March 3Mar 3 Just now, Phillyterp85 said:Diehardfan: "I want to dismantle the IRGC and I want the job done right and not to half ass it, but I'm also not calling for boots on the ground guys!"too funny.................I said it doesn't have to be our troops. Support uprisings or support an Arab coalition or support someone inside their government taking over. But don't deflect. What do you want to see happen now that we are in it? Like it or not you prefer to leave it again or do it right?
March 3Mar 3 6 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:83 BombingKhobar towersIraq warWhy attack now then? Those were decades agoIt's ok to admit you didn't want this war and maga is telling its followers to accept it after campaigning on no more wars
March 3Mar 3 7 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:83 BombingKhobar towersIraq warMay as well lump in the diplomats in '79 if you're going to count it like that
March 3Mar 3 9 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:I said it doesn't have to be our troops. You literally said whatever it takes.
March 3Mar 3 Let's not forget the Greco-Persian Wars. Probably plenty of American ancestors were killed.
March 3Mar 3 Well, this isn't surprising. There's no plan, but of course there isn't. Trump simply thinks about the next news cycle; there's no long term strategic thinking of any kind. It's why we removed Maduro but left his government in charge. We killed the Ayatollah, but the zealots will remain in charge and we'll move on to bombing Cuba next month.
March 3Mar 3 2 minutes ago, vikas83 said:There's no plan, but of course there isn't.Course not. Did you ever listen to Scaramucci explain it? Every day starts with a blank sheet and Trump making some calls and then deciding what he is going to do that day. Maybe he's evolved since Scaramucci was working for him but I doubt it.
March 3Mar 3 17 minutes ago, VanHammersly said:Let's not forget the Greco-Persian Wars. Probably plenty of American ancestors were killed.F. We are now a page away from a @Dave Moss lecture on the Ottoman Empire(Yes, I know Iran was never part of it. Shut up nerds)
March 3Mar 3 25 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:Why attack now then? Those were decades agoIt's ok to admit you didn't want this war and maga is telling its followers to accept it after campaigning on no more warsI've said I didn't prefer this over peaceful solutions. There also comes a time when that isn't possible. If they did say we have enough for 11 bombs in negotiations and acted the way they were depicted then it changes things. Wanting/campaigning on no more wars doesn't mean no more balls. If he felt it was necessary after trying other options and hitting them once and giving them another opportunity to change course then I support him.
March 3Mar 3 5 minutes ago, paco said:F. We are now a page away from a @Dave Moss lecture on the Ottoman EmpireLooks like you just guaranteed it
March 3Mar 3 32 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:I said it doesn't have to be our troops. Support uprisings or support an Arab coalition or support someone inside their government taking over. But don't deflect. What do you want to see happen now that we are in it? Like it or not you prefer to leave it again or do it right?LOL "it doesn't have to be our troops". Amazing. Yeah, sure we'll be able to convince some other country to use their troops to go dismantle the IRGC because we decided to start a war with Iran. ffs................................."What do you want to see happen now that we are in it? Like it or not you prefer to leave it again or do it right?"I prefer to not fight an unnecessary war that puts the lives of our military members at risk. I do not believe that starting a ground invasion of Iran is "doing it right". I believe that would be doing it wrong. If the Iranian people want to change their leadership, then it's up to them to rise up and do it. The heavy lifting was just done by us and Israel right? Didn't we just kill Khomeni and a bunch of other leaders? Seems like a good head start.
March 3Mar 3 15 minutes ago, vikas83 said:Well, this isn't surprising. There's no plan, but of course there isn't. Trump simply thinks about the next news cycle; there's no long term strategic thinking of any kind. It's why we removed Maduro but left his government in charge. We killed the Ayatollah, but the zealots will remain in charge and we'll move on to bombing Cuba next month.To be fair he didn't say there was no plan. They asked what is the worst case and he said they put someone in who turns out to be just as bad. I think that's an honest answer and true for many times we've put people in power over the last 100 years.
March 3Mar 3 1 minute ago, Phillyterp85 said:LOL "it doesn't have to be our troops". Amazing. Yeah, sure we'll be able to convince some other country to use their troops to go dismantle the IRGC because we decided to start a war with Iran. ffs................................."What do you want to see happen now that we are in it? Like it or not you prefer to leave it again or do it right?"I prefer to not fight an unnecessary war that puts the lives of our military members at risk. I do not believe that starting a ground invasion of Iran is "doing it right". I believe that would be doing it wrong. If the Iranian people want to change their leadership, then it's up to them to rise up and do it. The heavy lifting was just done by us and Israel right? Didn't we just kill Khomeni and a bunch of other leaders? Seems like a good head start.Right, so them rising up wouldn't be our troops like I said. We agree.
March 3Mar 3 2 hours ago, Frankfurteagle89 said:Good thing we are so beloved in the Middle East. This should be smooth sailing, especially when it’s described as a "Holy War”. At least now we know that killing women and children is fine since it’s being done in the name of god.👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻We are going to create a whole new generation of America hating Islamic fundamentalists.
March 3Mar 3 1 hour ago, Phillyterp85 said:So whose sons and daughters are you willing to sacrifice for this non essential war? Glad to hear you have no apologies about wanting to send other people’s kids to their death fighting a war that isn’t about keeping America free and safe.He was always retarded. Now we know he's retarded and a piece of crap too.
March 3Mar 3 4 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:Right, so them rising up wouldn't be our troops like I said. We agree. LOL no, we don't agree. Not even close to agreeing. You said do whatever it takes to dismantle the IRGC, even it means a ground invasion. I'm saying absolutely NO ground invasion under any circumstance.
March 3Mar 3 9 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:I've said I didn't prefer this over peaceful solutions. There also comes a time when that isn't possible. If they did say we have enough for 11 bombs in negotiations and acted the way they were depicted then it changes things. Wanting/campaigning on no more wars doesn't mean no more balls. If he felt it was necessary after trying other options and hitting them once and giving them another opportunity to change course then I support him.Peaceful solutions from what? This was unprovoked. We only attacked because Israel attacked
March 3Mar 3 Just now, Phillyterp85 said:LOL no, we don't agree. Not even close to agreeing. You said do whatever it takes to dismantle the IRGC, even it means a ground invasion. I'm saying absolutely NO ground invasion under any circumstance.You don't think an uprising like you suggested would do that?
March 3Mar 3 1 minute ago, Mike030270 said:Peaceful solutions from what? This was unprovoked. We only attacked because Israel attackedCool. More blaming the Jews.
March 3Mar 3 7 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:To be fair he didn't say there was no plan. They asked what is the worst case and he said they put someone in who turns out to be just as bad. I think that's an honest answer and true for many times we've put people in power over the last 100 years. Reporter: "What's the end goal in Iran?"Trump: "I made a poop in my diaper" *removes sheet-filled diaper, shows it to reporters* DieHard: "I think that's an honest answer"
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