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5 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

Hear me out…… Want to make America great again?

Send in the other 77% first.

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Rumors of ground troops just erased any meager rally the markets had. Back down to 45. I miss the other old senile guy and so does my portfolio.

36 minutes ago, Gannan said:

Rumors of ground troops just erased any meager rally the markets had. Back down to 45. I miss the other old senile guy and so does my portfolio.

Come on now, you've got to at least be rocking a 2-3% return since Trump took office.

8 minutes ago, Paul852 said:

Come on now, you've got to at least be rocking a 2-3% return since Trump took office.

That was January and February. I’m deep in the red eating away at gains from last year now. This hasn’t happened since the last time we elected a retarded Republican president

10 minutes ago, Paul852 said:

Come on now, you've got to at least be rocking a 2-3% return since Trump took office.

So is my savings account only with far less volatility

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32 minutes ago, Gannan said:

That was January and February. I’m deep in the red eating away at gains from last year now. This hasn’t happened since the last time we elected a retarded Republican president

Yeah but when you realize it’ll make a random lib on the internet who you’ll never meet upset, doesn’t it make it all worth it? You can’t put a price on that.

2 hours ago, barho said:

So is my savings account only with far less volatility

Oh, I'm aware. HYSAs are around 3.5% right now.

Do you guys see any potential off ramp that doesnt leave lasting negative impacts on us?

Its looking to me like we may actually have to send in troops now to actually try to finish the job and achieve a regime change.

Yes thats a horrible thing to have to accept. But, is there another way?

Im not sure we can just say sorry, and actually pay reparations which will support their nuclear program, and terrorism, and still suffer fallout in the oil industry.

43 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Do you guys see any potential off ramp that doesnt leave lasting negative impacts on us?

No.

That's not me being a smart a** either. It's just beyond that at this point. I don't even see how oil could come down in the next 2-3 years. This was stupid from the start.

1 minute ago, Paul852 said:

No.

That's not me being a smart a** either. It's just beyond that at this point. I don't even see how oil could come down in the next 2-3 years. This was stupid from the start.

Im afraid that we are all in a position now where you basically have to support "boots on the ground" even if thats something youd never ever want to happen. I think we have backed ourselves in to that corner and we are going to need to fight out of it.

21 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Im afraid that we are all in a position now where you basically have to support "boots on the ground" even if thats something youd never ever want to happen. I think we have backed ourselves in to that corner and we are going to need to fight out of it.

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We're gonna bomb them into submission until they learn to love American-style democracy.

2 hours ago, HazletonEagle said:

Do you guys see any potential off ramp that doesnt leave lasting negative impacts on us?

Its looking to me like we may actually have to send in troops now to actually try to finish the job and achieve a regime change.

Yes thats a horrible thing to have to accept. But, is there another way?

Im not sure we can just say sorry, and actually pay reparations which will support their nuclear program, and terrorism, and still suffer fallout in the oil industry.

Honestly, if the administration had just made this its reason in the beginning we’d be in a much better place overall. This "excursion” was so poorly planned and discussed from the beginning. If you truly feel that this regime has been awful for 47 years and it needs to go, then make the case to the people and we’ll get it done.

8 hours ago, HazletonEagle said:

Im afraid that we are all in a position now where you basically have to support "boots on the ground" even if thats something youd never ever want to happen. I think we have backed ourselves in to that corner and we are going to need to fight out of it.

No. Boots on the ground only makes this crappy situation even worse. I don’t want to see any more American soldiers die because of our moron President.

8 hours ago, HazletonEagle said:

Im afraid that we are all in a position now where you basically have to support "boots on the ground" even if thats something youd never ever want to happen. I think we have Trump has backed ourselves us in to that corner and we are going to need to fight out of it.

Sure doesn't seem like anyone has any other answer at this point. The only winner here is Russia.

btw - I fixed your post.

17 minutes ago, Phillyterp85 said:

No. Boots on the ground only makes this crappy situation even worse. I don’t want to see any more American soldiers die because of our moron President.

I don't think there is any alternative that doesn't make it "even worse". What do you suggest?

1 hour ago, DrPhilly said:

Sure doesn't seem like anyone has any other answer at this point. The only winner here is Russia.

btw - I fixed your post.

It’s quite obvious that the Russians will do just about anything to keep Dummy Don in office, just like they want the other traitor to the western world, Victor Orban, to remain in power. Notice when Trump constantly throws all allies, especially from Europe, under the bus? He is playing to the audience of one: his puppet master Vlad Putin.

All of this craziness is only benefiting the true enemies of the US and the free world. Any logical person sees this, except the one with the red MAGA hat…🤦🏻‍♂️

1 hour ago, DrPhilly said:

I don't think there is any alternative that doesn't make it "even worse". What do you suggest?

Pulling out now would be fine with me. Anything but a ground invasion.

1 minute ago, Phillyterp85 said:

Pulling out now would be fine with me. Anything but a ground invasion.

They are in the process of sending more troops. The "negotiations” with Iran are a cop out IMO. This 10 day pause will give more time to move troops in. If Iran doesn’t completely lay down beforehand, boots will be on the ground IMO.

8 minutes ago, Phillyterp85 said:

Pulling out now would be fine with me. Anything but a ground invasion.

How do you get the Strait back open and kept open and without ships having to pay millions to Iran to pass? There is no reasonable strategic solution in sight at this stage.

@Diehardfan Remember when you laughed at me for saying Iran would close the Strait? Pepperidge Farm remembers. 

28 minutes ago, Frankfurteagle89 said:

They are in the process of sending more troops. The "negotiations” with Iran are a cop out IMO. This 10 day pause will give more time to move troops in. If Iran doesn’t completely lay down beforehand, boots will be on the ground IMO.

Yes, this is very predictably what is happening. He's buying time, getting some money rolling in the markets while he positions for the ground invasion. It's like a 5D chess, if instead of capturing the king the goal was incompetence and corruption.

11 hours ago, HazletonEagle said:

But, is there another way?

The other way would've been the severely retarded portion of the population, such as yourself, to have stayed home on election day instead of collectively voting for the king of retards to be the leader of the free world.

5 minutes ago, dawkins4prez said:

Yes, this is very predictably what is happening. He's buying time, getting some money rolling in the markets while he positions for the ground invasion. It's like a 5D chess, if instead of capturing the king the goal was incompetence and corruption.

My view as well. I mean what is Iran supposed to think after they were attacked during negotiations and now the build up of ground forces, with new negotiations on the horizon?

"Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me”… they will be ready this time with everything they have left.

An off ramp is not an easy task with the way this "excursion” has been handled. Trump is out of his league here and let’s hope his stupidity will not be the cause of a high casualty rate for our troops.

38 minutes ago, DrPhilly said:

How do you get the Strait back open and kept open and without ships having to pay millions to Iran to pass? There is no reasonable strategic solution in sight at this stage.

Pay millions of dollars to the insurance companies

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