6 hours ago6 hr 3 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:It's going to be interesting to see what they do with Jake Elliott. This is the second year in a row he's struggled at stretches of the season. Like Graham, love him for being clutch in the 2 SB wins. But it's probably time to go. The issue is cutting him is over $6M in dead money. He's also pretty clearly one of the "franchise guys" on the team.What they do with him might be a peek into what their off-season plan is. If they keep him around, it's probably going to be more of the same. If they move on from him, they might feel more of an overhaul is needed than just a tweak here and there.If they eat other money they might just decide to ride it out one more year. You could do better but you could do worse
6 hours ago6 hr 53 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:Maybe theres a point between sucks and average. Hurts belongs there. Below average.I'd say hurts is painfully average, flirting the line with below average when he doesn't run. Yesterday his pocket presence was atrocious, there were a couple plays on the last drive where he bailed on a perfect pocket and Brady called him out on it.
6 hours ago6 hr Just now, LeanMeanGM said:It's going to be interesting to see what they do with Jake Elliott. This is the second year in a row he's struggled at stretches of the season. Like Graham, love him for being clutch in the 2 SB wins. But it's probably time to go. The issue is cutting him is over $6M in dead money. He's also pretty clearly one of the "franchise guys" on the team.What they do with him might be a peek into what their off-season plan is. If they keep him around, it's probably going to be more of the same. If they move on from him, they might feel more of an overhaul is needed than just a tweak here and there.The problem, as you said is the cap hit. Spotrac has us at ~22mm in offseason cap space (based on top 51), and cutting Michael Carter gets that to just under $31mm. Setting aside ~$5.7mm for the draft picks, we are left with $25.2 million. I think we can save ~$7.2mm by extending JD, so that gets you back to $32mm, and Howie will want to carry at least $5mm into the season, so back to $27mm. With that, we need a TE, CB, S and tons of depth (we have less than 40 players under contract next year). Trading AJ before June 1 is basically impossible -- it's ~$20.2mm in an incremental cap hit, and now you need another starting WR and only have ~$7mm in cap space. Even that $6mm hit for Jake is a problem unless you make him a post June 1 cut.We have no cap flexibility to take dead money hits in 2026.
6 hours ago6 hr 47 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:How are him and Vic getting along? Will players respect him?Doesn't matter, he will likely get a HC position.
6 hours ago6 hr If you want to have a CEO coach, you need to have a pipeline in place of young, good offensive minds that you develop. Eagles have sucked at developing offensive coaches and you are seeing it now with the second failed, likely one and done internal promotion. It's easier said than done, but it's possible. McVay and Shanahan while not CEO coaches, have developed coaching talent.
6 hours ago6 hr 8 minutes ago, wussbasket said:Have we been given the fresh ideas line yet?I will never understand the logic of promoting an internal coach to OC that has never called plays while the team is in a SB window. The starting offense only eclipsed 200 yards passing 8 times all season, and only twice did they go over 200 passing and 100 rushing.In case anyone wasn't aware by now that was basically the Eagles' front office gift to Sirianni as a reward for winning the Super Bowl. It gave Sirianni a chance to put in "one of his guys" - better securing his status within the team.Now that it has become what it is - a disaster - it doesn't bode well for either Sirianni or anyone else on his coaching staff, imo.
6 hours ago6 hr 1 minute ago, shlo said:I'd have to imagine that dropping weight and being in better shape could help. Maybe not. But it's something he can control.I have really bad knees, have my whole life, I weigh 155 pounds, I tore up my knee when I was 29 and its never been the same nor has my body.If I went and lost 20 pounds and got shredded my knees would still really hurt because losing weight doesnt re grow cartilage.Sure losing weight can alleviate some pain but again dickerson didnt suck this year because hes fat, his knees dont hurt because hes fat, he sucked and his knees hurt because his knees are chronically destroyed.Ive dealt with bad knees since I was twelve, ive dislocated my knee cap 6 times, 4 times on the right 2 times on the left, my cartilage is minimal at best and once you lose that its gone, losing weight can help alleviate some of the pain of bone on bone friction but losing weight isnt bringing landons knees back.He doesnt move like he used to, he plays stiff and upright has zero explosion left and thats not because hes fat its because hes a broken player with broken knees who like me is probably in constant pain and all I do is type long diatribes on message boards😁
6 hours ago6 hr 1 minute ago, vikas83 said:The problem, as you said is the cap hit. Spotrac has us at ~22mm in offseason cap space (based on top 51), and cutting Michael Carter gets that to just under $31mm. Setting aside ~$5.7mm for the draft picks, we are left with $25.2 million. I think we can save ~$7.2mm by extending JD, so that gets you back to $32mm, and Howie will want to carry at least $5mm into the season, so back to $27mm. With that, we need a TE, CB, S and tons of depth (we have less than 40 players under contract next year). Trading AJ before June 1 is basically impossible -- it's ~$20.2mm in an incremental cap hit, and now you need another starting WR and only have ~$7mm in cap space. Even that $6mm hit for Jake is a problem unless you make him a post June 1 cut.We have no cap flexibility to take dead money hits in 2026.Mend the AJ Brown situation. They are stuck with him.
6 hours ago6 hr 13 minutes ago, AmericanEagle77 said:It's legitimately not even close. I was wondering if maybe it'd be a little elementary but...I'm sorry, it's definitely at least an average scheme from what I saw. Maybe hear me out in 2021 an 2022 when the offense had good passing schemes that were functional and good, Shane Steichen was there. In 2023 when things start we going south (and it did outside of the cardinals game after the 10-1 start— heck passing game was awful in the jets game and they were down their entire secondary)and then their passing game was inconsistent and ranked 30th in 2024. Then not good in 2025.Instead of Siriainni being able to go back to his well, like in 2021 and 2022 after Shane Steichen left, the passing offense has gotten worse. So I could make the argument that once Shane left the passing offense has gotten worse almost each consecutive year. At least in 2024 you could say they were efficient. However, the passing game and the concepts once Shane Steichen left have become stale and predictable over the last 3 years.So we can blame it on Jalen hurts. I have no problem with that. I said in the past, he has flaws and he is limited in what he could do. If he’s not gonna run, it becomes an even bigger problem for this offense. He has his own set of problems that need to be discussed. Because I don’t think you’re ever maximizing AJ Brown, Devonta Smith, goedert, Barkley in the pass game because of his flaws and warts as well. So he’s not absolved from blame in this offensive shitshow.however, Nick Sirianni and the passing offense has not been able to functionally work as a consistent unit since Steichen left and gotten worse over time. I think that’s more damning than anything. You’re watching stuff from 2021 with Steichen. I’d go from 2023 onward after he left. can tell me well that was the only time sirianni was calling plays and the offense looked like that but I would argue from the time he gave up play calling to Shane Steichen until Steichen left the offense got better over time. Since he left it’s gotten worse. It on Jalen, those OCs and your HCAlso, we don’t have the facts to say how much of an influence Steichen was on the game plan when Nick was calling the plays. I can tell you this though when watching the Colts and when they try to use Anthony Richardson early in steichen’s HC career, their was designed very similar similarly to what the Eagles were doing in 2021 and 2022. Meanwhile, since he left in 2023, the Eagles pass concepts and offense has really not looked like that since then. Interesting how that works. It could also be Steichen was a bigger cog in the sirianni system which was kind of like Reich was a bigger cog then people wanted to admit in Doug’s system.
6 hours ago6 hr 52 minutes ago, Lambo said:They also ran when they had to.Herbert is running himself into the hospital. Maye won't be far behind.All that running and they scored less than the Eagles did. Maye deserves some leeway because he's younger but I'm so sick of everyone fawning over Herbert when he's the AFC Dak Prescott. But he's a "real QB" I guess
6 hours ago6 hr I've been feeling this for a while, but a massive shakeup is needed. The defense has carried us for 2 straight years. Our best players on that side of the ball are all-pro level players (Carter, DeJean, Quinyon). That doesn't include above average players in Jordan Davis and Zack Baun. The defense can continue to carry us, BUT will get expensive.As such, we need to get cheaper on offense. I would honestly trade both AJ and Jalen, fire Nick and rebuild the offense with younger, faster talent. Jalen is a player who does not elevate, but you can win with...well, if we're rebuilding on offense that doesn't work. AJ wants to leave, and NOW is the time to sell-high. Nick, well, it's time because you decide to waste this season on your BFF.Give McKee the reigns. Use draft picks on OL, TEs and ONE WR with speed (something we don't have) and build this the right way. Do we take a step back in 2026? Maybe. But we can NOT run it back under any circumstances.
6 hours ago6 hr Just now, RLC said:. But we can NOT run it back under any circumstances.There's next to a zero chance this team is running anything back. This off-season could be as dramatic as the off season after the Chip Kelly era - this is how bad I think the Eagles brass feels about their coaching/personnel at this time. Just a guess but we might see some fireworks this off season.
6 hours ago6 hr 35 minutes ago, Eriv20 said:Need to move up higher and go grab Caleb downsWhy don't we move downs and draft Caleb Higher? Huh? You ever think about that?Sorry I'm struggling this morning
6 hours ago6 hr Just now, Ace Nova said:There's next to a zero chance this team is running anything back. This off-season could be as dramatic as the off season after the Chip Kelly era - this is how bad I think the Eagles brass feels about their coaching/personnel at this time. Just a guess but we might see some fireworks this off season.This is what I want if I’m being honest. There’s no easy way around it. There’s too much bloat on offense. I’m using some expiring contracts on defense as trade bait while trying to retain the key players. It won’t be easy, but it’s needed.
6 hours ago6 hr 14 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:It's going to be interesting to see what they do with Jake Elliott. This is the second year in a row he's struggled at stretches of the season. Like Graham, love him for being clutch in the 2 SB wins. But it's probably time to go. The issue is cutting him is over $6M in dead money. He's also pretty clearly one of the "franchise guys" on the team.What they do with him might be a peek into what their off-season plan is. If they keep him around, it's probably going to be more of the same. If they move on from him, they might feel more of an overhaul is needed than just a tweak here and there.Get the kid from Georgia
6 hours ago6 hr 1 hour ago, HazletonEagle said:Maybe theres a point between sucks and average. Hurts belongs there. Below average.Hurts is a below average passer. In stretches, he sucks as a passer. In others, he can look average to slightly above. But he’s generally settled right in there as a below average passer.His running, even keel, and tush push abilities make him dynamic and bump him up a level…but all of those things took a step back this year and are not things that age well. Running doesn’t just come back to a 28 year old qb who doesn’t want to get hurt. There are so many Hurts defenders (and that’s fair I understand that). But EVERYONE acknowledges that pure passing ain’t his thing. And his lack of running is also indisputable. So we are left with a below average passer that only passes….aka a below average qb.We have a qb problem.
6 hours ago6 hr 6 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:Herbert is running himself into the hospital. Maye won't be far behind.All that running and they scored less than the Eagles did.Maye deserves some leeway because he's younger but I'm so sick of everyone fawning over Herbert when he's the AFC Dak Prescott. But he's a "real QB" I guessMan for man, there is not a player the Chargers have had on offense that you would trade the Eagle at the same position for.
6 hours ago6 hr 1 minute ago, bpac55 said:This is what I want if I’m being honest. There’s no easy way around it. There’s too much bloat on offense. I’m using some expiring contracts on defense as trade bait while trying to retain the key players.It won’t be easy, but it’s needed.Think about it - when was the last time Lurie spoke to a highly controversial player (at the time AJ Brown) and basically told him, "You don't have anything to apologize about".When the owner does that in a public setting for everyone to see - that should be a sign of things to come. Just a guess.
6 hours ago6 hr 1 minute ago, Diehardfan said:Get the kid from GeorgiaUnfortunately, I think he's going back to school - big story yesterday.
6 hours ago6 hr 2 minutes ago, tuffstuff07 said:A bit surprised to see him get head coaching job offers I figured he would be a oc again this coming yearHe has experience as a head coach. The Washington offense wasn't terrible this season despite the injuries to Daniels. Lamar would be a good fit for his scheme.
6 hours ago6 hr 1 minute ago, Lambo said:Man for man, there is not a player the Chargers have had on offense that you would trade the Eagle at the same position for.Maybe we can bring Bechton back. he was miles better than Steen and he could also kick out to tackle. Plus he's only been gone one year so he couldn't have forgot that much
6 hours ago6 hr This team isn't changing much for the 2026 season. They are locked in for the most part and need to ride with what they got. The 2027 off-season is a different story. The Lane Johnson situation is the difficult part. Is he going to play another year? How many games are the Eagles going to have him for? Do they like Cameron Williams enough to be the "full-time" backup, or do they bring someone else in?
6 hours ago6 hr 1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:Maybe hear me out in 2021 an 2022 when the offense had good passing schemes that were functional and good, Shane Steichen was there. In 2023 when things start we going south (and it did outside of the cardinals game after the 10-1 start— heck passing game was awful in the jets game and they were down their entire secondary)and then their passing game was inconsistent and ranked 30th in 2024. Then not good in 2025.Instead of Siani being able to go back to his well, like in 2021 in 2022 after Shane Staton left, the passing offense has gotten worse. So I could make the argument that once Shane Steen left the passing offense has gotten worse almost each consecutive year. At least in 2024 you could say they were efficient. However, the passing game and the concepts once Shane Steichen left have become stale and predictable over the last 3 years.So we can blame it on Jalen hurts. I have no problem with that. I said in the past, he has flaws and he is limited in what he could do. If he’s not gonna run, it becomes an even bigger problem for this offense.however, Nick Sirianni and the passing offense has not been able to functionally work as a consistent unit since Steichen left and gotten worse over time. I think that’s more damning than anything. You’re watching stuff from 2021 with Steichen. I’d go from 2023 onward after he left. can tell me well that was the only time he was calling plays and the offense looked like that but I would argue from the time he gave up play calling to Shane Steichen until Steichen left the offense got better over timeAlso, we don’t have the facts to say how much of an influence Steichen was on the game plan when Nick was calling the plays. I can tell you this though when watching the Colts and when they try to use Anthony Richardson early in steichen’s HC career, their was designed very similar similarly to what the Eagles were doing in 2021 and 2022. Meanwhile, since he left in 2023, the Eagles offense has really not looked like that since then. Interesting how that worksThis kind of feels like the same argument that people made about how Doug was carried by Reich until Reich also flamed out, that was made with very little real proof. Like...he was spending most of his time all year staring at the call sheet. The playbook was still there. You seriously think that he just...magically forgot what concepts are and directed Patullo to remove all of them because he felt like that's the evolution of his offense? And you think that even in 2021 while Sirianni was mentioned to have control of the offense (they talked about just how much control he had actually, and how they really had to push him to give up play calling), he just didn't do anything?I think this is influenced by Hurts, just like has been said more and more. Like I said, something isn't right in that building at all.
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