35 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

Its always yall same whiney bishes…

Wait til after the draft

You don't have to be so eager to get on your knees. The guy gets too cute like with Rodgers. If that offends you too bad. He shouldn't have to use a high pick on safety when a guy was there for 5 million.

1 hour ago, NOTW said:

Fans the last 6 months: Reed isn't very good, let him walk. It's a deep draft class at safety, can draft someone better.

Fans since Reed signed with Texans: Howie WTF are you doing? Sign a free agent, you can't rely on a rookie draft pick!

They'll sign Epps and draft someone. Woolen is an upgrade at CB2, strengthening the secondary overall.

My biggest concern on defense is Edge, which Howie has been working on. Can also draft an Edge.

Epps is JAG and a rookie with Mukuba isn't ideal when again a guy was there for 5 million. Now they have to use a high pick that could have gone to edge or the OL or a good TE in round 2 or 3. Saving one of the first 3 picks is worth that kind of money.

Just now, Diehardfan said:

Epps is a Jag and a rookie with Mukuba isn't ideal when again a guy was there for 5 million. Now they have to use a high pick that could have gone to edge or the OL or a good TE in round 2 or 3.

It’s still all a maybe as to what they’ll do. Last year they bet wrong on Ringo’s development and then the trade for Bennett didn’t work. Adore did eventually hold his own by years end. Safety is still TBD. As I said before we don’t know if Vic liked the 5 mil option

1 hour ago, pgcd3 said:

Still time but this offseason has gone very badly on paper starting with the coaching search onward

Everything about this offseason screams that they don't care about 2026. They're gonna take this season to evaluate hurts and this new offense and gear up for the coop and Q extensions.

7 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

It’s still all a maybe as to what they’ll do. Last year they bet wrong on Ringo’s development and then the trade for Bennett didn’t work. Adore did eventually hold his own by years end. Safety is still TBD. As I said before we don’t know if Vic liked the 5 mil option

Maybe, but I don't see a lot left out there right now. Epps can be fine, but Mukuba is undersized and got hurt. I'd rather have Epps as a backup and not waste a high pick on a safety when they could address OL, DL, or TE in the first 3 picks and have to rely on them getting it right. Those are the kind of "he gets too cute" moves that cost them last year. I'm not asking him to make huge moves, but one of the vets who signed in that price range would have been worth locking the position down and going into the draft being able to focus on other needs or having flexibility vs having to get one. I'm not saying it's a disaster or a bad offseason or that he won't plug the hole between now and camp. It's frustrating though.

Just now, Diehardfan said:

Should really just go be the oilers

19 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

Epps is JAG and a rookie with Mukuba isn't ideal when again a guy was there for 5 million. Now they have to use a high pick that could have gone to edge or the OL or a good TE in round 2 or 3. Saving one of the first 3 picks is worth that kind of money.

As I said, majority of fans said let Reed walk and go with a rookie because it's a strong draft class at safety, and now everyone's saying we can't pair a rookie next to Mukuba. The answer to that is Epps who is cheap, familiar with the team and not a liability out there, plus draft a rookie to develop and hopefully become the starter.

People are also saying don't rely on cheap bargain bin players, and then when some other team signs a cheap bargain bin player they get upset at Howie for not signing that cheap bargain bin player. Too many fans are never happy, hypocritical and flip flop their arguments from day to day.

Annual reminder that signing free agents in March doesn't mean they're gonna be on the team that season or "the answer" and means they're done at a position.

Players signed in March that were cut or traded later

March 2024 the Eagles signed:

• OL Matt Hennessy, released in August.

• Devin White, released in October

• CB Tyler Hall, placed on IR then released

• DT PJ Mustipher, released in August

March 2025 the Eagles signed:

• RB A.J. Dillon - barely played, traded for Tank Bigsby instead

• TE Harrison Bryant - traded in August for Metchie, who was traded for Michael Carter

• LS Charley Hughlett - released in August, re-signed, placed on IR in Sep, cut in Dec

• KR/PR Avery Williams- released in August

• OT Kendall Lamm - released in August

3 hours ago, pgcd3 said:

Come on

EJ is such a FN moron. They aren't going to have two starting safeties who are both under 6'0 and 190 lbs. Common sense. I could see them using Carter as a swiss army knife / depth piece in the secondary the same way they used Maddox towards the end of his time here but as a starter, not happening.

3 hours ago, pgcd3 said:

Wow the Eagles couldn't do this deal. Come on

That is an absolute bargain for Brisker. It is both perplexing and concerning that Howie had such a bad off-season in 2025 and is essentially repeating the same exact game plan in 2026. I could even argue that he did better in 2025 considering he was able to re-sign Baun and at least tried to bring in some guys who ultimately didn't work out (Ojulari, Uche). For all intents and purposes Howie has signed Woolen and done nothing else through the first four days of the off-season.

3 minutes ago, NOTW said:

As I said, majority of fans said let Reed walk and go with a rookie because it's a strong draft class at safety, and now everyone's saying we can't pair a rookie next to Mukuba. The answer to that is Epps who is cheap, familiar with the team and not a liability out there, plus draft a rookie to develop and hopefully become the starter.

People are also saying don't rely on cheap bargain bin players, and then when some other team signs a cheap bargain bin player they get upset at Howie for not signing that cheap bargain bin player. Too many fans are never happy, hypocritical and flip flop their arguments from day to day.

I didn't say either, but I have no problem with them getting a CB or a S in round one. I don't like they are forced into moves if they had good options and he wasn't someone I'd call bargain bin. The people who said let Reed go probably figured they'd keep JP or be able to sign Chubb without the market being as ridiculous as it was. If they wanted to let Reed walk I'm still good with it, but they need to address edge early if they make a trade for Sweat or not. If it is a deep class they need to take advantage of it because the market became that expensive. Suddenly they may use two of their top picks on defense in a draft they were supposed to focus on the offense to get cheaper.

Like I said I want Epps back because Mukuba may not be able to stay healthy being undersized.

Jones is a camp body, some of you are reading into that way too much.

27 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Should really just go be the oilers

Even I could do better. I made some updated Flyers jerseys just using ChatGPT

42 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

Epps is JAG and a rookie with Mukuba isn't ideal when again a guy was there for 5 million. Now they have to use a high pick that could have gone to edge or the OL or a good TE in round 2 or 3. Saving one of the first 3 picks is worth that kind of money.

The problem with Safety isn't even the fact that they don't have a second starter because that is just the tip of the iceberg. There are numerous problems with the position right now. For one thing, Mukuba is a second year player and FAR from a sure thing. His rookie season was very up and down so it's not a sure thing that he will be a quality starter. You obviously have to find out but I sure as heck would want to pair him with a proven starting safety in this league.

Second, there is ZERO depth at the position. Sydney Brown is a horrible football player besides special teams who Vic doesn't want to put on the field. I'm not even sure he should be on the team. That's it, that is all they currently have and I don't want to hear about Michael FN Carter who is 5'10 185 and has never been a starting safety in this league. Pairing him with Mukuba would be massively dumb.

I do think Reed was a little bit overrated and I am perfectly fine with them letting him go despite the fact that he is an ok starter who didn't cost much. What I do have a problem with however is not having a backup plan and there just isn't much left at all on the FA market and going into the draft needing to draft a certain position early is never a good strategy.

2 hours ago, NOTW said:

Maybe Fangio doesn't want these guys.

Also, you complain they're going to be stuck with bargain bin players then complain when other teams sign players on bargain bin deals because Howie should have done that deal...

Brisker wasn't a bargain bin player, he just happened to get signed for a borderline bargain bin price. He is a really good football player who is only 26 and probably on went for that cheap because of a concussion history. He is typically the type of guy Howie loves to take a shot on but for some reason the last two off-seasons his plan is seemingly to lose a bunch of good player and not replace them.

nice

1 minute ago, T-1000 said:

The problem with Safety isn't even the fact that they don't have a second starter because that is just the tip of the iceberg. There are numerous problems with the position right now. For one thing, Mukuba is a second year player and FAR from a sure thing. His rookie season was very up and down so it's not a sure thing that he will be a quality starter. You obviously have to find out but I sure as heck would want to pair him with a proven starting safety in this league.

Second, there is ZERO depth at the position. Sydney Brown is a horrible football player besides special teams who Vic doesn't want to put on the field. I'm not even sure he should be on the team. That's it, that is all they currently have and I don't want to hear about Michael FN Carter who is 5'10 185 and has never been a starting safety in this league. Pairing him with Mukuba would be massively dumb.

I do think Reed was a little bit overrated and I am perfectly fine with them letting him go despite the fact that he is an ok starter who didn't cost much. What I do have a problem with however is not having a backup plan and there just isn't much left at all on the FA market and going into the draft needing to draft a certain position early is never a good strategy.

Agree. On top of him needing to prove himself on the field he needs to prove he can stay on the field. We agree on a lot of other points and there not being much left in FA or being forced into it early. Like I said above it was supposed to be an offensive focused draft to get cheaper.

1 minute ago, ManuManu said:

nice

crap, does this mean we're out on Greenard?

4 minutes ago, T-1000 said:

Brisker wasn't a bargain bin player, he just happened to get signed for a borderline bargain bin price. He is a really good football player who is only 26 and probably on went for that cheap because of a concussion history. He is typically the type of guy Howie loves to take a shot on but for some reason the last two off-seasons his plan is seemingly to lose a bunch of good player and not replace them.

Maybe the coaches simply didn't want him, or ya know these players also choose and maybe didn't want Philly.

If that signing means no Greenard this free agency Fing blows. If not it’s fine. You can’t go from Fing Phillips, Hendrickson, and Chubb to Ebiketie. Not good enough at Edge, sorry.

1 minute ago, ManuManu said:

nice

This year's Ojulari. Hopefully it works out better. I like the player a little bit but he is far from a sure thing and I'm not a big fan of adding another small edge rusher. So much for Crosby or Greenard.

Just now, NOTW said:

Maybe the coaches simply didn't want him, or ya know these players also choose and maybe didn't want Philly.

Possibly, but maybe Howie is making the Rodgers move again thinking Carter is Ringo.

1 minute ago, NOTW said:

Maybe the coaches simply didn't want him, or ya know these players also choose and maybe didn't want Philly.

It's not JUST Brisker though. They have no NFL caliber safeties other than Mukuba who isn't even a sure thing and the market is drying up massively.

1 minute ago, greendestiny27 said:

crap, does this mean we're out on Greenard?

Just now, Sack that QB said:

If that signing means no Greenard this free agency Fing blows. If not it’s fine. You can’t go from Fing Phillips, Hendrickson, and Chubb to Ebiketie. Not good enough at Edge, sorry.

Maybe the price was too high for him.