July 7Jul 7 3 minutes ago, Procus said:I'm not the one caught with my pants down after supporting the neo-turd. Admittedly, I was curious if the Dems could power through a clearly flawed candidate with a strong message. Unfortunately, this one was a bridge too far. But at least I'm not in the party where absolutely no one is calling for this sick pedo to step down:
July 7Jul 7 Was anyone in here super pro-Platner? He was an interesting story because of his background and the fact that Schumer's lack of endorsement seemed to actually give him a boost in the race, but I'm pretty sure the tattoo was a hard stop for everyone in here. But admittedly I haven't been on as much recently. Hell @Bill has been calling him out from day 1 before most of us knew F all about him.
July 7Jul 7 2 hours ago, DEagle7 said:Was anyone in here super pro-Platner? He was an interesting story because of his background and the fact that Schumer's lack of endorsement seemed to actually give him a boost in the race, but I'm pretty sure the tattoo was a hard stop for everyone in here. But admittedly I haven't been on as much recently. Hell @Bill has been calling him out from day 1 before most of us knew F all about him.
July 7Jul 7 3 hours ago, DEagle7 said:Was anyone in here super pro-Platner? He was an interesting story because of his background and the fact that Schumer's lack of endorsement seemed to actually give him a boost in the race, but I'm pretty sure the tattoo was a hard stop for everyone in here. But admittedly I haven't been on as much recently. Hell @Bill has been calling him out from day 1 before most of us knew F all about him.The thing with Platner is that he's a very specific type of guy that growing up in a rural area you can pinpoint who he is.The tattoo in and of itself should have been an immediate dis-qualifier. I do not at all buy that he just thought it "looked cool", especially from a self-proclaimed WWII buff. Even at best, getting that would show that he is a complete and total drunken idiot. At worst, is, well, very bad.Going with the at best scenario, he is a grown up alcoholic rich kid who is a complete a-hole and makes idiotic decisions, which is not at all preferable.I think the problem with the far left is that they have a noble savage view of the blue collar working man, and Platner was "blue collar" with his oyster farm (that was bought for him by his parents), and that tattoo incident was just "the roughness around the edges that blue collar men have", which it wasn't, because the far left base is downwardly mobile middle class kids who got a college degree and moved to the city, and the only interaction they have with the working class is when their building super fixes their leaky faucet.At the end of the day it's downwardly mobile middle class millennials being lead around by champagne socialist rich kids (like Mamdani and AOC), and nobody there "gets" working class Americans. That whole thing with the tattoo made me peg him as a drunken POS, which it's now coming out that he very obviously is.
July 8Jul 8 Perhaps its for the best and they can replace him with someone good. However it should be painfully obvious that whether this woman was raped or not, she waited until after he won the primary to come out with this as a coordinated political move in conjunction with the republicans. I mean if he was really the monster she claims he is, why not go public with this when he first announced his candidacy?
July 8Jul 8 1 hour ago, Gannan said:she waited until after he won the primary to come out with this as a coordinated political move in conjunction with the republicans.
July 8Jul 8 2 hours ago, Bill said:The thing with Platner is that he's a very specific type of guy that growing up in a rural area you can pinpoint who he is.The tattoo in and of itself should have been an immediate dis-qualifier. I do not at all buy that he just thought it "looked cool", especially from a self-proclaimed WWII buff. Even at best, getting that would show that he is a complete and total drunken idiot. At worst, is, well, very bad.Going with the at best scenario, he is a grown up alcoholic rich kid who is a complete a-hole and makes idiotic decisions, which is not at all preferable.I think the problem with the far left is that they have a noble savage view of the blue collar working man, and Platner was "blue collar" with his oyster farm (that was bought for him by his parents), and that tattoo incident was just "the roughness around the edges that blue collar men have", which it wasn't, because the far left base is downwardly mobile middle class kids who got a college degree and moved to the city, and the only interaction they have with the working class is when their building super fixes their leaky faucet.At the end of the day it's downwardly mobile middle class millennials being lead around by champagne socialist rich kids (like Mamdani and AOC), and nobody there "gets" working class Americans.That whole thing with the tattoo made me peg him as a drunken POS, which it's now coming out that he very obviously is.AOC was a rich kid? Her dad was an architect and her mom drove a school bus.
July 8Jul 8 3 hours ago, Gannan said:Perhaps its for the best and they can replace him with someone good. However it should be painfully obvious that whether this woman was raped or not, she waited until after he won the primary to come out with this as a coordinated political move in conjunction with the republicans. I mean if he was really the monster she claims he is, why not go public with this when he first announced his candidacy?If the GOP were behind this, they would have waited until it was too late for him to be replaced. Doing it now makes clear the Republicans had nothing to do with it.
July 8Jul 8 3 hours ago, VanHammersly said:AOC was a rich kid? Her dad was an architect and her mom drove a school bus.Yeah, having a house in the famous working class neighborhood of Yorktown Heights, with her going to a HS that had so much financing because of the tax base that it might as well have been private.The illusion of her being a working class kid who worked her way up and fought hard to go to Boston University only to afterward work as a bartender is just that. An illusion.The problem is they keep finding DSA candidates working as bartenders. It's because bartenders are the closest thing to blue collar that rich kid DSA operatives come into contact with. How do you think they found Platner? He got the oyster farm after he was discovered as a bartender in DC.You lot tried this with Fetterman because he looked like a blue collar guy, even though he was also a rich kid. Wearing a hoodie and shorts doesn't make one working class. It just makes them an average Pennsylvania man in winter.I can be right wing and readily admit that the right wing masses have turned populist and are being, by their noses, led around by rich grifters. Why is it so hard for you to do the same?
July 8Jul 8 6 minutes ago, Bill said:Yeah, having a house in the famous working class neighborhood of Yorktown Heights, with her going to a HS that had so much financing because of the tax base that it might as well have been private.The illusion of her being a working class kid who worked her way up and fought hard to go to Boston University only to afterward work as a bartender is just that. An illusion.The problem is they keep finding DSA candidates working as bartenders. It's because bartenders are the closest thing to blue collar that rich kid DSA operatives come into contact with. How do you think they found Platner? He got the oyster farm after he was discovered as a bartender in DC.You lot tried this with Fetterman because he looked like a blue collar guy, even though he was also a rich kid. Wearing a hoodie and shorts doesn't make one working class. It just makes them an average Pennsylvania man in winter.I can be right wing and readily admit that the right wing masses have turned populist and are being, by their noses, led around by rich grifters. Why is it so hard for you to do the same?Maybe you and I have a different definition of rich. She grew up in a small house in a suburb. Don’t know much about the NY suburbs but plenty of people live in small houses in upscale suburbs of Atlanta that aren’t by any means rich.
July 8Jul 8 8 minutes ago, VanHammersly said:Maybe you and I have a different definition of rich. She grew up in a small house in a suburb. Don’t know much about the NY suburbs but plenty of people live in small houses in upscale suburbs of Atlanta that aren’t by any means rich.Going off the stats for when she grew up, her dad's salary put them in upper middle class to upper class salary. That's rich. A small house in an affluent suburb is still a house in an affluent suburb. The DSA is led by socialists who fit the prototypical mold of socialists since 19th century Vienna. Rich kids who think they know better.
July 8Jul 8 7 hours ago, vikas83 said:If the GOP were behind this, they would have waited until it was too late for him to be replaced. Doing it now makes clear the Republicans had nothing to do with it.You assume competence.
July 8Jul 8 4 hours ago, Bill said:Going off the stats for when she grew up, her dad's salary put them in upper middle class to upper class salary. That's rich. A small house in an affluent suburb is still a house in an affluent suburb.The DSA is led by socialists who fit the prototypical mold of socialists since 19th century Vienna. Rich kids who think they know better.Growing up in financial security and comfort is a long way from rich.It's certainly a different experience than many children of blue collar parents. That said, plenty of blue collar workers make their way to comfortable upper middle class neighborhoods.
July 8Jul 8 7 hours ago, Bill said:Going off the stats for when she grew up, her dad's salary put them in upper middle class to upper class salary. That's rich. A small house in an affluent suburb is still a house in an affluent suburb.The DSA is led by socialists who fit the prototypical mold of socialists since 19th century Vienna. Rich kids who think they know better.I have no idea how you know her dad's salary. It's not public record and he died 20 years ago. But her mom cleaned houses and drove a bus at one point. I've known a lot of rich people and none of them ever cleaned houses and drove a bus.More to the point, I really don't care about AOC or the DSA, I just think the notion that these socialists are all rich elites is silly, considering the background and upbringing of most in Washington.
July 8Jul 8 2 minutes ago, VanHammersly said:I have no idea how you know her dad's salary. It's not public record and he died 20 years ago. But her mom cleaned houses and drove a bus at one point. I've known a lot of rich people and none of them ever cleaned houses and drove a bus.More to the point, I really don't care about AOC or the DSA, I just think the notion that these socialists are all rich elites is silly, considering the background and upbringing of most in Washington.It's almost as if he talks out of his ass 90% of the time......
July 8Jul 8 1 hour ago, VanHammersly said:I have no idea how you know her dad's salary. It's not public record and he died 20 years ago. But her mom cleaned houses and drove a bus at one point. I've known a lot of rich people and none of them ever cleaned houses and drove a bus.More to the point, I really don't care about AOC or the DSA, I just think the notion that these socialists are all rich elites is silly, considering the background and upbringing of most in Washington.I said it in the post you quoted: going off available stats for when she grew up. There's available salary survey results for that time. It's not hard to approximate.
July 8Jul 8 17 minutes ago, Bill said:I said it in the post you quoted: going off available stats for when she grew up. There's available salary survey results for that time. It's not hard to approximate.It's actually completely impossible to approximate. Everyone's financial situation is different. The guy built a business, who knows how much debt he was in, whether he had loans, whether he had overextended. We know he had a terminal disease. I can tell you based on family experience, a cancer diagnosis usually drags on for years and years, and we know that by the time he died, his wife was in debt and their house went into foreclosure. Again, the assumption that AOC grew up rich isn't backed up at all.
July 9Jul 9 Just now, paco said:He’s outGood - whether this is true or not, dude is still a sleazebag.Now, if only all rapists dropped out..
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