3 minutes ago, DBW said:

So JD gets assigned the task to negotiate the deal with the help of Pakistan. He fails miserably. Returns to US with no deal. Blames Iran.

Can they make the cliffhanger of this season of The Apprentice any more pathetic?

Im quite alright with Vance taking a black eye for this one. But in reality just like negotiations with Russia, its likely the US never meant for a deal to be made anyway. Same 2 week timeline. Same result- no deal.

Now they have an excuse to keep bombing. This was all for show. Just like some of the zelensky meetings and Putin meetings were.

1 hour ago, DBW said:

The real question is why would an 8 time war ender, Nobel peace prize winning, master of negotiation president send in a summer intern to get probably the most consequential deal of either of his terms done? The answer is, trump has no plan. Only concepts. For anything. And he’s in way over his head and was hopeful that couch Fer could pull out a miracle. Now that they’ve both proven they’re utter failures in literally everything they touch, what next?

Feeling, Trump has feeling

1 hour ago, HazletonEagle said:

Im quite alright with Vance taking a black eye for this one. But in reality just like negotiations with Russia, its likely the US never meant for a deal to be made anyway. Same 2 week timeline. Same result- no deal.

Now they have an excuse to keep bombing. This was all for show. Just like some of the zelensky meetings and Putin meetings were.

Thats quite a turnaround for you on the Ukraine situation. Two more weeks it is.

On 4/9/2026 at 10:14 AM, DrPhilly said:

Reports are that Hegseth was the only one in the room with a positive take on listening to Bibi and joining Israel in an attack. Trump will attempt to use Hegseth or Vance or both as a scapegoat down the line.

Vance now firmly in place behind Hegseth who has the pole position.

7 hours ago, HazletonEagle said:

Im quite alright with Vance taking a black eye for this one. But in reality just like negotiations with Russia, its likely the US never meant for a deal to be made anyway. Same 2 week timeline. Same result- no deal.

Now they have an excuse to keep bombing. This was all for show. Just like some of the zelensky meetings and Putin meetings were.

Also, there was a UFC fight to attend, so the master deal maker had to sit this one out. Priorities, little fella, priorities

"I think its already been regime change!"....I just heard him say hahahahaha....he just says anything lmao

6 hours ago, DrPhilly said:

Thats quite a turnaround for you on the Ukraine situation. Two more weeks it is.

Wrong...

34 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Wrong...

The "Art of the Deal" guy sent this moron though hahahahahahaha

19 minutes ago, Boogyman said:

The "Art of the Deal" guy sent this moron though hahahahahahaha

Well Iran thinks we’re the great satan, so……

8 hours ago, HazletonEagle said:

Im quite alright with Vance taking a black eye for this one. But in reality just like negotiations with Russia, its likely the US never meant for a deal to be made anyway. Same 2 week timeline. Same result- no deal.

Now they have an excuse to keep bombing. This was all for show. Just like some of the zelensky meetings and Putin meetings were.

Oh that's right, I forgot you had such a good read of how that was gonna turn out. Let's go back and look at the tape...

On 8/19/2025 at 10:03 AM, HazletonEagle said:

He has told Macron he thinks Putin wants to do a deal with him. He has told Zelensky, I think youll be surprised, I think Putin wants to do something.

I think there is exceptionally little wiggle room for Putin to back away right now without some sort of face saving consequence.

Trump may not be the smartest. And it may not be for the best intentions. But as youll all admit, if theres one thing he is interested in, its his image. He will not take kindly to this kind of embarrassment.

On 8/19/2025 at 9:37 AM, HazletonEagle said:

Have to think though that if they stall all this progress that Trump thought he made with yesterdays meeting, he will throw a tantrum and increase sanctions.

Now, hes caught on camera saying "I think Putin wants to do a deal for me"

He will be embarrassed when it becomes clear again that Putin is playing him. Especially after gathering all of those european leaders in the white house, all for nothing. Thatll be a massive embarrassment directly caused by Putin.

On 8/19/2025 at 9:44 PM, HazletonEagle said:

and now the white house says Putin has agreed to meet with Zalensky...

On 8/18/2025 at 11:06 PM, HazletonEagle said:

Might I say that based on todays discussions, and the mood in that room, it absolutely does not look like Trump was steamrolled by Putin. Which was never implied anyway.

Clearly if Trump pitched those people a very pro Russia deal, they wouldnt all be speaking so positively of the progress and ready to set up the trilateral meeting.

You guys will have to accept some Trump success, and defeat on the "steamrolled" misunderstanding. Context is so complex for some of you.

Yep, you totally nailed that one, chief! Please don't be shy with any more of your foreign policy prognostications when it involves the retarded man child you voted for. If definitely doesn't make you look like a retarded man child yourself.

1 hour ago, HazletonEagle said:

Wrong...

Yeah?

On 8/19/2025 at 9:50 AM, HazletonEagle said:

Yeah.

Regardless, this pattern has been followed before when he got played and finally said Putin is pissing him off and he slapped more sanctions on.

It may quickly be headed in that direction again if Russia is going to slow the progress that has been made.

That meeting yesterday was too huge an event to have russia backpedal from.

40 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Oh that's right, I forgot you had such a good read of how that was gonna turn out. Let's go back and look at the tape...

Yep, you totally nailed that one, chief! Please don't be shy with any more of your foreign policy prognostications when it involves the retarded man child you voted for. If definitely doesn't make you look like a retarded man child yourself.

37 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Yeah?

I see you are back to your favorite hobby of searching for old quotes without context and incorrectly applying them to fit your narrative, which makes you wrong but gets you lots of likes from your weird e-friends.

I said over and over again ,early in the Russia thread that I was just going to wait and see.

I pointed out the dog and pony show even before any of you at that embarrassing meeting where they kicked zelensky out. I knew from the Beginning Trump was sided with Russia and I never supported that at all.

At certain points I hoped Putin embarrassed him enough to make him do something about it. I do have even less faith in this situation that the US wanted to negotiate. They can't back out of Iran and make it appear that theyve won. They are going to be boots on the ground at this point. Its the US's only way to gain victory. I said this week's ago.

2 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

I see you are back to your favorite hobby of searching for old quotes without context and incorrectly applying them to fit your narrative, which makes you wrong but gets you lots of likes from your weird e-friends.

I said over and over again ,early in the Russia thread that I was just going to wait and see.

I pointed out the dog and pony show even before any of you at that embarrassing meeting where they kicked zelensky out. I knew from the Beginning Trump was sided with Russia and I never supported that at all.

At certain points I hoped Putin embarrassed him enough to make him do something about it. I do have even less faith in this situation that the US wanted to negotiate. They can't back out of Iran and make it appear that theyve won. They are going to be boots on the ground at this point. Its the US's only way to gain victory. I said this week's ago.

29 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

I see you are back to your favorite hobby of searching for old quotes without context and incorrectly applying them to fit your narrative, which makes you wrong but gets you lots of likes from your weird e-friends.

I said over and over again ,early in the Russia thread that I was just going to wait and see.

I pointed out the dog and pony show even before any of you at that embarrassing meeting where they kicked zelensky out. I knew from the Beginning Trump was sided with Russia and I never supported that at all.

At certain points I hoped Putin embarrassed him enough to make him do something about it. I do have even less faith in this situation that the US wanted to negotiate. They can't back out of Iran and make it appear that theyve won. They are going to be boots on the ground at this point. Its the US's only way to gain victory. I said this week's ago.

@HazletonEagle , "The Art of the L" hahahahaha.

3 hours ago, HazletonEagle said:

Wrong...

Oh yeah? You always said you weren't going to like it if things weren't moving forward toward peace in the Ukraine within a short period of time. Are you ok or not with continued bombing in Iran?

15 minutes ago, DrPhilly said:

Oh yeah? You always said you weren't going to like it if things weren't moving forward toward peace in the Ukraine within a short period of time. Are you ok or not with continued bombing in Iran?

Id rather it stop but don't think we can stop now. Already discussed this week's ago...

5 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Id rather it stop but don't think we can stop now. Already discussed this week's ago...

3 hours ago, Blazehound said:

Probably just needs to pay trump or fly a Russian flag to get through

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