3 hours ago, MediterraneanDiet said:

He's only 26 and has probably been all.football all the time since he was what, 16 years old?  Did you begin your career at 16?

He now gets to reset and start another career and have his chance to have to remain in a job after the passion is gone because he needs the job to pay the bills.  

Wow, 10 whole years. Yeah you got me, I've been working since 16 and in the same career for 35 years. I played football through high school as well and only wish I had the talent to play in the NFL. 

Not sure why it would surprise anyone that non football players hate their jobs for a lot longer than football players.

5 minutes ago, greend said:

Wow, 10 whole years. Yeah you got me, I've been working since 16 and in the same career for 35 years. I played football through high school as well and only wish I had the talent to play in the NFL. 

Not sure why it would surprise anyone that non football players hate their jobs for a lot longer than football players.

Losing passion can be real though. Maybe football was fun to him growing up, but when you’re at the top it’s no longer fun and it’s just work.

Just now, WentzFan11 said:

Losing passion can be real though. Maybe football was fun to him growing up, but when you’re at the top it’s no longer fun and it’s just work.

no doubt, but I wouldn't waste the opportunity to make as much money at it while I could. That said it still beats 75% of the normal people jobs in the world

10 minutes ago, greend said:

Wow, 10 whole years. Yeah you got me, I've been working since 16 and in the same career for 35 years. I played football through high school as well and only wish I had the talent to play in the NFL. 

Not sure why it would surprise anyone that non football players hate their jobs for a lot longer than football players.

Big deal.  Most of us have been working since our teenage years.  Is it impossible for you to comprehend that a football player may actually dislike their job and can't wait to stop playing? 

22 hours ago, Asg 15 said:

Any of you guys in NC feel the earthquake?

My wife and I didn't notice anything.  My kids said the felt it.  

4 minutes ago, greend said:

no doubt, but I wouldn't waste the opportunity to make as much money at it while I could. That said it still beats 75% of the normal people jobs in the world

You don’t know his life though. Maybe he did save what he needs and is in a much better place now. If it’s not fun and its a medical risk, then I see no reason why he can’t just walk away now. 

5 minutes ago, greend said:

no doubt, but I wouldn't waste the opportunity to make as much money at it while I could. That said it still beats 75% of the normal people jobs in the world

My sense was that there were some injuries that played a role in the decision.  I mean the physical toll can certainly trump any pay check.  

18 hours ago, greendestiny27 said:

This team’s view and roster selection at linebacker is straight up embarrassing 

Nice pro evaluation Howie lol.... F’n joke. He will join the long list of LB flops yet the one that they actually hit on in LJ Fort they cut!!! Can’t even make up how bad that is... 

 

 

actually hit on they cut in LJ Fort... Can’t even make it up. Embarrassment 

No they didn't, he was a terrible fit transferring to the 4-2 base we run.  He's a 3-4 ILB.  Just because someone has success else where doesn't mean they'd have the same anywhere. 

Big 10 and PAC 12 voted to cancel the season. SEC is holding out hope and pushing to play. 

College football is getting political. 

17 hours ago, bpac55 said:

Makes no sense at all.  Lazy reporting.  Here's a team that never blitzes linebackers, craves speed and athleticism so let's link them to an aging, skill declining linebacker who's best trait was blitzing.

He's well past aging, but in a weird way he might have been one of the most under appreciated players in the past 10 years ability wise.  The dude in his prime could play any LB position in a 3/4 or 4/3 if asked. The fact that he switched to ILB at the age he did and produced like he did was simply astounding IMO.

8 minutes ago, Wentz_Era said:

No they didn't, he was a terrible fit transferring to the 4-2 base we run.  He's a 3-4 ILB.  Just because someone has success else where doesn't mean they'd have the same anywhere. 

Agreed. Scheme fit, role, etc. are often overlooked. 

Howie!

28 minutes ago, greend said:

no doubt, but I wouldn't waste the opportunity to make as much money at it while I could. That said it still beats 75% of the normal people jobs in the world

There's a very real physical price to pay with this game and the price gets higher the further you go. We don't know if he had any concussions for example, or surgeries. If he is willing to forego the income I respect him for it.

I've told this story before but it bears repeating here. Some years ago my wife and I were dining at a restaurant in Washington - Tomato - and Larry Brown, former great RB with that team, was sitting at a nearby table with some friends. We were maybe 20 feet from the door. They finished before us and it took him nearly 10 minutes to stand up and walk those 20 feet. I kid you not.

13 hours ago, Allhaildawk said:

The inverse of this and the Fort debate are what drove me crazy about the earl thomas/BG/Nate Allen and all the other draft debates drive me insane. The idea that earl thomas would have been the player he was here or the idea that Nate Allen wouldn’t have been a better player in the legion of boom simply isn’t based on anything. 

I honestly think Thomas would have went down as one of the biggest busts in Eagles history had we traded up for him.  It took him about 5 years to become a complete safety.  He couldn't tackle his first few years in the league and a lot of people just don't understand how good prime Kam was.  Kam basically carried that secondary.  He was anything but the box safety that people painted him as.  Sadly his career followed the same (slightly longer) trajectory as Easely, who I think Kam was just as good as (and I think Easely might be the GOAT if not top 3 S's of all time).

1 hour ago, ManuManu said:

 

I figured Riley was ahead of Brown for the third LB position all along.  Brown looked good his first season but once teams got film on him, his play and then playing time slipped.  Riley had one season as a starter at Atlanta but got injured. His second season, he lost his starting WIL position.  My biggest concern with him is his size.  I figure in Atlanta with Deon Jones playing MIKE at 220, Riley was a bit small.  Problem for the Eagles is when they go 4-3, does Gerry play SAM?  I just don’t see Riley as anything but a WIL, which hurts him as a backup. But he was getting some snaps at the end of the year. Mostly in dime situations.  So he could be an Ike Reese type.  My guess is he is holding the spot that will eventually be Taylor’s. Singleton and Bradley duke it out for backup SAM and MIKE.  Those two need to be able to play all three positions and STs and could push Riley.  Will the Eagles keep five of six  LBs?

 

3 minutes ago, Wentz_Era said:

I honestly think Thomas would have went down as one of the biggest busts in Eagles history had we traded up for him.  It took him about 5 years to become a complete safety.  He couldn't tackle his first few years in the league and a lot of people just don't understand how good prime Kam was.  Kam basically carried that secondary.  He was anything but the box safety that people painted him as.  Sadly his career followed the same (slightly longer) trajectory as Easely, who I think Kam was just as good as (and I think Easely might be the GOAT if not top 3 S's of all time).

Certainly two of the all-time greats. I would rank Wes Hopkins, pre-injury, up there too.

8 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

I figured Riley was ahead of Brown for the third LB position all along.  Brown looked good his first season but once teams got film on him, his play and then playing time slipped.  Riley had one season as a starter at Atlanta but got injured. His second season, he lost his starting WIL position.  My biggest concern with him is his size.  I figure in Atlanta with Deon Jones playing MIKE at 220, Riley was a bit small.  Problem for the Eagles is when they go 4-3, does Gerry play SAM?  I just don’t see Riley as anything but a WIL, which hurts him as a backup. But he was getting some snaps at the end of the year. Mostly in dime situations.  So he could be an Ike Reese type.  My guess is he is holding the spot that will eventually be Taylor’s. Singleton and Bradley duke it out for backup SAM and MIKE.  Those two need to be able to play all three positions and STs and could push Riley.  Will the Eagles keep five of six  LBs?

Keeping six would mean cutting a much better player at another position.

3 minutes ago, justrelax said:

Certainly two of the all-time greats. I would rank Wes Hopkins, pre-injury, up there too.

It does suck that the sample size for Hopkins pre-injury was so small.  Granted Easely and Hopkins were before my time, but it doesn't take a trained eye to look back at things and realize how special certain players were.  Especially in an era where no disrespect to him, but the Ronnie Lotts of the day ruled.  Same as 2000-2006 Dawk was just special.

42 minutes ago, Shocker54 said:

Yo I'm be ready for football one monith away. Imma get me a case of hen for September. 

That seems like a lot of liquor for 3 games.  

10 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Keeping six would mean cutting a much better player at another position.

Also with the expanded practice squad rules, it seems like they could easily stash a player on practice squad. 

 

8 minutes ago, Wentz_Era said:

It does suck that the sample size for Hopkins pre-injury was so small.  Granted Easely and Hopkins were before my time, but it doesn't take a trained eye to look back at things and realize how special certain players were.  Especially in an era where no disrespect to him, but the Ronnie Lotts of the day ruled.  Same as 2000-2006 Dawk was just special.

Dawkins was special and something you only see once every couple of decades. Like we were given a awesome gift from the football gods to get to watch him play the majority of his career here. Add on he was a great dude off the field and got the fan base. 
 

that said The eagles defense from 2000-2004 was special in general. They had some really good defenses when guys got hurt and still played at a high level. Like 2003 we had a bunch of injuries, some LBs that frankly shouldn’t have been out there to begin with and we managed to just give up 17 and 14 points in the two playoff games. the year we lost to the rams in the nfc title game they played an entire 16 game schedule without giving up more than 21 points. Only time they did was that NFC title game to one of the best offenses in nfl history. 

4 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

 

I’m expecting the nfl to capitalize on no college football on saturdays and have games on Saturday. Make sure they have games on Thursday, Saturday, Sunday and Monday.