5 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

 

Then what am I looking at here??? Be nice if you listed the position so we know

13 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Doing that accomplished the opposite actually. Trade for him very cheap. Even with his price tag being such a key favorable part of trading for him last season. Hindsight now clearly shows that the smart move would have been extending Swift immediately instead. Swift just made the Pro Bowl. Can’t even picture Swift’s leverage growing any higher than it is right now.

Why would you extend him before you saw results??

Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

extending Swift immediately instead. Swift just made the Pro Bowl.

SO what he didn't make the pro bowl and you extended him and he fell flat?

OK since you made ME look it up Johnson,why would you spend a round 1 on A C if Kelce is going to play another year(or 2) I'm all for finding a nice C/G who can compete for the RG job,but there is zero way I spend a round 1 pick on one unless I have everything else I need(and we don't). Let another team waste their pick

35 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

My feelings are this FA class of RB has good options for cheap. Some good hungry RBs that are just entering their prime. Several that have that Pro experience already. But haven’t broken out enough to command big money.

Right.... at this point IMO the RB market is plentiful.  This should keep costs down.    

4 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Then what am I looking at here??? Be nice if you listed the position so we know

I’ve talked about him a few times. He’s a very highly regarded prospect. Would think you’d have run across him somewhere in all your draft scouting.

If you look up the names or watch any of the highlight clips I posted I’d think it was extremely clear what position he plays.

4 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Why would you extend him before you saw results??

It’s always much more expensive to pay guys after they’ve proven more worth league wide.

4 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Why would you extend him before you saw results??

Same type reasoning behind why they traded for him,

4 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

SO what he didn't make the pro bowl and you extended him and he fell flat?

That’s all a part of negotiations. Make good deals. Earlier you recognize quality the better.

4 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

SO what he didn't make the pro bowl and you extended him and he fell flat?

I don’t care much about him making the Pro Bowl. It just is a very obvious league wide notification of his value having climbed massively.

4 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

OK since you made ME look it up Johnson,why would you spend a round 1 on A C if Kelce is going to play another year(or 2) I'm all for finding a nice C/G who can compete for the RG job,but there is zero way I spend a round 1 pick on one unless I have everything else I need(and we don't). Let another team waste their pick

Seems like we’ve spent a round two pick twice on C recently. That was with Kelce staying even.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Seems like we’ve spent a round two pick twice on C recently. That was with Kelce staying even.

But how about a later first round pick? Get the guy that doesn’t have the durability question marks that Dickerson fell over. Has much more upside than Cam.

This pick I’m suggesting takes over at RG immediately at the least in my view.

4 hours ago, joemas6 said:

Right.... at this point IMO the RB market is plentiful.  This should keep costs down.    

Think it’s the get paid or not gap divide. Top elite guys. Then not franchise starters. Swift the singular option in between.

4 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

They also have Trotter as the 2nd round 2 which once again is right where I have him. he seems to be falling however,so he could need replacing soon if that continues. I will wait for the combine. He will either solidify his spot or he will fall further. There is something they are seeing that I am apparently missing

With Trotter I’d think it’s his speed. 

22 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

If you look up the names or watch any of the highlight clips I posted I’d think it was extremely clear what position he plays.

Agreed...looking up stuff helps.  You should do it when it comes to contracts and salary cap stuff before you make your posts about it, that are incorrect. 

22 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

It’s always much more expensive to pay guys after they’ve proven more worth league wide.

Don't you think the players and agents feel the same and why some would prefer NOT to sign an extension until after they prove it? 

16 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Think it’s the get paid or not gap divide. Top elite guys. Then not franchise starters. Swift the singular option in between.

Who gets paid out of the group of RBs?

What do you think Swift gets?  I think Sanders and Pollard contracts from last year.. along with the amount of RBs that are on the market bring the prices down. 

Just an awful contract for Carolina with Sanders .. and brutal 10 million tag for Pollard.  Awful decisions by those teams that will cause some hesitation for teams to pay.

21 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

SO define "best player"  If a top 5 QB drops to 22 do you take him?. If harrison drops to 22 do you take him? And give up spots you have holes at? Mocks are not stupid,they give you insight to players you maybe never heard of which causes you to look them up. Draftek is mock drafts 325 days a year. Scouting never stops now except to watch the SB 1/2 time show. Do you know who Harrison even is? If not,you should,,if you do,then where does he fall and how does that affect your teams pick? Can you name the top 20 draftees off the top of your head without looking? If not,you refer to a mock to find out. I do them ALL the time,so I am stupid but I bet I  know more players that fall in our range than you do and who is out of reach when we are on the clock. Doesn't so so stupid to me,so when I post a mock just ignore my stupidity

My post was not a shot at anyone here. I just think they are stupid. Personal opinion is all. 
I think you pay a LOT of scouts to put a draft board and list together. I would not listen nor refer to Mel Kiper or Todd Mcshay or any of those bozos. I would hire guys that know what to look for and have them advocate for draft board lists.

Then I would take the best player available with that list as a strategy. Period. Hell yeah I would take a QB if he was my best player available at 22. Same with Harrison. Holes, can be filled with free agents. Every team is going to have holes no matter what. Teams that draft for need and REACH for a position usually lose in the draft. Thats the reason I would always stick with that strategy.

So please don’t take offense. Definitely NOT calling you or anyone stupid. Calling the talking heads (ESPN, ETC) obsession with mock drafts stupid.

21 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Wilson blows,why would you want that loser here? Why is he being run out of Denver already? Let's bring in Manziel

Wilson does blow, but he’s a prior SB champ that would be CHEAP for a backup. Cannot be worse than Mariota.

LB/Edge rusher from UCLA looks like a future STUD!

In a shocking move.. Eagles release Byard... lol

 

13 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

It’s always much more expensive to pay guys after they’ve proven more worth league wide.

That's how you know who the top guys are LOL. LAWD HEP me here

13 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I don’t care much about him making the Pro Bowl. It just is a very obvious league wide notification of his value having climbed massively.

Right so he "proved it" Now you can sign him again if you want