m a year price for  a 3 down guy like Barkley then 7m for guy like Swift who is a liability in pass protection and reasons we seen gainwell in key spots over the season.

RBBC fine with also but we can go cheaper and get similar production as to swift… Moss from the Colts could be another nice add mid round RB in the draft… Singletsry from the Texans possibly, take a flier on Dobbins hopefully he can stay healthy, CEH been a bust for KC but only 24 former 1st rounder 

Sounds like you have similar ideas to my thoughts on this subject. Think you are lowballing Saquan here. Pretty much not worth my efforts to even contemplate us retaining Swift. I really am not much of a fan of signing players to contracts when I believe they are sitting on their high ceiling mark. Exactly how I see Swift’s situation. But feel the need to point out the obvious here about him. Even at his high after having a Pro Bowl season….6 mil per annually is likely all it will cost to retain him. Which isn’t even large backup rotational money for other positions.

I’d choose the two young vet FA RBs. Probably spend about the same on two as just Swift.

5 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Think you are lowballing Saquan here.

I think 10m range sounds about right for Barkley … But he is hard to gauge it’s a guy that is 27 coming off a down season, has injury history but the upside if he is healthy on a way better team could sway things as well. There is always a chance teams are willing to over pay. But like you said it wont be us why I also don’t think we will pay Swift 

Gainwell I don’t consider guaranteed to pan out even. Whole new O now for him to learn. So much is his positives are now lost in the coaching switch.

1 minute ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

I think 10m range sounds about right for Barkley … But he is hard to gauge it’s a guy that is 27 coming off a down season, has injury history but the upside if he is healthy on a way better team could sway things as well. There is always a chance teams are willing to over pay. But like you said it wont be us why I also don’t think we will pay Swift 

I don’t see 10 as overpaying for Saquan. He’s a leader and strong character type person.

2 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

I think 10m range sounds about right for Barkley … But he is hard to gauge it’s a guy that is 27 coming off a down season, has injury history but the upside if he is healthy on a way better team could sway things as well. There is always a chance teams are willing to over pay. But like you said it wont be us why I also don’t think we will pay Swift 

Think we got to get serious here. Not so general thinking about league wide…and what so many other teams will choose to need to do. Our goals should be very specific. Easily identify our main focus. Always need to build within and concentrate on ourselves all around. But been pretty darn cut and dry situation for us. Seems like it’s been going on for years. Our mission is to beat the Cowboys and the Niners.

What’s it going to take to beat Dallas and Santa Clara?

Any players that give us a distinct advantage in those two matchups are worth twice as much to us as any so called  market.

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I don’t see 10 as overpaying for Saquan. He’s a leader and strong character type person.

These are great traits for guys to have but we aren’t paying a guy 10m+ to be a strong character and leader lol…. You pay guys to perform….  Also said 10m is about the right range and stated I would not be shocked if a team overpaid him meaning Barkley gets an offer to be paid around Kamara or CMC in that what 14-16m range or even give him highest paid RB money of a teams desperate enough 

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