23 hours ago23 hr 4 minutes ago, mikemack8 said:@HazletonEagle @Diehardfan @Godfather @LamboYou guys all cleaned up and toweled off from last night? Ready to start another productive day?First step toward admitting you were wrong. Recognizing that we are right.
23 hours ago23 hr 2 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:Thats not the only thing that changed. The most important thing that changed is that there is no dominant run game this year to hide Hurts deficiencies and win in spite of him.4-2 beating three playoff teams with the banged up OL which has killed the run game.
23 hours ago23 hr 17 minutes ago, mikemack8 said:@HazletonEagle @Diehardfan @Godfather @LamboYou guys all cleaned up and toweled off from last night? Ready to start another productive day?Ready to stop sucking your boys deek and admit he's been playing like ass?
23 hours ago23 hr 3 minutes ago, Screaminbeagle said:@mattwillBirds 31Viking 27Aj over 120 😀Risky bonus prediction
23 hours ago23 hr 9 hours ago, SkippyX said:It turns out Flacco pulled this one out but he is actually worse than Burrow in 1 score games when his D gives up 23+Burrow is 0.333Flacco is 0.288Bortles is 0.211Hurts is 0.706A stat with no context, that someone scoured box scores to come up with to inflate Hurts. Lets dive in.The first game that falls into arbitrary stat was week 1 of the 2022 season, Eagles 38, Detroit 35.Eagles led this game 38 - 21 at the start of the 4th quarter. Detroit cut the lead to 38 - 28 with 14 minutes left, and then the Eagles went 4 plays, 10 yards and punted.Lions then went 3 and out and punted.Eagles again have the ball, and can grind out the clock, or put points on the board, but go 3 plays, 2 yards and punt.Detroit then marches down and makes it 38 - 35 with 3:51 left in the 4th quarter.The Eagles then run out the clock withMiles Sanders - 3 yardsMiles Sanders - 5 yardsMiles Sanders - 24 yards on 3rd down that gets it to the 2 minute warning.Boston Scott - 1 yardBoston Scott - 8 yards and Detroit has now used their final time out.Boston Scott - no gainHurts - 1 yardKneel down - gameYou are taking this stat, and painting a picture that it was blow for blow, Hurts leads a TD drive, Goff leads a TD drive, its back and forth and the Eagles were the last man standing, when it was anything but.The Eagles survived as Hurts accounted for 14 yards of offense across the Eagles 3 fourth quarter possessions, and the O Line, Sanders and Scott had to man up and take control of the game on the last possession.
23 hours ago23 hr curious on his run defense grade because coverage wise i think he’s been spectacular. Even without seeing this chart.
23 hours ago23 hr 28 minutes ago, mikemack8 said:@HazletonEagle @Diehardfan @Godfather @LamboYou guys all cleaned up and toweled off from last night? Ready to start another productive day?Watch this video, and watch every slant that Jamar Chase catches, then come back and tell us how AJ was not open on a slant while Hurts is throwing an interception vs the Giants.https://www.nfl.com/news/ja-marr-chase-sets-bengals-records-for-catches-and-targets-in-win-over-steelers#:~:text=Chase%20gobbled%20up%2016%20catches,five%20seasons%2C%20per%20NFL%20Research.
23 hours ago23 hr 8 minutes ago, Lambo said:Watch this video, and watch every slant that Jamar Chase catches, then come back and tell us how AJ was not open on a slant while Hurts is throwing an interception vs the Giants.https://www.nfl.com/news/ja-marr-chase-sets-bengals-records-for-catches-and-targets-in-win-over-steelers#:~:text=Chase%20gobbled%20up%2016%20catches,five%20seasons%2C%20per%20NFL%20Research.Wow thanks! Now you watch this videoSpoiler
23 hours ago23 hr 35 minutes ago, mikemack8 said:@HazletonEagle @Diehardfan @Godfather @LamboYou guys all cleaned up and toweled off from last night? Ready to start another productive day?Nah, the highlights on ESPN and X are keeping the what if the Eagles had a real QB like McKee throwing to two of the best WRs in the league going strong another day
23 hours ago23 hr 1 minute ago, mikemack8 said:Wow thanks! Now you watch this videoSpoilerIt is easier to believe 1 yard of separation is not open int he NFL, instead of watching a 40 year old QB demonstrate over and over how open it actually is.
22 hours ago22 hr Chase has 80 targets for the year so far and Brown has 45Even the Bengals know to give it to their best players
22 hours ago22 hr 1 hour ago, Diehardfan said:And yet he diminishes the potential of two of the best WRs in the game.Eagles fans would rather their fantasy teams do well then the team go through their current period of highest level of success in franchise history.
22 hours ago22 hr It's a weird situation. Because with the talent on the roster you expect more passing production, everyone pretty much agrees on that. Yet, they've been winning and Hurts was clutch in the playoffs and won a Super Bowl. There was a time that fans would argue that despite a player performing well, he hasn't won a playoff game or Super Bowl so that was a criticism. Now we have a QB who wins but that's not enough. Hurts always talks about winning matters more and it's a really interesting conversation because winning the game is truly the only thing that matters. The rest is personal accolades and fantasy stats.The argument would be easier if they were losing games, missing the playoffs, etc. because then a lot more fans would be calling for a change at QB. We compare to other QBs around the league...who don't win anything.Hurts isn't going anywhere soon, so they have to coach to his strengths. Siri knows what the offense needs to be and is responsible for selecting the OC and dictating the game plan, and making changes if necessary to do what suits the players he has.
22 hours ago22 hr 37 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:Chase has 80 targets for the year so far and Brown has 45Even the Bengals know to give it to their best playersBengals have scored 136 points in 7 games. The Eagles have scored 142 in 6. Why can't we be more like the Bengals?
22 hours ago22 hr 4 minutes ago, NOTW said:Hurts isn't going anywhere soon, so they have to coach to his strengths. Siri knows what the offense needs to be and is responsible for selecting the OC and dictating the game plan, and making changes if necessary to do what suits the players he has.
22 hours ago22 hr 8 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:Bengals have scored 136 points in 7 games. The Eagles have scored 142 in 6. Why can't we be more like the Bengals?That's your counter to wanting to give the ball to Brown more? Odd
22 hours ago22 hr 6 minutes ago, NOTW said:It's a weird situation. Because with the talent on the roster you expect more passing production, everyone pretty much agrees on that. Yet, they've been winning and Hurts was clutch in the playoffs and won a Super Bowl. There was a time that fans would argue that despite a player performing well, he hasn't won a playoff game or Super Bowl so that was a criticism. Now we have a QB who wins but that's not enough. Hurts always talks about winning matters more and it's a really interesting conversation because winning the game is truly the only thing that matters. The rest is personal accolades and fantasy stats.The argument would be easier if they were losing games, missing the playoffs, etc. because then a lot more fans would be calling for a change at QB. We compare to other QBs around the league...who don't win anything.Hurts isn't going anywhere soon, so they have to coach to his strengths. Siri knows what the offense needs to be and is responsible for selecting the OC and dictating the game plan, and making changes if necessary to do what suits the players he has.Every team, even the most talented, goes through rough patches. Last year the Eagles started 2-2 and everyone was ready to fire Sirianni and then they went on an amazing run and crushed everyone on their way to a title. As I've gotten older and watched the Eagles win two Super Bowls and nearly a 3rd over the past 8 years, I've learned to be a little more patient. The guys in here clamoring for a QB change to someone who we've only seen in preseason or in mop-up duty are the same types of guys who smell their fingers after itching their asscracks.
22 hours ago22 hr 1 minute ago, Mike030270 said:That's your counter to wanting to give the ball to Brown more? OddI think force feeding a disgruntled diva just so so he can try and get his own stats doesn't lead to anything productive with winning. They were 4-0 and he started his complaining and they stsrted to try and force it to him snd have been 0-2 since.
22 hours ago22 hr A lot of people will say, well if the Eagles had (insert the QB trending this week) they would not only win but win by even more!Ok...but we don't have those QBs we have Hurts. They're not getting rid of him. They're not benching him for unproven McKee. The O line, run game and Patullo are bigger problems than Hurts.
21 hours ago21 hr 14 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:Eagles fans would rather their fantasy teams do well then the team go through their current period of highest level of success in franchise history.Hurts isn't doing well this year. Is he the better player all around? Sure. Is he the better QB? No. He needs everything to be perfect around him including a run game that gets him in 3rd and short to do well. He doesn't make fast decisions, he doesn't see the field, he doesn't hit the middle of the field. With the best defense, OL, and a run game he can absolutely do well. So can many QBs, but that isn't this year. On top of that we saw last night what a real QB can do with two of the best WRs in the game. The bottom line is things don't have to be as difficult with this offense as Hurts makes it. Is the OC to blame the most? Sure, he's not able to get the most out of Hurts and sucks all around. That being said a better QB could be doing a lot more with the weapons he has.
21 hours ago21 hr 3 hours ago, wussbasket said:Isn't this exactly what people were saying right before he signed his extension here?Probably. But he's got a super bowl now, so if he has any goals of being a HOF receiver he's gonna need to go to another team or hope we get another QB. Not every player has that goal so it'll be great for us if he doesn't and he stays here
21 hours ago21 hr 11 minutes ago, mikemack8 said:Every team, even the most talented, goes through rough patches. Last year the Eagles started 2-2 and everyone was ready to fire Sirianni and then they went on an amazing run and crushed everyone on their way to a title. As I've gotten older and watched the Eagles win two Super Bowls and nearly a 3rd over the past 8 years, I've learned to be a little more patient.The guys in here clamoring for a QB change to someone who we've only seen in preseason or in mop-up duty are the same types of guys who smell their fingers after itching their asscracks.There is a scene in the movie Goal where the coach is teaching the kid the ball moves faster in the air than making life more difficult on the ground making plays. That's Hurts. He can make plays and looks amazing at times, but he makes life more difficult than it has to be with the weapons around him because he can't see the field, he doesn't progress past one target, and he runs out of the pocket vs stepping up and making a throw. Again, last night we saw what an aging statue can do with two good WRs. The Eagles have those as well and it's time to see what someone who takes what's there, can progress through targets, and makes fast decisions can do because that isn't Hurts.
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