Just so you can set your calendars to the right date to say we lost

3 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

Just so you can set your calendars to the right date to say we lost

and then onto the next conquest?

6 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

Just so you can set your calendars to the right date to say we lost

2 hours ago, barho said:

I never did. I want this country to be great. I just know we elected a ratard for our President and he is doing nothing but damage. Feel free to think otherwise (on both points) though.

Me too, but the country is lost. Sure Trump will be dead and out of office, but idiots like the one you are responding to will find another fascist **** to put in office.

10 minutes ago, Gannan said:

Me too, but the country is lost. Sure Trump will be dead and out of office, but idiots like the one you are responding to will find another fascist **** to bring the end of days.

FYP. 😁

Really though, Dems retake house and senate this election cycle and oust the orange god.

1 hour ago, Diehardfan said:

Just so you can set your calendars to the right date to say we lost

"Everyone who doesnt support Trump hates America!"...tgis idiot is completely un-American and doesnt even realize it lmao

Republicans in the House are total disgrace to America.

Russians are having a filed day...

"Trump has escaped from the trap of his own making. But only the feverish mind of the American himself can consider this a triumphant victory," one of the newspapers reported. The Russian Editor for the BBC also explained how Russian media believe there is "a mass of political bonuses for Iran". Referring to the 10-point ceasefire, Moscow-based daily newspaper Moskovsky Komsomolets wrote: "The only thing missing from the list is the demand that the arrogant American leader himself personally come to Tehran, crawl 10km, periodically kissing the bombed asphalt, and then publicly repent."

Bu bu bu bu bu bu bu bu bu but HUNTERS LAPTOP!!!!!!

Trump is a warmonger.

Based on reported data regarding military strikes (including air strikes and drone strikes) through early 2026, Donald Trump has authorized military action in 10 different countries across his two terms, making him the president to strike the highest number of countries in the 21st century.

PolitiFact +1

Key Findings (as of March/April 2026):

• Donald Trump: Authorized strikes in 10 countries (Afghanistan, Iraq, Yemen, Pakistan, Somalia, Libya, Syria, Venezuela, Nigeria, and Iran) combined over his first and second terms.

Let's not forget, that Columbia, Cuba and Mexico are next on the hit list.

Yo I LOVE they got Eminem on this track.

Something I just thought of: does this whole thing torpedo any chances for a Shapiro presidential campaign? Yes I know he was a kid, and he wasn't even involved in combat. But associations with the IDF has got to be pretty politically toxic right now if imagine. Kind of a bummer.

9 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

Something I just thought of: does this whole thing torpedo any chances for a Shapiro presidential campaign? Yes I know he was a kid, and he wasn't even involved in combat. But associations with the IDF has got to be pretty politically toxic right now if imagine. Kind of a bummer.

That would depend on how many moderates show up to the primaries and what he has to say about it now.

15 hours ago, Bill said:

I was wondering if Trump would at least save the petrodollar in this fiasco. But this is worse. This is way worse.

20 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

Something I just thought of: does this whole thing torpedo any chances for a Shapiro presidential campaign? Yes I know he was a kid, and he wasn't even involved in combat. But associations with the IDF has got to be pretty politically toxic right now if imagine. Kind of a bummer.

Yes it does. Pro Israel doesn't have a chance in Hell in the Dem primary. Wouldn't have a chance in the Republican one either but it will be Trump again.

44 minutes ago, Bill said:

That would depend on how many moderates show up to the primaries and what he has to say about it now.

I think before his whole "I was 20 and it was not combat related volunteering" was enough for people not to care. Now I feel like he'd have to outright condemn the IDF to get enough momentum in the primaries, which also has consequences. Guess we'll find out.

Just now, DEagle7 said:

I think before his whole "I was 20 and it was not combat related volunteering" was enough for people not to care. Now I feel like he'd have to outright condemn the IDF to get enough momentum in the primaries, which also has consequences. Guess we'll find out.

The tough thing with Dem politicians is that there were really no single issue voters, and everyone wanted all of their viewpoints met and there was no room for compromise, whereas with the Repubs, there were a ton of single issue voters, and so long as what they wanted was in the platform, they couldn't care less about other stuff. NatSec people didn't care what happened with taxes, pro business people didn't care about what happened with NatSec, etc. On the flip side, pro-choice voters absolutely cared about gay marriage, civil rights, education spending, etc.

I don't know how much of the Dems being the new establishment is going to change that calculus, if any.

There's two ways to win an election: get your base to the polls en masse was the most effective, and secondary to that, if neither side could do so, was to win the middle. 2008 and 2020 were getting the bases to the polls, everything else was winning the middle. And the middle is a single issue voter that cares only for the economy. Everything else is a distant second.

1 hour ago, DEagle7 said:

Something I just thought of: does this whole thing torpedo any chances for a Shapiro presidential campaign? Yes I know he was a kid, and he wasn't even involved in combat. But associations with the IDF has got to be pretty politically toxic right now if imagine. Kind of a bummer.

He never had a chance. The progressives were never going to nominate a Jewish man for President. Hell, they likely don't want a white man at all, but zero chance a Jewish man who was once part of the IDF.

The extremes of both parties are rife with anti-Semitism. Blaming Shapiro, or any Jewish person, for Netanyahu's crimes is ridiculous, but that's what they will do.

4 minutes ago, Bill said:

The tough thing with Dem politicians is that there were really no single issue voters, and everyone wanted all of their viewpoints met and there was no room for compromise, whereas with the Repubs, there were a ton of single issue voters, and so long as what they wanted was in the platform, they couldn't care less about other stuff. NatSec people didn't care what happened with taxes, pro business people didn't care about what happened with NatSec, etc. On the flip side, pro-choice voters absolutely cared about gay marriage, civil rights, education spending, etc.

I don't know how much of the Dems being the new establishment is going to change that calculus, if any.

There's two ways to win an election: get your base to the polls en masse was the most effective, and secondary to that, if neither side could do so, was to win the middle. 2008 and 2020 were getting the bases to the polls, everything else was winning the middle. And the middle is a single issue voter that cares only for the economy. Everything else is a distant second.

Eh...I wouldn't say 2008 was about base motivation. Obama won the middle easily, and plenty of registered Republicans voted for him. After the financial meltdown, McCain was drawing dead, and add on Obama is a fantastic politician and was a historical candidate.

20 hours ago, Diehardfan said:

Just so you can set your calendars to the right date to say we lost

Swampy

1 hour ago, DEagle7 said:

Something I just thought of: does this whole thing torpedo any chances for a Shapiro presidential campaign? Yes I know he was a kid, and he wasn't even involved in combat. But associations with the IDF has got to be pretty politically toxic right now if imagine. Kind of a bummer.

When he was on the pod save america podcast he said "Criticizing the Israeli government does not make one anti-semetic". That puts him ahead of half the democratic party and most of the mainstream media, but you're probably right.

30 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

He never had a chance. The progressives were never going to nominate a Jewish man for President. Hell, they likely don't want a white man at all, but zero chance a Jewish man who was once part of the IDF.

The extremes of both parties are rife with anti-Semitism. Blaming Shapiro, or any Jewish person, for Netanyahu's crimes is ridiculous, but that's what they will do.

I don't think its so much blaming him or anyone (other than Trump), its the fear that Israel will continue to dictate our foreign policy. Biden was far too weak on Israel for example, but he was a hell of a lot better than what we have now.