April 8Apr 8 5 minutes ago, VanHammersly said:It's war in the Middle East that will never be solved. There's no "taking out the trash". There's only creating more enemies. It's none of our business and the vast majority of America wants nothing to do with forever wars that cost trillions and thousands of American lives. A year ago you understood this. Now you've been told to reverse course, but most of us aren't in the weird cult you're in. Again, if it's so important to you then you should move there and take up arms.Yeah, but what if Delaware was attacking Philadelphia? Huh?! Didn't think about it that way smart guy, did you?
April 8Apr 8 Just now, Diehardfan said:You are conflating two things. We don't control Israel and I do not condemn them for what they are doing hitting the terror arm of Iran in place to kill their civilians.I'm conflating two things because one is dependent on the other. If Israel doesn't stop, Iran won't stop and we can't get out the debacle there.
April 8Apr 8 6 minutes ago, VanHammersly said:I'm conflating two things because one is dependent on the other. If Israel doesn't stop, Iran won't stop and we can't get out the debacle there.War is over, Trump won two weeks ago
April 8Apr 8 7 minutes ago, VanHammersly said:I'm conflating two things because one is dependent on the other. If Israel doesn't stop, Iran won't stop and we can't get out the debacle there.Then I guess we have a problem. Again, it's easy to be in our shoes, but if they were close to Philly with the purpose of killing us I doubt you would feel the same.
April 8Apr 8 13 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:You are conflating two things. We don't control Israel and I do not condemn them for what they are doing hitting the terror arm of Iran in place to kill their civilians.We should be able to assert some control over Israel as they are reliant on us. Unfortunately we currently have a moron in the White House who now lets Israel control him and Israel has now dog walked us right into another Middle East cluster F that will undoubtedly end with Iran being in a more powerful position than they were before the war started.
April 8Apr 8 3 minutes ago, DrPhilly said:War is over, Trump won two weeks agoTwo weeks ago? Pfft. He won in the first day don't you remember? Similar to how he ended the Ukraine war in the first day of his administration.
April 8Apr 8 2 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:Then I guess we have a problem. Again, it's easy to be in our shoes, but if they were close to Philly with the purpose of killing us I doubt you would feel the same.This the most insanely stupid argument. You're literally arguing against US interests in favor of Israel because of some hypothetical you've invented.
April 8Apr 8 50 minutes ago, VanHammersly said:This the most insanely stupid argument. You're literally arguing against US interests in favor of Israel because of some hypothetical you've invented.🤣Calling my hypothetical insanely stupid just reveals how confused and inconsistent your thinking really is. It's a basic thought experiment anyone with common sense or an IQ above room temp could understand. Would we would apply the same moral standards to Israel that we would demand for America? Again, if they were launching rockets and attacking Philadelphia from Delaware, every single American would be demanding our military wipe out the threat completely, and nobody would be whining about it. We certainly wouldn't give a flying F what any other country wanted from us either. The reality is Israel has terrorists on their border trying to destroy them, and we cannot expect them to sit back while their people are under attack.
April 8Apr 8 1 minute ago, Diehardfan said:🤣Calling my hypothetical insanely stupid just reveals how confused and inconsistent your thinking really is. It's a basic thought experiment anyone with common sense or an IQ above room temp could understand. It simply asks whether we would apply the same moral standards to Israel that we would demand for America. Again, if they were launching rockets and attacking Philadelphia from Delaware, every single American would be demanding our military wipe out the threat completely, and nobody would be whining about it. We certainly wouldn't give a flying F what any other country wanted from us either. The reality is Israel has terrorists on their border trying to destroy them, and we cannot expect them to sit back while their people are under attack.You literally paraded around this very forum thumping your chest that Trump would not get us into a conflict with Iran and now you want to do thought experiments. You're a joke.
April 8Apr 8 3 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:🤣Calling my hypothetical insanely stupid just reveals how confused and inconsistent your thinking really is. It's a basic thought experiment anyone with common sense or an IQ above room temp could understand. Would we would apply the same moral standards to Israel that we would demand for America? Again, if they were launching rockets and attacking Philadelphia from Delaware, every single American would be demanding our military wipe out the threat completely, and nobody would be whining about it. We certainly wouldn't give a flying F what any other country wanted from us either. The reality is Israel has terrorists on their border trying to destroy them, and we cannot expect them to sit back while their people are under attack. There's no need for a F'ing thought experiment dude. We have the reality playing out in front of us. The fact is Iran/Lebanon aren't on our border. They're on Israel's but, and here's the part you don't seem to understand, we are not Israel's vassal state, no matter how much Trump acts like we are. We don't have to let them screw us out of peace. We pay them billions of dollars and get nothing in return. The least they can do is stop killing women and children for a while so that we can actually get out of yet another Middle East quagmire.
April 8Apr 8 2 minutes ago, Paul852 said:You literally paraded around this very forum thumping your chest that Trump would not get us into a conflict with Iran and now you want to do thought experiments. You're a joke.You all share the same mind which is sad. I'll say it like this...Israel says you all can F right off they don't give a damn what vags like you all think they are going to take care of their borders. If you don't understand why they are doing it or don't care maybe you just hate Jews and/or are an idiot. It's happening and I'm glad they are taking out the trash. If Iran is serious about wanting peace they will take their literal terror arm of their army back home vs leaving it in place to destroy another nation and kill civilians. Which brings up another issue: you all cry so hard about poor civilians being hurt in that school and other places, but when an organization exists to kill them you all are like stop attacking them!!!!!
April 8Apr 8 1 minute ago, VanHammersly said: There's no need for a F'ing thought experiment dude. We have the reality playing out in front of us. The fact is Iran/Lebanon aren't on our border. They're on Israel's but, and here's the part you don't seem to understand, we are not Israel's vassal state, no matter how much Trump acts like we are. We don't have to let them screw us out of peace. We pay them billions of dollars and get nothing in return. The least they can do is stop killing women and children for a while so that we can actually get out of yet another Middle East quagmire.I was being nice but I'll say it like this. It was an example dumbed down so an idiot like you could understand it. The fact you said stop killing civilians targeting a group that exists just to kill women and children and has been doing so for decades says it all.
April 8Apr 8 31 minutes ago, NOTW said:It's like watching a clown car jump out of the trunk of another clown car.
April 8Apr 8 1 minute ago, Diehardfan said:I was being nice but I'll say it like this. It was an example dumbed down so an idiot like you could understand it. The fact you said stop killing civilians targeting a group that exists just to kill women and children and has been doing so for decades says it all.They both kill women and children you F'ing idiot. I don't hold Israeli women and children in any higher regard than I hold Lebanese or Iranian. And right now Israel is killing a lot of them.
April 8Apr 8 1 minute ago, VanHammersly said:They both kill women and children you F'ing idiot. I don't hold Israeli women and children in any higher regard than I hold Lebanese or Iranian. And right now Israel is killing a lot of them.One supports/gives a home to terrorist the other is taking out the trash. I don't hold Lebanese in any higher regard than we did Japanese nor do I blame Israel for doing what they have it. Finish the job.
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