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51 minutes ago, eglz1 said:

Trying to decide of Ehlinger can be QB1 next year? A big knock on him was that he was raw, he's now in his 2nd rookie season.

Likely true.  But also seems to suggest they are willing to sacrifice the season in the process.  They're only 1/2 game out of 1st in the AFCS.  

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2 minutes ago, time2rock said:

Likely true.  But also seems to suggest they are willing to sacrifice the season in the process.  They're only 1/2 game out of 1st in the AFCS.  

Who knows who will play if Ryan goes down for any period of time? Then again Irsay doesn't always seem the epitome of rational.

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On 10/16/2022 at 12:14 AM, Procus said:

Guess who's injured?

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/10/15/carson-wentz-has-fractured-finger-on-throwing-hand-status-unclear-for-next-week/

Carson Wentz has fractured finger on throwing hand, status unclear for next week

 

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Commanders: Carson Wentz underwent successful surgery for fractured finger

Posted by Myles Simmons on October 17, 2022, 7:21 PM EDT

The Commanders have confirmed the earlier report of quarterback Carson Wentz‘s surgery for a fractured finger with a statement released on Monday evening.

"QB Carson Wentz suffered a fractured finger on his throwing hand this past Thursday night in Chicago,” the statement reads. "He underwent successful surgery today in Los Angeles by hand specialist Dr. Steven Shin at the Cedars-Sinai Kerlan Job Surgery Center. He will immediately begin rehab and is expected to make a full recovery.”

While the Commanders did not put out a timetable for Wentz’s return, NFL Media reported the quarterback will be out for four-to-six weeks.

With Wentz out, backup Taylor Heinicke is likely in line to start. He took over as the team’s quarterback last season after Ryan Fitzpatrick went down, starting 15 games. He completed 65 percent of his passes for 3,419 yards with 20 touchdowns and 15 interceptions.

Heinicke has not made an appearance so far in 2022. Wentz finished last Thursday’s 12-7 victory 12-of-22 passing for 99 yards.

In six starts for Washington this year, Wentz has completed 62 percent of his passes for 1,489 yards with 10 touchdowns and six interceptions. He’s also been sacked a league-high 23 times.

The Commanders also have rookie quarterback Sam Howell on the 53-man roster. He was selected in the fifth round out of North Carolina.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/10/17/commanders-carson-wentz-underwent-successful-surgery-for-fractured-finger/

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12 hours ago, toolg said:

 

I wonder how many of those tackles were the typical Singleton tackles. I still prefer the linebackers we have right now and White has been outstanding in coverage so far this season. 

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On 10/18/2022 at 5:58 PM, GeorgeM37 said:

Wow.....they REFUSE to put surrounding talent around Lamar.....I love DJax and what he brought to this organization all these years but at 35......

Lamar is on his way out in Baltimore

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16 hours ago, Procus said:

Lamar is on his way out in Baltimore

He should go somewhere they will value his talent and put more talent around him....he is wasting his time there....

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Houston Texans release starting linebacker Kamu Grugier-Hill

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The Houston Texans released starting linebacker Kamu Grugier-Hill, who asked for a release after seeing his playing time reduced in the Texans' 38-20 loss to Las Vegas Raiders in Week 7, sources told ESPN, confirming multiple reports.

Grugier-Hill started six games for the Texans in 2022 and was fourth on the team in tackles (40). But against the Raiders, he played only 32% of the defensive snaps, a season low.

One reason for Grugier-Hill's lowered playing time was because of linebacker Christian Harris, who was a 2022 third-round pick out of Alabama.

Harris was fully healthy after suffering a hamstring injury during camp that landed him on the injured reserve to start the season. Harris played 68% of the snaps against the Raiders.

Grugier-Hill signed a one-year, $3.25 million contract during the 2022 offseason.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/34885623/houston-texans-release-starting-linebacker-kamu-grugier-hill

 

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As expected, Tarron Jackson was signed to our practice squad since he cleared waivers following his release to clear a roster spot for Quinn.  Dicker the Kicker was released from the practice squad in a corresponding move.

https://www.nbcsports.com/philadelphia/eagles/eagles-add-tarron-jackson-practice-squad-cut-cameron-dicker

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Halapoulivaati Vaitai won't be back in 2022, but what about 2023?

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Jeff Risdon 

October 29, 2022 9:45 am ET

Lions head coach Dan Campbell delivered some sobering news on Friday. Campbell essentially ruled out any return from starting right guard Halapoulivaati Vaitai in 2022.

"Big V” has not played since injuring his back late in the preseason. He was placed on injured reserve prior to Week 1. It was a tough blow for the offensive line, the unquestioned projected strength of the team. Vaitai was coming off an impressive 2021 season after sliding inside from right tackle, where he struggled in his first season in Detroit after signing as a free agent from the Eagles prior to the 2020 season.

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"He’s doing well. I would say that would be very slim to none as of right now, but the surgery went well and he’s doing great,” Campbell said of Vaitai. "It’s just – that’s one of those long-term (recoveries). It’ll be probably – if you’re asking me right now, I’d say it would be hard to get him back.”

Campbell was referring to getting his giant right guard back in 2022, but it’s fair to speculate on if Vaitai will be back in Detroit in 2023.

There are a number of factors at play, and some of those are unknown — most prominently Vaitai’s physical condition. Back surgery is no insignificant procedure. But there are a few factors we can evaluate and help ascertain if Vaitai will be given the chance to come back with the Lions in 2023.

The Lions have used a rotating cast of replacements for Vaitai. Some (Evan Brown, Dan Skipper) have been better than others (Logan Stenberg). The long and the short of it is, the line has not collapsed in Vaitai’s absence. The run blocking isn’t as consistent or powerful, but it’s at an acceptable level.

Given the revolving door and lack of continuity, getting capable play from both Brown and Skipper shows that the line can survive without Vaitai. Interestingly, the projected replacement at the beginning of the season hasn’t played yet either. Tommy Kraemer also went on IR just before the season with a back injury of his own.

Kraemer didn’t have surgery, however. In the very next breaths after ruling Vaitai out, Campbell shone an optimistic light on the chance for Kraemer to come back later this season.

"I do. I think – he’s another one that we’re just gauging his progress right now. I could see him being back at some point here over the next few weeks possibly,” Campbell said.

Kraemer showed real promise as an undrafted rookie out of Notre Dame in 2021 and had earned first-team reps in the preseason and training camp when Vaitai or Pro Bowl LG Jonah Jackson were not playing. Kraemer’s playing style is more akin to what Vaitai offers at right guard — a physical, aggressive, power-oriented blocker with more limited range and pass protection polish than Brown or Skipper offer.

The Lions already have viable replacement options in-house. None are quite what a healthy Vaitai offers, but 2022 has proven that it’s not a big step down. Offensive line coach Hank Fraley is one of the best in the business at developing talent and building a line, meaning it’s fair to believe Fraley can coax a higher level out of a healthy Kraemer. Or the continued growth of Skipper, who played well in emergency duty despite being a career tackle-only at 6-foot-10.

Then there are the finances. Vaitai isn’t cheap. Big V has big salaries in the two remaining seasons on his five-year, $45 million contract signed in 2020. After a recent restructuring, Vaitai’s deal will cost the Lions a salary of $9.4 million and a total cap hit of $12.448 million in both 2023 and 2024.

Detroit is on the hook for just under $5.9 million no matter if Vaitai plays for the Lions or not in 2023, the result of the restructures to free up cap room more immediately. Releasing Vaitai would add that $5.9 million figure to dead salary cap in 2023, but it would also free up $6.5 million to spend elsewhere. In 2024 the dead cap figure drops to $2.95 million and the total cap saving shoots up to $9.5 million.

Kraemer will be an exclusive rights free agent in 2023. The Lions can bring him back for the league minimum salary. Evan Brown will be a free agent and he earned $1.2 million in salary 2022. Skipper is earning the league minimum as a vet. Considering Fraley dramatically aided their careers, it’s fair to say at least one would willingly return for 2023 for significantly less than the $6.5 million it would cost to keep Vaitai.

With all that in mind, it seems like long odds for Vaitai to be back in a Lions uniform in 2023.

 

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1 hour ago, VaBeach_Eagle said:

Halapoulivaati Vaitai won't be back in 2022, but what about 2023?

 

That back injury ruined Shawn Andrews. 

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20 minutes ago, brkmsn said:

That back injury ruined Shawn Andrews. 

Yeah, I had high hopes for him when we drafted him. Man did that end badly, when it ended. 

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On 10/29/2022 at 7:12 PM, VaBeach_Eagle said:

Yeah, I had high hopes for him when we drafted him. Man did that end badly, when it ended. 

Exactly...I actually grew to like "the big kid"....and I still have his jersey....

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On 10/29/2022 at 8:12 PM, VaBeach_Eagle said:

Yeah, I had high hopes for him when we drafted him. Man did that end badly, when it ended. 

Shawn "Getting His Michael Phelps on" Andrews was a dominant guard for 4 years. The back, the mental gymnastics, were all a part of his downfall. He played on the same line with Jason Peters (TE) at Arkansas.

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16 hours ago, time2rock said:

People wonder why our passing offense was bad. JJAW, Reagor, and Ward. I mean what quarterback does well with these guys as constant viable options? 

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2 minutes ago, time2rock said:

I remember how everyone said how great that pick was when it happened. I also remember how everyone wanted to anoint this kid as a starter before he earned it. I’m getting those same vibes with Nakobe Dean. People anointing him way too soon and he also dropped due to injury concerns.

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2 hours ago, EazyEaglez said:

I remember how everyone said how great that pick was when it happened. I also remember how everyone wanted to anoint this kid as a starter before he earned it. I’m getting those same vibes with Nakobe Dean. People anointing him way too soon and he also dropped due to injury concerns.

Was never on board with the Jones pick.  I'm pretty much never on board with any PAC player.  Dean I think (hope) will be different.  No need to rush him into action ... those ahead of him are playing very well.  With Edwards and White both scheduled to become free agents after this season and with plenty of other key players also hitting free agency, have to figure we won't be able to re-sign both.  Guessing Edward is retained and they let White walk, so Dean should have a golden opportunity to slide into his spot (but sure hope he earns it and it isn't just given to him).  

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46 minutes ago, time2rock said:

Was never on board with the Jones pick.  I'm pretty much never on board with any PAC player.  Dean I think (hope) will be different.  No need to rush him into action ... those ahead of him are playing very well.  With Edwards and White both scheduled to become free agents after this season (and with plenty of other key players also hitting free agency), have to figure we won't be able to re-sign both.  Guessing Edward is retained and they let White walk, so Dean should have a golden opportunity to slide into his spot (but sure hope he earns it and it isn't just given to him).  

They way these two linebackers are playing right now I don’t want either of them to go. Both are in their prime and killing it right now. White has been excellent against the pass. Edwards has done everything asked and more. You move on from older players like Cox and Graham, but you lock up guys in their 20s playing at a high level. Trust me though there were way more people who loved the Jones pick than hated it. 

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