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41 minutes ago, paco said:

Why don’t they just tell the insurance companies to open it back up?

What are you talking about? Hegseth was very clear that the strait is "open for transit" with the only factor causing issue is "Iran shooting at shipping". Get it right next time.

12 minutes ago, DrPhilly said:

What are you talking about? Hegseth was very clearly that the strait is "open for transit" with the only factor causing issue is "Iran shooting at shipping". Get it right next time.

I was told very clearly that the strait is open but it's pretty much the insurance companies keeping ships from going through.

1 minute ago, paco said:

I was told very clearly that the strait is open but it's pretty much the insurance companies keeping ships from going through.

Right, it isn't shut so no need to "open it back up". Just run those ships thru there. Also, Trump has agreed to provide the insurance via the US International DFC. Get with the program.

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5 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

Hear me out…… Want to make America great again?

Send in the other 77% first.

Rumors of ground troops just erased any meager rally the markets had. Back down to 45. I miss the other old senile guy and so does my portfolio.

36 minutes ago, Gannan said:

Rumors of ground troops just erased any meager rally the markets had. Back down to 45. I miss the other old senile guy and so does my portfolio.

Come on now, you've got to at least be rocking a 2-3% return since Trump took office.

8 minutes ago, Paul852 said:

Come on now, you've got to at least be rocking a 2-3% return since Trump took office.

That was January and February. I’m deep in the red eating away at gains from last year now. This hasn’t happened since the last time we elected a retarded Republican president

10 minutes ago, Paul852 said:

Come on now, you've got to at least be rocking a 2-3% return since Trump took office.

So is my savings account only with far less volatility

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32 minutes ago, Gannan said:

That was January and February. I’m deep in the red eating away at gains from last year now. This hasn’t happened since the last time we elected a retarded Republican president

Yeah but when you realize it’ll make a random lib on the internet who you’ll never meet upset, doesn’t it make it all worth it? You can’t put a price on that.

2 hours ago, barho said:

So is my savings account only with far less volatility

Oh, I'm aware. HYSAs are around 3.5% right now.

Do you guys see any potential off ramp that doesnt leave lasting negative impacts on us?

Its looking to me like we may actually have to send in troops now to actually try to finish the job and achieve a regime change.

Yes thats a horrible thing to have to accept. But, is there another way?

Im not sure we can just say sorry, and actually pay reparations which will support their nuclear program, and terrorism, and still suffer fallout in the oil industry.

43 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Do you guys see any potential off ramp that doesnt leave lasting negative impacts on us?

No.

That's not me being a smart a** either. It's just beyond that at this point. I don't even see how oil could come down in the next 2-3 years. This was stupid from the start.

1 minute ago, Paul852 said:

No.

That's not me being a smart a** either. It's just beyond that at this point. I don't even see how oil could come down in the next 2-3 years. This was stupid from the start.

Im afraid that we are all in a position now where you basically have to support "boots on the ground" even if thats something youd never ever want to happen. I think we have backed ourselves in to that corner and we are going to need to fight out of it.

21 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Im afraid that we are all in a position now where you basically have to support "boots on the ground" even if thats something youd never ever want to happen. I think we have backed ourselves in to that corner and we are going to need to fight out of it.

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We're gonna bomb them into submission until they learn to love American-style democracy.

2 hours ago, HazletonEagle said:

Do you guys see any potential off ramp that doesnt leave lasting negative impacts on us?

Its looking to me like we may actually have to send in troops now to actually try to finish the job and achieve a regime change.

Yes thats a horrible thing to have to accept. But, is there another way?

Im not sure we can just say sorry, and actually pay reparations which will support their nuclear program, and terrorism, and still suffer fallout in the oil industry.

Honestly, if the administration had just made this its reason in the beginning we’d be in a much better place overall. This "excursion” was so poorly planned and discussed from the beginning. If you truly feel that this regime has been awful for 47 years and it needs to go, then make the case to the people and we’ll get it done.

8 hours ago, HazletonEagle said:

Im afraid that we are all in a position now where you basically have to support "boots on the ground" even if thats something youd never ever want to happen. I think we have backed ourselves in to that corner and we are going to need to fight out of it.

No. Boots on the ground only makes this crappy situation even worse. I don’t want to see any more American soldiers die because of our moron President.

8 hours ago, HazletonEagle said:

Im afraid that we are all in a position now where you basically have to support "boots on the ground" even if thats something youd never ever want to happen. I think we have Trump has backed ourselves us in to that corner and we are going to need to fight out of it.

Sure doesn't seem like anyone has any other answer at this point. The only winner here is Russia.

btw - I fixed your post.

17 minutes ago, Phillyterp85 said:

No. Boots on the ground only makes this crappy situation even worse. I don’t want to see any more American soldiers die because of our moron President.

I don't think there is any alternative that doesn't make it "even worse". What do you suggest?

1 hour ago, DrPhilly said:

Sure doesn't seem like anyone has any other answer at this point. The only winner here is Russia.

btw - I fixed your post.

It’s quite obvious that the Russians will do just about anything to keep Dummy Don in office, just like they want the other traitor to the western world, Victor Orban, to remain in power. Notice when Trump constantly throws all allies, especially from Europe, under the bus? He is playing to the audience of one: his puppet master Vlad Putin.

All of this craziness is only benefiting the true enemies of the US and the free world. Any logical person sees this, except the one with the red MAGA hat…🤦🏻‍♂️

1 hour ago, DrPhilly said:

I don't think there is any alternative that doesn't make it "even worse". What do you suggest?

Pulling out now would be fine with me. Anything but a ground invasion.

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