Just now, Diehardfan said:

That doesn’t mean I want boots on the ground

to wipe them out so do it right. Finish it.

These two things are completely at odds. There's no way to "wipe them out" or "finish it" without boots on the ground. So you either want a half measure that leaves the same faction in charge or you want boots on the ground.

4 minutes ago, VanHammersly said:

These two things are completely at odds. There's no way to "wipe them out" or "finish it" without boots on the ground. So you either want a half measure that leaves the same faction in charge or you want boots on the ground.

Exactly. Can’t have your cake and eat it too.

8 minutes ago, VanHammersly said:

These two things are completely at odds. There's no way to "wipe them out" or "finish it" without boots on the ground. So you either want a half measure that leaves the same faction in charge or you want boots on the ground.

Said 45 min after Israel killed more leadership.

4 minutes ago, DrPhilly said:

Exactly. Can’t have your cake and eat it too.

Sure you can. It's literally happening. Also, no boots on the ground is different than our boots on the ground. Bottom line is Inwant it done right either way. Don't leave this and kick the can. Finish them off

Just now, Diehardfan said:

Said 45 min after Israel killed more leadership.

They can keep killing people (and they will, including civilians) but that's not going to get you what you want. Bombing a country without a force on the ground has never in history toppled a regime and given them a democratic society. It's not happening, no matter how many Eric Daugherty tweets you post

2 minutes ago, VanHammersly said:

They can keep killing people (and they will, including civilians) but that's not going to get you what you want. Bombing a country without a force on the ground has never in history toppled a regime and given them a democratic society. It's not happening, no matter how many Eric Daugherty tweets you post

Right, and like I said that doesn't have to mean our troops on the ground but if that's what it takes then do it. It won't be like Iraq where we are fighting a proxy war with the country next door. I prefer other countries take the lead but I don't support kicking the can at this point vs doing the job right. Take them out and end this. We will see what happens.

Like I said yesterday take out the

IRGC and the Basij/Quds but don't fully dismantle the Artesh.

1 minute ago, Diehardfan said:

It won't be like Iraq

Famous last words

"We can bomb them into democracy" may be the stupidest thing I've ever read here. Wow, just wow.

1 hour ago, jsdarkstar said:

Well I think of Traditional Allies such as Canada, England, France, and Germany. I guess I forgot, They are not allied with Trump. So it's us alone on the ground. Good luck with that.

Please don’t forget the Danes!! One of our closest allies when it come to war.

Oh wait, didn’t we just want to invade Greenland and take that place away from those sleazy Danes?!?!🤔🤭

2 minutes ago, VanHammersly said:

Famous last words

It's looking more like Libya, then Iraq.

38 minutes ago, mr_hunt said:

Awesome! The "Crusades” are back and the US can finally claim to have been a country during them…🥴

6 minutes ago, VanHammersly said:

Famous last words

Like I said you leave the Artesh vs Iraq.

5 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

Sure you can. It's literally happening.

No it isn’t. We shall see about the latest claims. I just checked the news in Israel and they themselves say "no injuries or deaths reported yet”. Even if they managed it still doesn’t equate to regime change. This is a country of 90M people. Killing 100 leaders doesn’t equate to regime change given the sort of structure they have there.

3 minutes ago, jsdarkstar said:

It's looking more like Libya, then Iraq.

In Libya, rebel forces held half the country by the time foreign bombs started dropping. There's no interior force at the moment that I'm aware of.

1 minute ago, mr_hunt said:

You have to at least admire the consistency of this administration for absolutely not giving a F about anyone.

Just now, VanHammersly said:

In Libya, rebel forces held half the country by the time foreign bombs started dropping. There's no interior force at the moment that I'm aware of.

Yes, not like Libya

Just now, Gannan said:

You have to at least admire the consistency of this administration for absolutely not giving a F about anyone.

yeah, but did you see those drapes? they’re exquisite.

Good thing we are so beloved in the Middle East. This should be smooth sailing, especially when it’s described as a "Holy War”. At least now we know that killing women and children is fine since it’s being done in the name of god.👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

If God, or maybe Isreal, demand us put boots on the ground who are we to argue?

5 minutes ago, VanHammersly said:

In Libya, rebel forces held half the country by the time foreign bombs started dropping. There's no interior force at the moment that I'm aware of.

Well the IRGC is still there as far as I know. They are the ones firing the missiles at us.

1 minute ago, jsdarkstar said:

Well the IRGC is still there as far as I know. They are the ones firing the missiles at us.

The IRGC is the regime

Just now, Boogyman said:

If God, or maybe Isreal, demand us put boots on the ground who are we to argue?

Whose God? The one that calls for the extermination of Democrats? Christian Nationalists.

Just now, jsdarkstar said:

Well the IRGC is still there as far as I know. They are the ones firing the missiles at us.

Right. I mean there's no armed rebellion inside Iran as far as I know. In Libya they had been in full scale civil war for some time and had already taken a pretty massive chunk of the country.